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digitalmars.D.announce - DigitalMars' GSoC application has been rejected

reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
Unfortunately we won't participate in GSoC this year. The decision was 
not surprising - our application has been rejected.

Sadly there are lots of things we could have done better. Our 
application has been a low-priority side job for Walter and myself and 
as such its quality has suffered greatly.

GSoC applications are a great example of things where one or more 
community members can have a large impact on D's well being by 
offloading a parallelizable work from the two of us.

Please consider taking a leadership role for GSoC 2015.


Andrei
Feb 26 2014
next sibling parent Iain Buclaw <ibuclaw gdcproject.org> writes:
On 27 February 2014 02:34, Andrei Alexandrescu
<SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:

 Unfortunately we won't participate in GSoC this year. The decision was not
 surprising - our application has been rejected.

 Sadly there are lots of things we could have done better. Our application
 has been a low-priority side job for Walter and myself and as such its
 quality has suffered greatly.

 GSoC applications are a great example of things where one or more community
 members can have a large impact on D's well being by offloading a
 parallelizable work from the two of us.

 Please consider taking a leadership role for GSoC 2015.


I was just wondering what was happening and assumed that this was the
case last night.  Thanks for confirming.

Regards
Iain
Feb 26 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Craig Dillabaugh" <cdillaba cg.scs.carleton.ca> writes:
On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 02:34:53 UTC, Andrei 
Alexandrescu wrote:

 Unfortunately we won't participate in GSoC this year. The 
 decision was not surprising - our application has been rejected.

 Sadly there are lots of things we could have done better. Our 
 application has been a low-priority side job for Walter and 
 myself and as such its quality has suffered greatly.

 GSoC applications are a great example of things where one or 
 more community members can have a large impact on D's well 
 being by offloading a parallelizable work from the two of us.

 Please consider taking a leadership role for GSoC 2015.


 Andrei


How much time did you spend on the application this year?  How 
much time do you think would be needed to put together a good 
quality proposal?
Feb 27 2014
parent reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 2/27/14, 10:10 AM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

 On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 02:34:53 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 Unfortunately we won't participate in GSoC this year. The decision was
 not surprising - our application has been rejected.

 Sadly there are lots of things we could have done better. Our
 application has been a low-priority side job for Walter and myself and
 as such its quality has suffered greatly.

 GSoC applications are a great example of things where one or more
 community members can have a large impact on D's well being by
 offloading a parallelizable work from the two of us.

 Please consider taking a leadership role for GSoC 2015.


 Andrei


 How much time did you spend on the application this year?  How much time
 do you think would be needed to put together a good quality proposal?


Walter and I pleaded that the other completes the application, with me 
saying I don't have the time and him saying he's not suited for the job. 
In the end I "won" and he spent a couple of hours drafting a proposal, 
which was indeed bad. I spent maybe an hour a late evening trying to 
improve the proposal and that was about it. Made no page on dlang.org 
and did nothing on the wiki ideas page (which I think was weak as well).

But sheer time spent is not essential here as the availability of mental 
cycles. When I do something right I think of it in small quanta all the 
time - showering, walking, running, whatever. So by the time I sit down 
to work on it I have ideas and plans already formed. The GSoC was the 
exact opposite - unprepared "todo" work vying for attention at the 
periphery of an already overflowing plate. There's no way I could have 
done a good job at it.

For better or worse Walter and I are the bottlenecks on a lot of 
D-related stuff. (Just look at http://goo.gl/jGYzir which is developing 
a nice tenure as a tab in my web browser.) Kenji wrote me an email 
months ago asking for my take on DIP49, and has done a lot of legwork 
before I came back to him saying we need a radical simplification. No 
wonder he wouldn't answer my emails. Whenever anything comes, I need to 
act "managerial" - absorb context quickly, make a decision, delegate 
details, move on.

There's just too much important AND urgent stuff going on right now in 
D, which gives a whole other perspective on the people who advise us on 
how to do things better, to dissolve into the shrubs when a very 
concrete opportunity to do something. From that angle, every single 
little thing that's "parallelizable" and off our plate (such as build 
system, auto tester, release management, GSoC, and such) is a double 
improvement for the language as a whole: once because that part gets 
done better, and twice because it frees us to better focus on other 
things. Concretely: there wasn't much time to work on allocators lately...


