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reply "Enamex" <enamex+d outlook.com> writes:
Some posters on reddit remarked that D's sales pitch on the 
website is unnecessarily long and unindicative.

I'm only making a suggestion; suggest others or comment on this 
one:

D is a multiparadigm systems programming language with excellent 
static introspection that lets you choose exactly what to pay 
for. <optional>D is a joy to write and easy to maintain: it's 
systems scripting with native performance.</optional>

Turned out too long :/
Aug 31 2015
next sibling parent reply "ponce" <contact gam3sfrommars.fr> writes:
On Monday, 31 August 2015 at 07:38:18 UTC, Enamex wrote:
 Some posters on reddit remarked that D's sales pitch on the 
 website is unnecessarily long and unindicative.

 I'm only making a suggestion; suggest others or comment on this 
 one:

 D is a multiparadigm systems programming language with 
 excellent static introspection that lets you choose exactly 
 what to pay for. <optional>D is a joy to write and easy to 
 maintain: it's systems scripting with native 
 performance.</optional>

 Turned out too long :/
"D is the crack heroin of programming language. The first dose is free."
Aug 31 2015
next sibling parent reply "CraigDillabaugh" <craig.dillabaugh gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 31 August 2015 at 07:47:29 UTC, ponce wrote:
 On Monday, 31 August 2015 at 07:38:18 UTC, Enamex wrote:
 Some posters on reddit remarked that D's sales pitch on the 
 website is unnecessarily long and unindicative.

 I'm only making a suggestion; suggest others or comment on 
 this one:

 D is a multiparadigm systems programming language with 
 excellent static introspection that lets you choose exactly 
 what to pay for. <optional>D is a joy to write and easy to 
 maintain: it's systems scripting with native 
 performance.</optional>

 Turned out too long :/
"D is the crack heroin of programming language. The first dose is free."
This one gets my vote ... however did you mean 'crack cocaine'?
Aug 31 2015
parent "ponce" <contact gam3sfrommars.fr> writes:
On Monday, 31 August 2015 at 13:22:16 UTC, CraigDillabaugh wrote:
 This one gets my vote  ... however did you mean 'crack cocaine'?
Thought that one existed!
Aug 31 2015
prev sibling parent "cym13" <cpicard openmailbox.org> writes:
On Monday, 31 August 2015 at 07:47:29 UTC, ponce wrote:
 On Monday, 31 August 2015 at 07:38:18 UTC, Enamex wrote:
 Some posters on reddit remarked that D's sales pitch on the 
 website is unnecessarily long and unindicative.

 I'm only making a suggestion; suggest others or comment on 
 this one:

 D is a multiparadigm systems programming language with 
 excellent static introspection that lets you choose exactly 
 what to pay for. <optional>D is a joy to write and easy to 
 maintain: it's systems scripting with native 
 performance.</optional>

 Turned out too long :/
"D is the crack heroin of programming language. The first dose is free."
I like the idea but find it a bit bold... Maybe something in the line of: “Efficiency, expressivity, the first dose is free.” (which even silently rhymes with “D” which is good from a advertising point of view)
Aug 31 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "qznc" <qznc web.de> writes:
On Monday, 31 August 2015 at 07:38:18 UTC, Enamex wrote:
 Some posters on reddit remarked that D's sales pitch on the 
 website is unnecessarily long and unindicative.

 I'm only making a suggestion; suggest others or comment on this 
 one:

 D is a multiparadigm systems programming language with 
 excellent static introspection that lets you choose exactly 
 what to pay for. <optional>D is a joy to write and easy to 
 maintain: it's systems scripting with native 
 performance.</optional>

 Turned out too long :/
The short one is "Modern convenience. Modeling power. Native efficiency." I agree that "static introspection" should be mentioned in some form.
Aug 31 2015
parent "cym13" <cpicard openmailbox.orgk> writes:
On Monday, 31 August 2015 at 07:48:58 UTC, qznc wrote:
 On Monday, 31 August 2015 at 07:38:18 UTC, Enamex wrote:
 Some posters on reddit remarked that D's sales pitch on the 
 website is unnecessarily long and unindicative.

 I'm only making a suggestion; suggest others or comment on 
 this one:

 D is a multiparadigm systems programming language with 
 excellent static introspection that lets you choose exactly 
 what to pay for. <optional>D is a joy to write and easy to 
 maintain: it's systems scripting with native 
 performance.</optional>

 Turned out too long :/
The short one is "Modern convenience. Modeling power. Native efficiency." I agree that "static introspection" should be mentioned in some form.
Maybe something like "Low level performance through High level introspection"?
Aug 31 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "wobbles" <grogan.colin gmail.com> writes:
I'd remove the "joy to write and easy to maintain" bit. That's 
personal opinion.

Could use the "Systems scripting with native performance" as a 
tag line though. It's nice!

My, slightly altered, version:
D is a multiparadigm systems programming language with deep 
static introspection that lets you choose exactly what to pay for.

Systems scripting.
Native performance.
Aug 31 2015
next sibling parent "Enamex" <enamex+d outlook.com> writes:
On Monday, 31 August 2015 at 07:57:46 UTC, wobbles wrote:
 I'd remove the "joy to write and easy to maintain" bit. That's 
 personal opinion.

