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reply "Joakim" <dlang joakim.fea.st> writes:
I just stumbled across this recent Rust blog post where they laid 
out their vision for the rest of the year, thought it was very 
well done, strategic and specific:

http://blog.rust-lang.org/2015/08/14/Next-year.html

D really needs something like that: I'm hoping the next vision 
statement will at least move in that direction, ie more concrete. 
  I've been asking for a list of priorities from the core team, 
say a list of bugzilla issues that they think are important, but 
at least higher-level specifics like that would be useful.  It 
might help to reach out to more of the core team to write the 
next one, as Walter and Andrei may not be keeping track of all 
the initiatives that are underway.  I realize D development is 
likely more unplanned, but no reason we can't collect some common 
medium-term goals in one place.

The recent use of trello for short-term planning appears to have 
been a great move:

https://trello.com/b/XoFjxiqG/active

Thanks to Martin and others who spearheaded that effort.
Aug 31 2015
parent reply "qznc" <qznc web.de> writes:
On Monday, 31 August 2015 at 08:31:26 UTC, Joakim wrote:
 I just stumbled across this recent Rust blog post where they 
 laid out their vision for the rest of the year, thought it was 
 very well done, strategic and specific:

 http://blog.rust-lang.org/2015/08/14/Next-year.html

 D really needs something like that: I'm hoping the next vision 
 statement will at least move in that direction, ie more 
 concrete.
  I've been asking for a list of priorities from the core team, 
 say a list of bugzilla issues that they think are important, 
 but at least higher-level specifics like that would be useful.  
 It might help to reach out to more of the core team to write 
 the next one, as Walter and Andrei may not be keeping track of 
 all the initiatives that are underway.  I realize D development 
 is likely more unplanned, but no reason we can't collect some 
 common medium-term goals in one place.
Some visions for 2016 I guess: * D Foundation * ddmd * std.allocator (important since various other Phobos additions wait for it) * ARM/mobile support It is more of a communication issue. There is no official place for news (like http://blog.rust-lang.org/). Andrei is kind of the spokesperson, but I'm not sure if he even wants to do that? Maybe a more community based vision process would be an idea? For example, have a special session at DConf, where you put some Etherpad on the screen and write a vision statement until next DConf together. (I have never been able to attend, so no idea if this is feasible)
Aug 31 2015
parent reply "Nemanja Boric" <4burgos gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 31 August 2015 at 10:47:12 UTC, qznc wrote:
 On Monday, 31 August 2015 at 08:31:26 UTC, Joakim wrote:
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Some visions for 2016 I guess: * D Foundation * ddmd * std.allocator (important since various other Phobos additions wait for it) * ARM/mobile support It is more of a communication issue. There is no official place for news (like http://blog.rust-lang.org/). Andrei is kind of the spokesperson, but I'm not sure if he even wants to do that? Maybe a more community based vision process would be an idea? For example, have a special session at DConf, where you put some Etherpad on the screen and write a vision statement until next DConf together. (I have never been able to attend, so no idea if this is feasible)
http://forum.dlang.org/thread/majurl$2457$1 digitalmars.com
Aug 31 2015
parent "qznc" <qznc web.de> writes:
On Monday, 31 August 2015 at 11:26:57 UTC, Nemanja Boric wrote:
 On Monday, 31 August 2015 at 10:47:12 UTC, qznc wrote:
 On Monday, 31 August 2015 at 08:31:26 UTC, Joakim wrote:
 [...]
Some visions for 2016 I guess: * D Foundation * ddmd * std.allocator (important since various other Phobos additions wait for it) * ARM/mobile support It is more of a communication issue. There is no official place for news (like http://blog.rust-lang.org/). Andrei is kind of the spokesperson, but I'm not sure if he even wants to do that? Maybe a more community based vision process would be an idea? For example, have a special session at DConf, where you put some Etherpad on the screen and write a vision statement until next DConf together. (I have never been able to attend, so no idea if this is feasible)
http://forum.dlang.org/thread/majurl$2457$1 digitalmars.com
Good point: http://wiki.dlang.org/Vision/2015H1 "It is revised every six months (January and July of every year)." So they already missed the first revision. There is no 2015H2. On the other hand, all items still seem relevant.
Aug 31 2015