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reply "Phil Deets" <pjdeets2 gmail.com> writes:
Hi, I'm new to D and am mostly interested in D2. Is there a Windows IDE  
with support for D2 debugging, building, and basic code navigation (such  
as go to definition)? I've been trying a couple different IDEs, but most  
seem to be focused towards D1. Another nice to have "feature" would be  
support for keeping everything in a directory with spaces. I put feature  
in quotes because I consider it a bug if it does not support that.

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Sep 29 2009
next sibling parent reply Jeremie Pelletier <jeremiep gmail.com> writes:
Phil Deets wrote:

 Hi, I'm new to D and am mostly interested in D2. Is there a Windows IDE 
 with support for D2 debugging, building, and basic code navigation (such 
 as go to definition)? I've been trying a couple different IDEs, but most 
 seem to be focused towards D1. Another nice to have "feature" would be 
 support for keeping everything in a directory with spaces. I put feature 
 in quotes because I consider it a bug if it does not support that.
 


I have yet to find such an IDE on windows, I use poseidon for its simple 
project manager and syntax highlighting (I had to add the latest D2 
keywords manually), but it has no semantics analysis and the ddbg 
support is half broken so I debug with windbg, however its very light 
and very fast.

I hear Descent for Eclipse is getting support for D2 so you might want 
to start looking there, it does semantics analysis but Eclipse is too 
heavy an IDE for my tastes. I can't tell if it has jump to definition.

Jeremie
Sep 29 2009
parent reply "Phil Deets" <pjdeets2 gmail.com> writes:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:09:44 -0500, Jeremie Pelletier <jeremiep gmail.com>  
wrote:


 Phil Deets wrote:

 Hi, I'm new to D and am mostly interested in D2. Is there a Windows IDE  
 with support for D2 debugging, building, and basic code navigation  
 (such as go to definition)? I've been trying a couple different IDEs,  
 but most seem to be focused towards D1. Another nice to have "feature"  
 would be support for keeping everything in a directory with spaces. I  
 put feature in quotes because I consider it a bug if it does not  
 support that.


 I have yet to find such an IDE on windows, I use poseidon for its simple  
 project manager and syntax highlighting (I had to add the latest D2  
 keywords manually), but it has no semantics analysis and the ddbg  
 support is half broken so I debug with windbg, however its very light  
 and very fast.

 I hear Descent for Eclipse is getting support for D2 so you might want  
 to start looking there, it does semantics analysis but Eclipse is too  
 heavy an IDE for my tastes. I can't tell if it has jump to definition.

 Jeremie


I tried Descent, but it didn't work well at all with my D2 program. It  
also didn't support building. I'll look into Poseidon. Thanks.

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Sep 29 2009
next sibling parent reply "Saaa" <empty needmail.com> writes:
Phil Deets wrote

 I tried Descent, but it didn't work well at all with my D2 program. It 
 also didn't support building. I'll look into Poseidon. Thanks.


What exactly do you expect from supporting building?
I use descent to build my project by using the external tool setup shown 
here:
http://www.dsource.org/projects/descent/wiki/CompilingPrograms
Sep 30 2009
parent "Phil Deets" <pjdeets2 gmail.com> writes:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:46:12 -0500, Saaa <empty needmail.com> wrote:


 Phil Deets wrote

 I tried Descent, but it didn't work well at all with my D2 program. It
 also didn't support building. I'll look into Poseidon. Thanks.


 What exactly do you expect from supporting building?
 I use descent to build my project by using the external tool setup shown
 here:
 http://www.dsource.org/projects/descent/wiki/CompilingPrograms


Well, I would like to just give it my dmd path and have it just work. I  
haven't managed to get rebuild to work yet. I think it has major problems  
with directories with spaces, and I do all my work in a folder within my  
user profile on Windows XP. This directory has spaces in it.

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Sep 30 2009
prev sibling parent reply Trass3r <mrmocool gmx.de> writes:
Phil Deets schrieb:

 I tried Descent, but it didn't work well at all with my D2 program. It 
 also didn't support building. I'll look into Poseidon. Thanks.
 


