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c++.chat - Outlook Express problem remains...

reply "Rajiv Bhagwat" <dataflow vsnl.com> writes:
It is becoming annoying to click and check each NG for newer messages, as
the OE continues to display wrong 'unread messages' on the DigitalMars news
server.

Consider c++.stl.hp group ... this has no messages inside, still the
newsreader shows '16'. It reappears even after 'catching up' - this means it
is sent by the server. Even after considering the fact that OE might have a
goofup in its logic, why should the server send this number '16'? This
indicates that the message pruning and reindexing on the server also has a
goofup....

How about checking the server and ensuring that it does not send incorrect
info to OE? In the worst case restore the unpruned messages??

- Rajiv
Nov 27 2003
parent reply Cesar Rabak <csrabak ig.com.br> writes:
FWIW this behaviour is the same for the Netscape 7.0 newsreader. . .


Rajiv Bhagwat escreveu:
 It is becoming annoying to click and check each NG for newer messages, as
 the OE continues to display wrong 'unread messages' on the DigitalMars news
 server.
 
 Consider c++.stl.hp group ... this has no messages inside, still the
 newsreader shows '16'. It reappears even after 'catching up' - this means it
 is sent by the server. Even after considering the fact that OE might have a
 goofup in its logic, why should the server send this number '16'? This
 indicates that the message pruning and reindexing on the server also has a
 goofup....
 
 How about checking the server and ensuring that it does not send incorrect
 info to OE? In the worst case restore the unpruned messages??
 
 - Rajiv
 
 
-- Cesar Rabak GNU/Linux User 52247. Get counted: http://counter.li.org/
Nov 28 2003
parent reply "Matthew Wilson" <matthew.hat stlsoft.dot.org> writes:
It's worth a lot. Jan has been telling us that this is purely an artefact of
Outlook or Outlook Express.

I'd very much welcome a resolution to this, since it is very tiresome to go
through the process that Rajiv describes.

btw, has anyone else noticed a dramatic drop in newsgroup postings since
this problem's been present? I wonder what the stats are on it? It can't be
good for Digital Mars commercially ...

:(

Matthew


 FWIW this behaviour is the same for the Netscape 7.0 newsreader. . .


 Rajiv Bhagwat escreveu:
 It is becoming annoying to click and check each NG for newer messages,
as
 the OE continues to display wrong 'unread messages' on the DigitalMars
news
 server.

 Consider c++.stl.hp group ... this has no messages inside, still the
 newsreader shows '16'. It reappears even after 'catching up' - this
means it
 is sent by the server. Even after considering the fact that OE might
have a
 goofup in its logic, why should the server send this number '16'? This
 indicates that the message pruning and reindexing on the server also has
a
 goofup....

 How about checking the server and ensuring that it does not send
incorrect
 info to OE? In the worst case restore the unpruned messages??

 - Rajiv
-- Cesar Rabak GNU/Linux User 52247. Get counted: http://counter.li.org/
Nov 30 2003
next sibling parent "Rajiv Bhagwat" <dataflow vsnl.com> writes:
We are well aware of the wonderful support Jan has been providing for these
newsgroups, but I guess he is simply unaware of the large number of people
affected and annoyed by this.
- Rajiv


"Matthew Wilson" <matthew.hat stlsoft.dot.org> wrote in message
news:bqeh21$2foc$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 It's worth a lot. Jan has been telling us that this is purely an artefact
of
 Outlook or Outlook Express.

 I'd very much welcome a resolution to this, since it is very tiresome to
go
 through the process that Rajiv describes.

 btw, has anyone else noticed a dramatic drop in newsgroup postings since
 this problem's been present? I wonder what the stats are on it? It can't
be
 good for Digital Mars commercially ...

 :(

 Matthew


 FWIW this behaviour is the same for the Netscape 7.0 newsreader. . .


 Rajiv Bhagwat escreveu:
 It is becoming annoying to click and check each NG for newer messages,
as
 the OE continues to display wrong 'unread messages' on the DigitalMars
news
 server.

 Consider c++.stl.hp group ... this has no messages inside, still the
 newsreader shows '16'. It reappears even after 'catching up' - this
means it
 is sent by the server. Even after considering the fact that OE might
have a
 goofup in its logic, why should the server send this number '16'? This
 indicates that the message pruning and reindexing on the server also
has
 a
 goofup....

 How about checking the server and ensuring that it does not send
incorrect
 info to OE? In the worst case restore the unpruned messages??

 - Rajiv
-- Cesar Rabak GNU/Linux User 52247. Get counted: http://counter.li.org/
Nov 30 2003
prev sibling next sibling parent Jan Knepper <jan smartsoft.us> writes:
Matthew Wilson wrote:
 It's worth a lot. Jan has been telling us that this is purely an artefact of
 Outlook or Outlook Express.
Well, that is the only news reader I have seen the problems with. I have been searching on how to reset the articles counts in INN, but have not find a conclusive answer.
 I'd very much welcome a resolution to this, since it is very tiresome to go
 through the process that Rajiv describes.
Write M$
 btw, has anyone else noticed a dramatic drop in newsgroup postings since
 this problem's been present? I wonder what the stats are on it? It can't be
 good for Digital Mars commercially ...
I have not noticed a dramatic drop in newsgroup postings. In the past there always have been days without any postings. Jan
Dec 01 2003
prev sibling parent "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> writes:
"Matthew Wilson" <matthew.hat stlsoft.dot.org> wrote in message
news:bqeh21$2foc$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 btw, has anyone else noticed a dramatic drop in newsgroup postings since
 this problem's been present? I wonder what the stats are on it? It can't
be
 good for Digital Mars commercially ...
I just saw 50 new messages appear in the D group in the space of 3 hours. I'm never going to catch up!
Dec 01 2003