Thanks,

Andrei
Feb 27 2014
next sibling parent reply "Craig Dillabaugh" <cdillaba cg.scs.carleton.ca> writes:
On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 18:47:37 UTC, Andrei 
Alexandrescu wrote:

 On 2/27/14, 10:10 AM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

 On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 02:34:53 UTC, Andrei 
 Alexandrescu wrote:

 Unfortunately we won't participate in GSoC this year. The 
 decision was
 not surprising - our application has been rejected.

 Sadly there are lots of things we could have done better. Our
 application has been a low-priority side job for Walter and 
 myself and
 as such its quality has suffered greatly.

 GSoC applications are a great example of things where one or 
 more
 community members can have a large impact on D's well being by
 offloading a parallelizable work from the two of us.

 Please consider taking a leadership role for GSoC 2015.


 Andrei


 How much time did you spend on the application this year?  How 
 much time
 do you think would be needed to put together a good quality 
 proposal?


 Walter and I pleaded that the other completes the application, 
 with me saying I don't have the time and him saying he's not 
 suited for the job. In the end I "won" and he spent a couple of 
 hours drafting a proposal, which was indeed bad. I spent maybe 
 an hour a late evening trying to improve the proposal and that 
 was about it. Made no page on dlang.org and did nothing on the 
 wiki ideas page (which I think was weak as well).

 But sheer time spent is not essential here as the availability 
 of mental cycles. When I do something right I think of it in 
 small quanta all the time - showering, walking, running, 
 whatever. So by the time I sit down to work on it I have ideas 
 and plans already formed. The GSoC was the exact opposite - 
 unprepared "todo" work vying for attention at the periphery of 
 an already overflowing plate. There's no way I could have done 
 a good job at it.

 For better or worse Walter and I are the bottlenecks on a lot 
 of D-related stuff. (Just look at http://goo.gl/jGYzir which is 
 developing a nice tenure as a tab in my web browser.) Kenji 
 wrote me an email months ago asking for my take on DIP49, and 
 has done a lot of legwork before I came back to him saying we 
 need a radical simplification. No wonder he wouldn't answer my 
 emails. Whenever anything comes, I need to act "managerial" - 
 absorb context quickly, make a decision, delegate details, move 
 on.

 There's just too much important AND urgent stuff going on right 
 now in D, which gives a whole other perspective on the people 
 who advise us on how to do things better, to dissolve into the 
 shrubs when a very concrete opportunity to do something. From 
 that angle, every single little thing that's "parallelizable" 
 and off our plate (such as build system, auto tester, release 
 management, GSoC, and such) is a double improvement for the 
 language as a whole: once because that part gets done better, 
 and twice because it frees us to better focus on other things. 
 Concretely: there wasn't much time to work on allocators 
 lately...


 Thanks,

 Andrei


One more question. Do you feel this is a job that someone who 
isn't necessarily well versed in the various technologies could 
take on (in a sort of manager role), or would you need someone 
who has the expertise to evaluate various proposals.
Feb 27 2014
parent reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 2/27/14, 11:11 AM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

 One more question. Do you feel this is a job that someone who isn't
 necessarily well versed in the various technologies could take on (in a
 sort of manager role), or would you need someone who has the expertise
 to evaluate various proposals.


Any motivated individual with little to moderate expertise can do it. 
The application is for the most part filling forms and creating prose. A 
person who's on top of things can prod contributors into submitting 
ideas, rally mentors, make sure the related web pages are in good shape, 
etc. etc. etc. To put things into perspective, we could have missed the 
deadline if the thing didn't bubble up to my level of consciousness.

Andrei
Feb 27 2014
parent reply "Craig Dillabaugh" <cdillaba cg.scs.carleton.ca> writes:
On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 21:37:03 UTC, Andrei 
Alexandrescu wrote:

 On 2/27/14, 11:11 AM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

 One more question. Do you feel this is a job that someone who 
 isn't
 necessarily well versed in the various technologies could take 
 on (in a
 sort of manager role), or would you need someone who has the 
 expertise
 to evaluate various proposals.


 Any motivated individual with little to moderate expertise can 
 do it. The application is for the most part filling forms and 
 creating prose. A person who's on top of things can prod 
 contributors into submitting ideas, rally mentors, make sure 
 the related web pages are in good shape, etc. etc. etc. To put 
 things into perspective, we could have missed the deadline if 
 the thing didn't bubble up to my level of consciousness.

 Andrei


In that case, as Yoda would say:

Volunteer to prepare GSoC 2015 proposal I shall.