D2 support isn't that good in Descent yet.
Building is supported by using the external tools feature, though you 
should really use xfBuild, dsss totally fails for me when it comes to D2.
Sep 30 2009
next sibling parent Ary Borenszweig <ary esperanto.org.ar> writes:
Trass3r wrote:

 Phil Deets schrieb:

 I tried Descent, but it didn't work well at all with my D2 program. It 
 also didn't support building. I'll look into Poseidon. Thanks.


 
 D2 support isn't that good in Descent yet.


Exactly. I think the parser is ported up to 2.030 but I didn't test it a 
lot and now I don't think I'll touch descent for at least three months.
Sep 30 2009
prev sibling parent reply "Phil Deets" <pjdeets2 gmail.com> writes:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:01:04 -0500, Trass3r <mrmocool gmx.de> wrote:


 Phil Deets schrieb:

 I tried Descent, but it didn't work well at all with my D2 program. It  
 also didn't support building. I'll look into Poseidon. Thanks.


 D2 support isn't that good in Descent yet.
 Building is supported by using the external tools feature, though you  
 should really use xfBuild, dsss totally fails for me when it comes to D2.


I had never heard of xfBuild. I'll look into it. It looks good based on a  
brief look at their website.

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Sep 30 2009
next sibling parent Trass3r <mrmocool gmx.de> writes:
Phil Deets schrieb:

 I had never heard of xfBuild. I'll look into it. It looks good based on 
 a brief look at their website.
 


Give it a try. It's much better than rebuild.
Though not yet as easily configurable as dsss.
Sep 30 2009
prev sibling parent reply "Phil Deets" <pjdeets2 gmail.com> writes:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:49:33 -0500, Phil Deets <pjdeets2 gmail.com> wrote:


 On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:01:04 -0500, Trass3r <mrmocool gmx.de> wrote:


 Phil Deets schrieb:

 I tried Descent, but it didn't work well at all with my D2 program. It  
 also didn't support building. I'll look into Poseidon. Thanks.


 D2 support isn't that good in Descent yet.
 Building is supported by using the external tools feature, though you  
 should really use xfBuild, dsss totally fails for me when it comes to  
 D2.


 I had never heard of xfBuild. I'll look into it. It looks good based on  
 a brief look at their website.


Wow, my first impressions of using xfBuild aren't good. I gave my thoughts  
and my cmd session below. First, I couldn't find any documentation so I  
tried a -? switch.

========
C:\Documents and Settings\Phil Deets\My Documents\Tech\Projects\D\D  
Test>xfbuild
  -?
object.Exception: At least one MODULE needs to be specified, see +help
----------------
[  429045]       0+0   tango.core.stacktrace.WinStackTrace.winAddrBacktrace
                          0+87413 :0
[  424c39]       0+0    
tango.core.stacktrace.StackTrace.defaultAddrBacktrace
                          0+69993 :0
[  406c9d]       0+0    
xf.utils.Profiler.__T7profileVG4aa4_6d61696eZ.profile!(vo
id).profile              0+9 ..\utils\Profiler.d:121
[  4022aa]       0+0   __Dmain
                          0+9 Main.d:107
[  42ba67]       0+0   _main
                          0+98199 :0
[  4374e0]       0+0   _mainCRTStartup
                          0+145936 :0
[7c817074]       0+0   ???
                             0+2084582820 :0
========

Seems strange that caused an exceptions, but OK, so it mentions +help.  
I'll try that.

