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digitalmars.D.debugger - Debuggers for D

reply Walter Bright <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:
This newsgroup is for discussions about debuggers for D with at least 
some D specific support:

1) Cristi Vlasceanu's ZeroBUGS for Linux:

http://www.zerobugs.org/

2) Jascha Wetzel's Ddbg for Windows:

http://ddbg.mainia.de/releases.html

3) gdb modified to debug D:

http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/gdb.html
http://svn.dsource.org/projects/gdb-patches/downloads/
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=135857&package_id=223105

4) DigDug

http://www.dsource.org/projects/digdug/

5) Wiki

http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?DebugEnvironments
Feb 26 2007
parent reply Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> writes:
Walter Bright wrote:

 This newsgroup is for discussions about debuggers for D with at least 
 some D specific support:
 
 1) Cristi Vlasceanu's ZeroBUGS for Linux:
 
 http://www.zerobugs.org/


D support is still vapor as far as I know?  Couldn't find anything 
mentioned on the web page.


 2) Jascha Wetzel's Ddbg for Windows:
 
 http://ddbg.mainia.de/releases.html


Yeah!


 3) gdb modified to debug D:
 
 http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/gdb.html
 http://svn.dsource.org/projects/gdb-patches/downloads/
 http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=135857&package_id=223105 
 
 
 4) DigDug
 
 http://www.dsource.org/projects/digdug/


Looks like vapor too.


 5) Wiki
 
 http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?DebugEnvironments



Don't forget everyone's favorite pre-bundled D-ready fully crash-enabled 
debugger for Windows
6) WinDbg!
    http://www.digitalmars.com/d/windbg.html

--bb
Feb 26 2007
next sibling parent reply Hasan Aljudy <hasan.aljudy gmail.com> writes:
Honestly .. the only one that counts (at least as of now) is this:
http://ddbg.mainia.de/releases.html
Feb 26 2007
next sibling parent Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> writes:
Hasan Aljudy wrote:

 Honestly .. the only one that counts (at least as of now) is this:
 http://ddbg.mainia.de/releases.html
 
 


'Course, that doesn't mean we can't at least /talk/ about the other 
possibilities.  I suspect this newsgroup is intended more to be a place 
where it's ok to go back and forth ad infinitum about CODEVIEW esoterica 
  without worrying about annoying everyone on the main forum.

--bb
Feb 26 2007
prev sibling parent Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> writes:
Hasan Aljudy wrote:

 Honestly .. the only one that counts (at least as of now) is this:
 http://ddbg.mainia.de/releases.html


As long as it's windows only, I don't see how you can say that.  I don't 
do any windows development and can't see doing any in the foreseeable 
future.

Later,
Brad
Feb 26 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent reply John Demme <me teqdruid.com> writes:
Bill Baxter wrote:


 Walter Bright wrote:

 This newsgroup is for discussions about debuggers for D with at least
 some D specific support:
 
 1) Cristi Vlasceanu's ZeroBUGS for Linux:
 
 http://www.zerobugs.org/


 
 D support is still vapor as far as I know?  Couldn't find anything
 mentioned on the web page.
 


He doesn't mention it on the website, but there is some limited support for
D.  I've been working with it a bit today.

Unfortunately, when it comes to debugging D code on Linux it's hard to label
a debugger as vaporware when in fact "dmd -g" is vaporware.  I can't tell
what's the debugger's fault and what DMD either isn't doing or is doing

linenumber and file information is wrong, and most symbols don't appear in
the DWARF information.  I don't mind sounding like a broken record when I
say that I'd be very, very happy if the next DMD had real Linux debugging
support.  According to Critian, it's not too hard to do with libdwarf.

-- 
~John Demme
me teqdruid.com
http://www.teqdruid.com/
Feb 26 2007
next sibling parent reply Cristian Vlasceanu <cristian zero-bugs.com> writes:
John Demme wrote:

 Bill Baxter wrote:
 

 Walter Bright wrote:

 This newsgroup is for discussions about debuggers for D with at least
 some D specific support:

 1) Cristi Vlasceanu's ZeroBUGS for Linux:

 http://www.zerobugs.org/


 D support is still vapor as far as I know?  Couldn't find anything
 mentioned on the web page.


 
 He doesn't mention it on the website, but there is some limited support for
 D.  I've been working with it a bit today.
 
 Unfortunately, when it comes to debugging D code on Linux it's hard to label
 a debugger as vaporware when in fact "dmd -g" is vaporware.  I can't tell
 what's the debugger's fault and what DMD either isn't doing or is doing

 linenumber and file information is wrong, and most symbols don't appear in
 the DWARF information.  I don't mind sounding like a broken record when I
 say that I'd be very, very happy if the next DMD had real Linux debugging
 support.  According to Critian, it's not too hard to do with libdwarf.
 


I am currently having an email exchange with Walter on the topic of line 
numbers. Which BTW, work with GDC.

Indeed, the only place I alluded to D is on the zero-bugs.com FAQ page. 
Thomas Kuehne has graciously contributed a D demangler, the Dmain 
function and the dthrow are detected, but that's about it so far.

I hope to get the D support in a better shape as soon as we fix this 
line numbers show stopper problem.
Feb 26 2007
parent John Demme <me teqdruid.com> writes:
Cristian Vlasceanu wrote:


 John Demme wrote:

 Bill Baxter wrote:
 

 Walter Bright wrote:

 This newsgroup is for discussions about debuggers for D with at least
 some D specific support:

 1) Cristi Vlasceanu's ZeroBUGS for Linux:

 http://www.zerobugs.org/


 D support is still vapor as far as I know?  Couldn't find anything
 mentioned on the web page.