 Could use the "Systems scripting with native performance" as a 
 tag line though. It's nice!

 My, slightly altered, version:
     D is a multiparadigm systems programming language with deep
     static introspection that lets you choose exactly what to 
 pay
     for.

     Systems scripting.
     Native performance.
I'm somewhat boring in public but anyway, I'm voting for this ;)
Sep 01 2015
prev sibling parent "Vladimir Panteleev" <thecybershadow.lists gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 31 August 2015 at 07:57:46 UTC, wobbles wrote:
 that lets you choose exactly what to pay for.
This would be false advertising at this point.
Sep 01 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
On Mon, 2015-08-31 at 07:38 +0000, Enamex via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 Some posters on reddit remarked that D's sales pitch on the 
 website is unnecessarily long and unindicative.
 
 I'm only making a suggestion; suggest others or comment on this 
 one:
 
 D is a multiparadigm systems programming language with excellent 
 static introspection that lets you choose exactly what to pay 
 for. <optional>D is a joy to write and easy to maintain: it's 
 systems scripting with native performance.</optional>
 
 Turned out too long :/
Seems like the sound byte has become the "we can't read that sentence, it is too long, and contains insufficient mispelt words". One does wonder at the attention span of the post-texting generation, seems like about 3ms. The human race is doomed. -- Russel. ============================================================================= Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:russel.winder ekiga.net 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: russel winder.org.uk London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder
Aug 31 2015
parent reply =?UTF-8?B?QWxpIMOHZWhyZWxp?= <acehreli yahoo.com> writes:
On 08/31/2015 01:09 AM, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote:

 Seems like the sound byte has become the "we can't read that sentence,
 it is too long, and contains insufficient mispelt words". One does
 wonder at the attention span of the post-texting generation, seems
 like about 3ms. The human race is doomed.
That paragraph sounded interesting at first but tl;dr. :p Ali
Aug 31 2015
parent "welkam" <wwwelkam gmail.com> writes:
"Are you tired of waiting?"
Sep 01 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent "Adam D. Ruppe" <destructionator gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 31 August 2015 at 07:38:18 UTC, Enamex wrote:
 Turned out too long :/
"D rox."
Aug 31 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent "Anthony Goins" <neontotem gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 31 August 2015 at 07:38:18 UTC, Enamex wrote:
 Some posters on reddit remarked that D's sales pitch on the 
 website is unnecessarily long and unindicative.

 I'm only making a suggestion; suggest others or comment on this 
 one:

 D is a multiparadigm systems programming language with 
 excellent static introspection that lets you choose exactly 
 what to pay for. <optional>D is a joy to write and easy to 
 maintain: it's systems scripting with native 
 performance.</optional>