========
C:\Documents and Settings\Phil Deets\My Documents\Tech\Projects\D\D  
Test>xfbuild
  +help
tango.core.Exception.IOException: .deps :: The volume for a file has been  
extern
ally altered so that the opened file is no longer valid.
----------------
[  429045]       0+0   tango.core.stacktrace.WinStackTrace.winAddrBacktrace
                          0+87413 :0
[  424c39]       0+0    
tango.core.stacktrace.StackTrace.defaultAddrBacktrace
                          0+69993 :0
[  40cdb0]       0+0   xfbuild.BuildTask.BuildTask._ctor
                          0+5 BuildTask.d:44
[  40dbbd]       0+0    
xf.utils.Profiler.__T7profileVG18aa18_4275696c645461736b2
e7265616444657073Z.profile!(void).profile  0+9 ..\utils\Profiler.d:121
[  40cd94]       0+0   xfbuild.BuildTask.BuildTask._ctor
                          0+10 BuildTask.d:43
[  402c24]       0+0   xfbuild.Main.main.__dgliteral1
                          0+35 Main.d:262
[  406c9d]       0+0    
xf.utils.Profiler.__T7profileVG4aa4_6d61696eZ.profile!(vo
id).profile              0+9 ..\utils\Profiler.d:121
[  4022aa]       0+0   __Dmain
                          0+9 Main.d:107
[  42ba67]       0+0   _main
                          0+98199 :0
[  4374e0]       0+0   _mainCRTStartup
                          0+145936 :0
[7c817074]       0+0   ???
                             0+2084582820 :0
========

Another exception. Maybe I should just not use a switch.

========
C:\Documents and Settings\Phil Deets\My Documents\Tech\Projects\D\D  
Test>xfbuild

xfBuild 0.4 :: Copyright (C) 2009 Team0xf

Usage:
         xfbuild [--help]
         xfbuild [ROOT | OPTION | COMPILER OPTION]...

         Track dependencies and their changes of one or more modules,  
compile the
m
         with COMPILER OPTION(s) and link all objects into OUTPUT [see  
OPTION(s)]
.

ROOT:
         String ended with either ".d" or "/" indicating a module
         or a directory of modules to be compiled, respectively.

         OPTION(s) are prefixed by "+".
         COMPILER OPTION(s) are anything that is not OPTION(s) or ROOT(s).

Recognized OPTION(s):
         +xPACKAGE    Don't compile any modules within the package
         +full        Perform a full build
         +clean       Remove object files
         +redep       Remove the dependency file
         +v           Print the compilation commands
         +h           Manage headers for faster compilation
         +profile     Dump profiling info at the end
         +modLimitNUM Compile max NUM modules at a time
         +DDEPS       Put the resulting dependencies into DEPS [default:  
.deps]
         +OOBJS       Put compiled objects into OBJS [default: .objs]
         +q           Use -oq when compiling (only supported by ldc)
         +noop        Don't use -op when compiling
         +nolink      Don't link
         +oOUTPUT     Link objects into the resulting binary OUTPUT
         +cCOMPILER   Use the D Compiler COMPILER [default: dmd]
         +rmo         Reverse Module Order (when compiling - might uncrash  
OPTLIN
K)

Environment Variables:
         XFBUILDFLAGS You can put any option from above into that variable
                        Note: Keep in mind that command line options  
override
                              those
         D_COMPILER   The D Compiler to use [default: dmd]
                        Note: XFBUILDFLAGS and command line options override
                              this
========

That worked. Now I want everything in the pd directory to be compiled. It  
looks like xfbuild pd/ should do the trick according to what I just read.

========
C:\Documents and Settings\Phil Deets\My Documents\Tech\Projects\D\D  
Test>xfbuild
  pd/
tango.core.Exception.IOException: .deps :: The volume for a file has been  
extern
ally altered so that the opened file is no longer valid.
----------------
[  429045]       0+0   tango.core.stacktrace.WinStackTrace.winAddrBacktrace
                          0+87413 :0
[  424c39]       0+0    
tango.core.stacktrace.StackTrace.defaultAddrBacktrace
                          0+69993 :0
[  40cdb0]       0+0   xfbuild.BuildTask.BuildTask._ctor
                          0+5 BuildTask.d:44
[  40dbbd]       0+0    
xf.utils.Profiler.__T7profileVG18aa18_4275696c645461736b2
e7265616444657073Z.profile!(void).profile  0+9 ..\utils\Profiler.d:121
[  40cd94]       0+0   xfbuild.BuildTask.BuildTask._ctor
                          0+10 BuildTask.d:43
[  402c24]       0+0   xfbuild.Main.main.__dgliteral1
                          0+35 Main.d:262
[  406c9d]       0+0    
xf.utils.Profiler.__T7profileVG4aa4_6d61696eZ.profile!(vo
id).profile              0+9 ..\utils\Profiler.d:121
[  4022aa]       0+0   __Dmain
                          0+9 Main.d:107
[  42ba67]       0+0   _main
                          0+98199 :0
[  4374e0]       0+0   _mainCRTStartup
                          0+145936 :0
[7c817074]       0+0   ???
                             0+2084582820 :0
========