Do you have copies of past submissions as a guideline, or is it 
just what is on the Wiki.
Feb 27 2014
parent reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 2/27/14, 1:42 PM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

 On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 21:37:03 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 On 2/27/14, 11:11 AM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

 One more question. Do you feel this is a job that someone who isn't
 necessarily well versed in the various technologies could take on (in a
 sort of manager role), or would you need someone who has the expertise
 to evaluate various proposals.


 Any motivated individual with little to moderate expertise can do it.
 The application is for the most part filling forms and creating prose.
 A person who's on top of things can prod contributors into submitting
 ideas, rally mentors, make sure the related web pages are in good
 shape, etc. etc. etc. To put things into perspective, we could have
 missed the deadline if the thing didn't bubble up to my level of
 consciousness.

 Andrei


 In that case, as Yoda would say:

 Volunteer to prepare GSoC 2015 proposal I shall.

 Do you have copies of past submissions as a guideline, or is it just
 what is on the Wiki.


Congratulations and good luck! Stay tuned to the general GSoC process 
and I hope you'll be around in December :o).

Google doesn't save past submissions. We have our older gsoc pages on 
dlang.org and the wiki. I think Walter saved some form data.


Andrei
Feb 27 2014
parent reply "Craig Dillabaugh" <cdillaba cg.scs.carleton.ca> writes:
On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 21:59:37 UTC, Andrei 
Alexandrescu wrote:

 On 2/27/14, 1:42 PM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

 On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 21:37:03 UTC, Andrei 
 Alexandrescu wrote:

 On 2/27/14, 11:11 AM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

 One more question. Do you feel this is a job that someone 
 who isn't
 necessarily well versed in the various technologies could 
 take on (in a
 sort of manager role), or would you need someone who has the 
 expertise
 to evaluate various proposals.


 Any motivated individual with little to moderate expertise 
 can do it.
 The application is for the most part filling forms and 
 creating prose.
 A person who's on top of things can prod contributors into 
 submitting
 ideas, rally mentors, make sure the related web pages are in 
 good
 shape, etc. etc. etc. To put things into perspective, we 
 could have
 missed the deadline if the thing didn't bubble up to my level 
 of
 consciousness.

 Andrei


 In that case, as Yoda would say:

 Volunteer to prepare GSoC 2015 proposal I shall.

 Do you have copies of past submissions as a guideline, or is 
 it just
 what is on the Wiki.


 Congratulations and good luck! Stay tuned to the general GSoC 
 process and I hope you'll be around in December :o).

 Google doesn't save past submissions. We have our older gsoc 
 pages on dlang.org and the wiki. I think Walter saved some form 
 data.


 Andrei


I will try to keep an eye on what the successful projects do this 
summer, that may give me so ideas.
Feb 27 2014
parent reply Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> writes:
On 2/27/14, 2:03 PM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

 On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 21:59:37 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 On 2/27/14, 1:42 PM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

 In that case, as Yoda would say:

 Volunteer to prepare GSoC 2015 proposal I shall.

 Do you have copies of past submissions as a guideline, or is it just
 what is on the Wiki.


 Congratulations and good luck! Stay tuned to the general GSoC process
 and I hope you'll be around in December :o).

 Google doesn't save past submissions. We have our older gsoc pages on
 dlang.org and the wiki. I think Walter saved some form data.


 Andrei


 I will try to keep an eye on what the successful projects do this
 summer, that may give me so ideas.


Also, keep in mind that GSoC is pretty much two things:

1) a nice little pay check for students
2) a bit of structure around getting work done


happen.  How about trying a practice run despite not having google 
tossing in the funding?
Feb 27 2014
next sibling parent reply "Craig Dillabaugh" <cdillaba cg.scs.carleton.ca> writes:
On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 22:25:27 UTC, Brad Roberts wrote:

 On 2/27/14, 2:03 PM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

 On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 21:59:37 UTC, Andrei 
 Alexandrescu wrote:

 On 2/27/14, 1:42 PM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

 In that case, as Yoda would say:

 Volunteer to prepare GSoC 2015 proposal I shall.

 Do you have copies of past submissions as a guideline, or is 
 it just
 what is on the Wiki.


 Congratulations and good luck! Stay tuned to the general GSoC 
 process
 and I hope you'll be around in December :o).

 Google doesn't save past submissions. We have our older gsoc 
 pages on
 dlang.org and the wiki. I think Walter saved some form data.


 Andrei


 I will try to keep an eye on what the successful projects do 
 this
 summer, that may give me so ideas.