 
 He doesn't mention it on the website, but there is some limited support
 for
 D.  I've been working with it a bit today.
 
 Unfortunately, when it comes to debugging D code on Linux it's hard to
 label
 a debugger as vaporware when in fact "dmd -g" is vaporware.  I can't tell
 what's the debugger's fault and what DMD either isn't doing or is doing

 linenumber and file information is wrong, and most symbols don't appear
 in
 the DWARF information.  I don't mind sounding like a broken record when I
 say that I'd be very, very happy if the next DMD had real Linux debugging
 support.  According to Critian, it's not too hard to do with libdwarf.
 


 I am currently having an email exchange with Walter on the topic of line
 numbers. Which BTW, work with GDC.
 
 Indeed, the only place I alluded to D is on the zero-bugs.com FAQ page.
 Thomas Kuehne has graciously contributed a D demangler, the Dmain
 function and the dthrow are detected, but that's about it so far.
 
 I hope to get the D support in a better shape as soon as we fix this
 line numbers show stopper problem.


Great!

While you're at it, and Walter's knee deep in DWARF output, can you nudge

programming--and I do a--it's a debugging show stopper, also.

Thanks for your work with D!

-- 
~John Demme
me teqdruid.com
http://www.teqdruid.com/
Feb 27 2007
prev sibling parent reply Ary Manzana <ary esperanto.org.ar> writes:
John Demme wrote:

 I'm pretty sure that a fair of the
 linenumber and file information is wrong


Imagine when mixins will come into play. What line and number 
information can be recorded for symbols generated at compile time? :-O
Feb 27 2007
parent reply Jascha Wetzel <"[firstname]" mainia.de> writes:
it wouldn't make any sense to assign any line other than the one of the
mixin statement. hence this isn't much of a problem.

DMD for windows assigns the line following the mixin statement to the
code. well, kind of... it looks a bit like the current behaviour is not
intended.

Ary Manzana wrote:

 John Demme wrote:

 I'm pretty sure that a fair of the
 linenumber and file information is wrong


 
 Imagine when mixins will come into play. What line and number
 information can be recorded for symbols generated at compile time? :-O
Feb 27 2007
parent reply Michael Coupland <mcoupland gmail.com> writes:
In an ideal world there would also be a full "stack trace" of 
information where the mixin was used... The more complex metaprogramming 
becomes, the more important it is to be able to (easily!) debug the 
compilation process itself.

I don't pay too close attention to the D community, and clearly runtime 
debugging support is a higher priority, but is 
mixin/template/metaprogramming debugging on anyone's radar at all? It's 
nice to have powerful metaprogramming support in D, but if the only way 
to debug a wacky template is via compiler error messages, it's just as 
bad as having to debug a normal program only using crash stack traces.

Jascha Wetzel wrote:

 it wouldn't make any sense to assign any line other than the one of the
 mixin statement. hence this isn't much of a problem.
 
 DMD for windows assigns the line following the mixin statement to the
 code. well, kind of... it looks a bit like the current behaviour is not
 intended.
 
 Ary Manzana wrote:

 John Demme wrote:

 I'm pretty sure that a fair of the
 linenumber and file information is wrong


 Imagine when mixins will come into play. What line and number
 information can be recorded for symbols generated at compile time? :-O
Jan 26 2008
parent Ary Borenszweig <ary esperanto.org.ar> writes:
Michael Coupland wrote:

 In an ideal world there would also be a full "stack trace" of 
 information where the mixin was used... The more complex metaprogramming 
 becomes, the more important it is to be able to (easily!) debug the 
 compilation process itself.
 
 I don't pay too close attention to the D community, and clearly runtime 
 debugging support is a higher priority, but is 
 mixin/template/metaprogramming debugging on anyone's radar at all?


Descent could do this in a future. I think it isn't hard, but it'll take 
its time.
Jan 28 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent Howard Berkey <howard well.com> writes:
Bill Baxter Wrote:


 Walter Bright wrote:

 This newsgroup is for discussions about debuggers for D with at least 
 some D specific support:
 
 1) Cristi Vlasceanu's ZeroBUGS for Linux:
 
 http://www.zerobugs.org/


 
 D support is still vapor as far as I know?  Couldn't find anything 
 mentioned on the web page.


I was about to ask about that.  It looks like a great debugger, but I didn't
know it had D-specific support yet.

Howard
Feb 26 2007
prev sibling parent jcc7 <technocrat7 gmail.com> writes:
== Quote from Bill Baxter (dnewsgroup billbaxter.com)'s article

 Walter Bright wrote:

 This newsgroup is for discussions about debuggers for D with at
 least some D specific support:

 1) Cristi Vlasceanu's ZeroBUGS for Linux:

 http://www.zerobugs.org/


 D support is still vapor as far as I know?  Couldn't find anything
 mentioned on the web page.


...


 4) DigDug

 http://www.dsource.org/projects/digdug/


 Looks like vapor too.


FWIW, DigDug is more "abandonware" than "vaporware".
(See http://www.dsource.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=153)

And for the very curious, the code and a Windows binary are still available,
too:
http://svn.dsource.org/projects/digdug/

jcc7
Feb 27 2007