What's with the exceptions? Am I doing something wrong? I am using D 2.032
Sep 30 2009
next sibling parent Trass3r <mrmocool gmx.de> writes:
Some documentation is at the official site:
http://wiki.team0xf.com/index.php?n=Tools.XfBuild

Well it's still a WIP.
Guess that directory thing isn't implemented properly yet.
Using a single module works fine for me, it tracks all dependencies and 
compiles them.
Sep 30 2009
prev sibling parent Tom S <h3r3tic remove.mat.uni.torun.pl> writes:
Phil Deets wrote:

 What's with the exceptions? Am I doing something wrong? I am using D 2.032


Looks like running with "-?" caused it to create an empty ".deps" file 
and later trying to access it yields this exception. I'll look into it 
in a spare moment. Deleting the ".deps" file fixes the issue.

There's a basic info page at 
http://bitbucket.org/h3r3tic/xfbuild/wiki/Home and it mentions to delete 
the ".deps" file when something goes wrong :P

That and I think you need to specify +o for the output name.


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Sep 30 2009
prev sibling next sibling parent reply A Bothe <info alexanderbothe.com> writes:
Hi, I think I've got what you want...

http://www.alexanderbothe.com/?id=27 - the D-IDE
Sep 30 2009
next sibling parent reply Jeremie Pelletier <jeremiep gmail.com> writes:
A Bothe wrote:

 Hi, I think I've got what you want...
 
 http://www.alexanderbothe.com/?id=27 - the D-IDE


I just tried it (1.0.3.2) and it's still buggy: when I added files to 
the project manager it also added as many directories, the manager 
wouldn't let me scroll down either, and I've had some unhandled 
exceptions while opening my project after a restart.

But it looks good, keep working on it, I'm definitely gonna keep an eye 
out for this IDE!

Jeremie
Sep 30 2009
parent reply A Bothe <info alexanderbothe.com> writes:
Jeremie Pelletier Wrote:

 I just tried it (1.0.3.2) and it's still buggy: when I added files to 
 the project manager it also added as many directories, the manager 
 wouldn't let me scroll down either, and I've had some unhandled 
 exceptions while opening my project after a restart.
 
 But it looks good, keep working on it, I'm definitely gonna keep an eye 
 out for this IDE!
 
 Jeremie


At first I want to thank you for your response!


I can't understand your error descriptions - 
You created a project, then created a new file within that project, saved
everything via Ctrl+S  -  and then there is an exception thrown after restart?
Could you give me a screenshot or the exception message, please? That would
help a lot...
Sep 30 2009
parent Jeremie Pelletier <jeremiep gmail.com> writes:
A Bothe wrote:

 Jeremie Pelletier Wrote:

 I just tried it (1.0.3.2) and it's still buggy: when I added files to 
 the project manager it also added as many directories, the manager 
 wouldn't let me scroll down either, and I've had some unhandled 
 exceptions while opening my project after a restart.

 But it looks good, keep working on it, I'm definitely gonna keep an eye 
 out for this IDE!

 Jeremie


 
 At first I want to thank you for your response!
 
 
 I can't understand your error descriptions - 
 You created a project, then created a new file within that project, saved
everything via Ctrl+S  -  and then there is an exception thrown after restart?
 Could you give me a screenshot or the exception message, please? That would
help a lot...
 