 Also, keep in mind that GSoC is pretty much two things:

 1) a nice little pay check for students
 2) a bit of structure around getting work done


 make it happen.  How about trying a practice run despite not 
 having google tossing in the funding?


So you mean D Summer of Code?

I had actually been thinking of proposing having a D mentoring
program.  Similar to:

https://community.kde.org/Getinvolved/development
(at the bottom)

Experienced D developers, who feel they could use
on a specific project, or who would be otherwise interested in
taking on an 'apprentice' could list projects they would like
to see someone take on.  Interested developers could browse
through and see if any of the proposed projects piqued their
interest.


The 'student' needs some motivation to complete the project
I suppose.  Perhaps a DConf T-shirt autographed by Walter and
Andrei or something :o)
Feb 27 2014
next sibling parent "Mike" <none none.com> writes:
On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 23:21:29 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
wrote:

 https://community.kde.org/Getinvolved/development
 (at the bottom)

 Experienced D developers, who feel they could use
 on a specific project, or who would be otherwise interested in
 taking on an 'apprentice' could list projects they would like
 to see someone take on.  Interested developers could browse
 through and see if any of the proposed projects piqued their
 interest.


IMO this is EXACTLY what this effort needs.  I don't know what 
happened to the apprenticeship custom, but it needs a 
comeback...badly.  This is a great idea.  The apprentices this 
year will likely become the mentors of next year, and it will 
only accelerate.

Make a wiki page to get started.  Post an announcement.  People 
may be apprehensive at first, but I think it will catch on.  If 
it doesn't, no harm done.



 The 'student' needs some motivation to complete the project
 I suppose.  Perhaps a DConf T-shirt autographed by Walter and
 Andrei or something :o)


I would do it simply for the benefit of education.  Lord knows 
it'd be a better return on my investment than an overpriced 
university.  It would also help my career to say that I worked 
under some of the prominent names in this community.

Mentors would benefit as well.  I'm sure Iain would love some 
help doing the 2.065.0 merge, yes?  They would learn some 
valuable leadership skills as well, and may actually enjoy the 
experience.  I greatly enjoyed the little mentoring I've done in 
my career.

I can only see good things coming out of such an effort, if it 
takes hold.  It's a superb idea.

Mike
Feb 27 2014
prev sibling parent Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> writes:
On 2/27/14, 3:21 PM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

 On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 22:25:27 UTC, Brad Roberts wrote:

 On 2/27/14, 2:03 PM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

 On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 21:59:37 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
 wrote:

 On 2/27/14, 1:42 PM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

 In that case, as Yoda would say:

 Volunteer to prepare GSoC 2015 proposal I shall.

 Do you have copies of past submissions as a guideline, or is it just
 what is on the Wiki.


 Congratulations and good luck! Stay tuned to the general GSoC process
 and I hope you'll be around in December :o).

 Google doesn't save past submissions. We have our older gsoc pages on
 dlang.org and the wiki. I think Walter saved some form data.


 Andrei


 I will try to keep an eye on what the successful projects do this
 summer, that may give me so ideas.


 Also, keep in mind that GSoC is pretty much two things:

 1) a nice little pay check for students
 2) a bit of structure around getting work done


 happen.  How about trying a practice run despite not having google
 tossing in the funding?


 So you mean D Summer of Code?

 I had actually been thinking of proposing having a D mentoring
 program.  Similar to:

 https://community.kde.org/Getinvolved/development
 (at the bottom)

 Experienced D developers, who feel they could use
 on a specific project, or who would be otherwise interested in
 taking on an 'apprentice' could list projects they would like
 to see someone take on.  Interested developers could browse
 through and see if any of the proposed projects piqued their
 interest.


 The 'student' needs some motivation to complete the project
 I suppose.  Perhaps a DConf T-shirt autographed by Walter and
 Andrei or something :o)


Call it whatever you want.. Ideally it's not a specific one time (or 
recurring) event, but rather the normal way development happens. 
Someone wants to help, so they do.  There's already appropriate mailing 
lists / forums / newsgroups for interaction.  There's lots of work to be 
done.  What's needed is people to step up.  Adding a little structure 
and making it known that the help is available is all good and would 
likely help tip more people from thinking about it into doing it.

The appropriate forum / mailing lists:
     dmd-internals
     D-runtime
     phobos
     D.gnu
     digitalmars.D.ldc

All of which are available via forum.dlang.org or lists.puremagic.com. 
All of which contain multiple people who are generally very eager to help.