 Turned out too long :/
8) omg D ftw ;)
Aug 31 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent "Xinok" <xinok live.com> writes:
On Monday, 31 August 2015 at 07:38:18 UTC, Enamex wrote:
 Some posters on reddit remarked that D's sales pitch on the 
 website is unnecessarily long and unindicative...
I used to suffer from long compile times, poor move semantics, and undefined behavior. Then my doctor told me about D... Side effects may include satisfaction, enjoyment, too much free time, ... D is not for everyone. Do not use D if you are an incessant fanboy, ideological bigot, ...
Sep 01 2015
prev sibling parent reply "data man" <datamanrb gmail.com> writes:
A deficient in vitamin D causes a softening of the brains.
Sep 01 2015
next sibling parent reply Dmitry Olshansky <dmitry.olsh gmail.com> writes:
On 01-Sep-2015 22:00, data man wrote:
 A deficient in vitamin D causes a softening of the brains.
My favorite so far ;) -- Dmitry Olshansky
Sep 01 2015
parent Daniel Kozak via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
Dne 1.9.2015 v 21:13 Dmitry Olshansky via Digitalmars-d napsal(a):
 On 01-Sep-2015 22:00, data man wrote:
 A deficient in vitamin D causes a softening of the brains.
My favorite so far ;)
Sames here :)
Sep 01 2015
prev sibling parent reply Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
On Tue, 2015-09-01 at 19:00 +0000, data man via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 A deficient in vitamin D causes a softening of the brains.
This is not quite as funny as it might sound, it is not the brain that is the issue, it is bones and cancer that are related issues in vitamin D deficiency. I am not a fan of "political correctness", and maybe I am being over -sensitive for various reasons, but I think we should choose our comedy lines very carefully. Comments in emails are one thing, no problem basically, the issue arises when a community/product uses a line that is less than constructive.=20 --=20 Russel. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:russel.winder ekiga.n= et 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: russel winder.org.uk London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder
Sep 01 2015
parent reply "Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQi?= writes:
On Tuesday, 1 September 2015 at 20:14:03 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
 I am not a fan of "political correctness", and maybe I am being 
 over -sensitive for various reasons, but I think we should 
 choose our comedy lines very carefully.
I guess that rules out all D-cup jokes...
Sep 01 2015
parent reply "Andy Smith" <andyrsmith googlemail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 1 September 2015 at 20:35:52 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad 
wrote:
 On Tuesday, 1 September 2015 at 20:14:03 UTC, Russel Winder 
 wrote:
 I am not a fan of "political correctness", and maybe I am 
 being over -sensitive for various reasons, but I think we 
 should choose our comedy lines very carefully.
I guess that rules out all D-cup jokes...
... and with that fantastically witty comment I guess many potential female D developers have ruled themselves out... Great. A.
Sep 01 2015
next sibling parent "Ola Fosheim Grostad" <ola.fosheim.grostad+dlang gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 2 September 2015 at 01:09:41 UTC, Andy Smith wrote:
 ... and with that fantastically witty comment I guess many 
 potential female D developers have ruled themselves out...
"Women love D". There. Now they feel included.
Sep 01 2015
prev sibling parent reply "Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQi?= writes:
On Wednesday, 2 September 2015 at 01:09:41 UTC, Andy Smith wrote:
 ... and with that fantastically witty comment I guess many 
 potential female D developers have ruled themselves out...
(I hate myself when I bite trolling, but in case you are serious; be careful with that patronizing attitude around norwegian women, not all of them take kindly to men who suggest that they are incapable of distinguishing between a sexist comment and a self-deprecating comment making fun of male culture, or that they are incapable of taking a joke... There is a fine line between being chivalrous and suggesting that women aren't capable of standing up for themselves. Just saying. It can backfire...)
Sep 02 2015
parent reply Andy Smith <andyrsmith googlemail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 2 September 2015 at 10:42:05 UTC, Ola Fosheim 
Grøstad wrote:
 On Wednesday, 2 September 2015 at 01:09:41 UTC, Andy Smith 
 wrote:
 ... and with that fantastically witty comment I guess many 
 potential female D developers have ruled themselves out...
(I hate myself when I bite trolling, but in case you are serious; be careful with that patronizing attitude around norwegian women, not all of them take kindly to men who suggest that they are incapable of distinguishing between a sexist comment and a self-deprecating comment making fun of male culture, or that they are incapable of taking a joke... There is a fine line between being chivalrous and suggesting that women aren't capable of standing up for themselves. Just saying. It can backfire...)
Hi Ola, I wasn't in the greatest of moods when I wrote that comment so I'm sorry for the tone of that comment. Looking back a few weeks later I can see it wasn't a particularly constructive comment so I apologize! I like to think of myself as being a wee bit classier than that which is probably why I've taken a while to respond. Just to clarify, I honestly wasn't trolling. Chivalry is not really on my radar either way, and being from the North East coast of Scotland I've learned not to mess with your fellow Norwegians (of either gender :-) ) *However* at the risk of sounding like a complete 'PC' prude. I feel (very respectfully!) that comments such as the 'D-cup' one should be left out of the public D fora. I'm currently not in Norway (nor Scotland) but working for a U.S. based firm, where the humour certainly doesn't translate that well. Cheers, A.
Sep 17 2015
parent Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQ=?= writes:
On Thursday, 17 September 2015 at 23:39:50 UTC, Andy Smith wrote:
 weeks later I can see it wasn't a particularly constructive 
 comment so I apologize! I like to think of myself as being a 
 wee bit classier than that which is probably why I've taken a 
 while to respond.
No need to apologize. The british class system was the point of my comment. Russel said he was "liberal". When a british person says he is "liberal" it tells me nothing, except it most certainly isn't "scandinavian liberal". I'd have to figure out what parts of the british class system he associates himself with to give it some kind of meaning. British humour seems to go all the way from rough working class humor to Alan Carr/Russel Brand to stiff upper lip humor. What kind of humor is acceptable in "liberal" Britain? Is there a norm?
 Just to clarify, I honestly wasn't trolling. Chivalry is not 
 really on my radar either way, and being from the North East 
 coast of Scotland I've learned not to mess with your fellow 
 Norwegians (of either gender :-) )
Neh, I think most like some chivalry, but then there are the ones that think your are hitting on them or that will get annoyed if you open the door for them. I've noticed it helps with grey beard... "clueless sweet old man that tries to be helpful" seems to work out.
 *However* at the risk of sounding like a complete 'PC' prude. I 
 feel (very respectfully!) that comments such as the 'D-cup' one 
 should be left out of the public D fora. I'm currently not in 
 Norway (nor Scotland) but working for a U.S. based firm, where 
 the humour certainly doesn't translate that well.
I am very much opposed to the banning of words. It makes for a very shallow understanding of what is discriminating and not. It just moves the negatives to a level where you cannot address it. If one cannot point out that one shouldn't make a particular type of joke, because the mere acknowledgment that such jokes exists is problematic then it goes too far IMO. What annoyed me was that you implied that I enjoy D-cup jokes or thought we should be making them. I don't. For those to be funny you have to view breasts as taboo or think that big breasts deserve some kind of special status or make women more appealing. I don't. But I've noticed that they tend to come up regularly in nerdy english-speaking forums, so I simply wondered what it actually means to be "liberal" when it comes to humour. Apparently bras are too much to be "english liberal", whatever that means...
Sep 18 2015