I created a project, then added only existing files, I didn't create any 
from within the IDE. That didn't work well with the project manager 
since I ended up with one folder per file in the treeview. I then closed 
the IDE and reopened the project to get this:

System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance 
of an object.
    at D_Parser.DParser.ParseTypeIdent(Boolean identifierOnly, Boolean& 
hasClampMod)
    at D_Parser.DParser.ParseTypeIdent()
    at D_Parser.DParser.ParseExpression()
    at D_Parser.DParser.ParseBlock(DataType& ret, Boolean isFunctionBody)
    at D_Parser.DParser.Parse(String moduleName, List`1& imports)
    at D_Parser.DParser.ParseFile(String moduleName, String fn, List`1& 
imports)
    at D_IDE.DModule.Parse(String file)
    at D_IDE.DProject.ParseAll()
    at D_IDE.Form1.Open(String file, DProject owner)
    at D_IDE.Form1.OpenFile(Object sender, EventArgs e)
    at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key, 
EventArgs e)
    at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripMenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e)
    at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
    at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleMouseUp(MouseEventArgs e)
    at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
    at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
    at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons 
button, Int32 clicks)
    at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
    at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.WndProc(Message& m)
    at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.WndProc(Message& m)
    at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
    at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 
msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

Also I believe clicking the "Open Selected" button on the start page 
when there are no last opened projects result in a crash too. The status 
bar initializes to "line 999999" along with "parsing invariant".

By the way is that IDE opensource?
Sep 30 2009
prev sibling parent "Phil Deets" <pjdeets2 gmail.com> writes:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:05:37 -0500, A Bothe <info alexanderbothe.com>  
wrote:


 Hi, I think I've got what you want...

 http://www.alexanderbothe.com/?id=27 - the D-IDE


I tried that. It has potential, but here is a list of problems I had:

* Unpinned panels don't collapse until you unpin a second panel.
* When I right-clicked a project and click add folder, I got an unhandled  
exception message:

System.InvalidOperationException: BeginEdit did not succeed because  
LabelEdit property is false.
    at System.Windows.Forms.TreeNode.BeginEdit()
    at  
D_IDE.ProjectExplorer.createNewDirectoryToolStripMenuItem_Click(Object  
sender, EventArgs e)
    at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key, EventArgs  
e)
    at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripMenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e)
    at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
    at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleMouseUp(MouseEventArgs e)
    at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEventInteractive(EventArgs e,  
ToolStripItemEventType met)
    at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEvent(EventArgs e,  
ToolStripItemEventType met)
    at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
    at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
    at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons  
button, Int32 clicks)
    at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
    at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
    at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.WndProc(Message& m)
    at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.WndProc(Message& m)
    at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message&  
m)
    at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
    at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg,  
IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

* After trying repeatedly to get a context menu on this new folder that  
didn't properly get added, it would not come up. Then suddenly, the folder  
disappeared and another file mysteriously opened.
* After adding a folder again and getting the same error, then repeatedly  
right clicking on the folder again, and right clicking on other items in  
Project Files, I got a message box that asked if I really wanted to create  
a new project. This was very strange as I didn't left click anywhere to  
make this happen. I was just right-clicking stuff outside of context menus.

After this, I quit out of fear the program was corrupted in memory and it  
might go wacky and mess up my files.

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Sep 30 2009
prev sibling parent Jussi Jumppanen <jussij zeusedit.com> writes:
Phil Deets Wrote:


 Is there a Windows IDE with support for D2 debugging, 
 building, 


The Zeus IDE can be easily configured to run the D compiler
or any of the build tools:

   http://www.zeusedit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2465


 and basic code navigation (such as go to definition)? 


Zeus comes with a modified version of ctags meaning it can 
generate tag information for the D language.

This tag information is used to drive the code navigation, 
class browsing and intelisensing features.

I made these ctags changes quite some time ago changes when 
there was no D2 so I am not sure if this tagger stil works 
for D2. 

For any one that is inerested her are my ctags code changes:

    htp://www.zeusedit.com/z300/ctags_src.zip

NOTE: Zeus is shareware

Jussi Jumppanen
Author: Zeus IDE
Oct 02 2009