Following bug reports and pull requests and watching how fixes and 
changes are made is also a pretty good way to learn about the code base. 
  If the commits and code changes don't make sense, feel free to ask the 
submitter (via private email or publicly on the appropriate forum, 
preferably the latter) to help explain the change -- chances are more 
comments would be useful to more than just the asker.

As to motivation, personally, I'm not sure we want someone who isn't 
self motivated.  That said, I recognize that sometimes it takes a little 
something extra to incent getting past the learning curve which can be 
daunting for any project.  I find that financial incentives, like GSoC, 
tend to attract that disappear shortly after the incentive is removed. 
The group of people that contribute today are all volunteers, up to and 
including Walter and Andrei.  Some have agreements with their employers 
to spend work time in various amounts, but that's the exception rather 
than the rule.

My 2 cents,
Brad
Feb 28 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Mathias LANG" <pro.mathias.lang gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 22:25:27 UTC, Brad Roberts wrote:


 make it happen.  How about trying a practice run despite not 
 having google tossing in the funding?


If someone would want to contribute, what would be the right 
person to contact, or the right resource to turn to ?

I was looking to fix a (probably simple) bug in DMD but it's 
quite hard to grok 
(http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?DMDSourceGuide helps but 
it's a bit outdated).
Also, searching contributing in the wiki only yield GDC / LDC 
links.
Feb 27 2014
parent Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 2/27/14, 3:22 PM, Mathias LANG wrote:

 On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 22:25:27 UTC, Brad Roberts wrote:


 happen.  How about trying a practice run despite not having google
 tossing in the funding?


 If someone would want to contribute, what would be the right person to
 contact, or the right resource to turn to ?


Probably kickstarter or similar would be a good possibility for 
well-defined projects of broad interest.

Andrei
Feb 27 2014
prev sibling parent Bruno Medeiros <brunodomedeiros+dng gmail.com> writes:
On 27/02/2014 22:25, Brad Roberts wrote:

 Also, keep in mind that GSoC is pretty much two things:

 1) a nice little pay check for students
 2) a bit of structure around getting work done


I would say it's one more thing too: Being able to say you participated 
in GSoC (for your resume/credentials, or just bragging rights). For a 
student and future graduate, I would say that is valuable, for some 
students perhaps even more than the monetary rewards.

-- 
Bruno Medeiros
https://twitter.com/brunodomedeiros
Mar 03 2014
prev sibling parent reply "Mike" <none none.com> writes:
On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 18:47:37 UTC, Andrei 
Alexandrescu wrote:

 For better or worse Walter and I are the bottlenecks on a lot 
 of D-related stuff.


I would really like to help with this, and (I think) others would 
too.

The ideas for GSoC 2015 could start now.  I took the liberty of 
adding the ideas page (http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2015_Ideas).  
Add your ideas today!  Deadlines, call for mentors, link to GSoC 
application instructions should all be added now, if possible.

Help me help you:
The recent "CONTRIBUTING.md" for DLang.org helped me make a few 
updates to neglected areas of the website, and I have more coming.

The GDC Project Ideas page 
(http://wiki.dlang.org/GDC/ProjectIdeas) helped me add a little 
value to that project.  I revisit it periodically to find out 
"What can I do today?"

I realize the last thing you need is another suggestion, but 
perhaps something like these could be created for the D effort as 
a whole.  For example, what needs to be done to help prepare for 
DConf 2014?

Mike

P.S. Forgive me if all this has been beaten to death before. My 
sincere thanks for all you and Walter have done to give us D.  
I'm hoping for a career changer with this language.  God knows I 
need one.
Feb 27 2014
parent "Craig Dillabaugh" <cdillaba cg.scs.carleton.ca> writes:
On Friday, 28 February 2014 at 01:02:11 UTC, Mike wrote:

 On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 18:47:37 UTC, Andrei 
 Alexandrescu wrote:

 For better or worse Walter and I are the bottlenecks on a lot 
 of D-related stuff.


 I would really like to help with this, and (I think) others 
 would too.

 The ideas for GSoC 2015 could start now.  I took the liberty of 
 adding the ideas page (http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2015_Ideas).  
 Add your ideas today!  Deadlines, call for mentors, link to 
 GSoC application instructions should all be added now, if 
 possible.

 Help me help you:
 The recent "CONTRIBUTING.md" for DLang.org helped me make a few 
 updates to neglected areas of the website, and I have more 
 coming.

 The GDC Project Ideas page 
 (http://wiki.dlang.org/GDC/ProjectIdeas) helped me add a little 
 value to that project.  I revisit it periodically to find out 
 "What can I do today?"

 I realize the last thing you need is another suggestion, but 
 perhaps something like these could be created for the D effort 
 as a whole.  For example, what needs to be done to help prepare 
 for DConf 2014?

 Mike

 P.S. Forgive me if all this has been beaten to death before. My 
 sincere thanks for all you and Walter have done to give us D.  
 I'm hoping for a career changer with this language.  God knows 
 I need one.


Thanks for setting up the idea's page for GSoC 2015, that is a 
start.
As you suggested it would be good to have a general "Help Wanted" 
page, possibly with links to willing mentors.   It would seem to 
add some
such thing to the Wiki, possibly under the "Get Involved" 
section, then
role some of these ideas into the GSoC projects.
Feb 27 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Dejan Lekic" <dejan.lekic gmail.com> writes:
I am quite sure I will have time for this, next year. We'll keep 
in touch.
Mar 04 2014
parent reply "Craig Dillabaugh" <cdillaba cg.scs.carleton.ca> writes:
On Tuesday, 4 March 2014 at 11:13:32 UTC, Dejan Lekic wrote:

 I am quite sure I will have time for this, next year. We'll 
 keep in touch.


I had also expressed and interest in helping out with this, as 
had at least one other poster (Mike I think).  While 2015 is 
still a good way off perhaps we should come up with a plan as to 
how we can work together so as not to duplicate effort.

I always access these forums through the web-interface.  Is there 
a way to look up the email addresses of my fellow posters?
Mar 04 2014
parent reply "Joakim" <joakim airpost.net> writes:
On Tuesday, 4 March 2014 at 13:40:30 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

 On Tuesday, 4 March 2014 at 11:13:32 UTC, Dejan Lekic wrote:

 I am quite sure I will have time for this, next year. We'll 
 keep in touch.


 I had also expressed and interest in helping out with this, as 
 had at least one other poster (Mike I think).  While 2015 is 
 still a good way off perhaps we should come up with a plan as 
 to how we can work together so as not to duplicate effort.

 I always access these forums through the web-interface.  Is 
 there a way to look up the email addresses of my fellow posters?


The web interface for the mailing list includes email addresses:

http://lists.puremagic.com/pipermail/digitalmars-d-announce/2014-March/date.html

Also, I think if you log into the webforum, it might have a link 
for the raw posting source including email addresses, but I don't 
log in so I can't say for sure.
Mar 13 2014
parent "Craig Dillabaugh" <cdillaba cg.scs.carleton.ca> writes:
On Thursday, 13 March 2014 at 10:23:09 UTC, Joakim wrote:

 On Tuesday, 4 March 2014 at 13:40:30 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh 
 wrote:

 On Tuesday, 4 March 2014 at 11:13:32 UTC, Dejan Lekic wrote:

 I am quite sure I will have time for this, next year. We'll 
 keep in touch.


 I had also expressed and interest in helping out with this, as 
 had at least one other poster (Mike I think).  While 2015 is 
 still a good way off perhaps we should come up with a plan as 
 to how we can work together so as not to duplicate effort.

 I always access these forums through the web-interface.  Is 
 there a way to look up the email addresses of my fellow 
 posters?


 The web interface for the mailing list includes email addresses:

 http://lists.puremagic.com/pipermail/digitalmars-d-announce/2014-March/date.html

 Also, I think if you log into the webforum, it might have a 
 link for the raw posting source including email addresses, but 
 I don't log in so I can't say for sure.


Thanks for that link.  I use the web forum exclusively, and I am 
usually logged in when I post, and I couldn't seem to find a 
email addresses for other posters.
Mar 13 2014
prev sibling parent "Denis Koroskin" <2korden gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 27 February 2014 at 02:34:53 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:

 Unfortunately we won't participate in GSoC this year. The 
 decision was not surprising - our application has been rejected.

 Sadly there are lots of things we could have done better. Our 
 application has been a low-priority side job for Walter and 
 myself and as such its quality has suffered greatly.

 GSoC applications are a great example of things where one or 
 more community members can have a large impact on D's well 
 being by offloading a parallelizable work from the two of us.

 Please consider taking a leadership role for GSoC 2015.


 Andrei


In 2013 KolibriOS, an open-source Operation System written in
Assembly, applied for GSoC and was rejected as well. They went to
Kickstarter, and raised money for their own SoC:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kolibrios/kolibrios-help-us-hold-our-own-summer-of-code-2013/

Should we try doing the same for D?
Mar 12 2014