digitalmars.D.announce - D Shared Software System version 0.1 Released!
- Gregor Richards (100/100) Nov 09 2006 I have just released the first (alpha-ish) version of DSSS, the D Shared...
- Daniel Keep (25/25) Nov 09 2006 This is exactly what D needed.
- Gregor Richards (3/32) Nov 09 2006 An excellent idea. I'll put it on "The List."
- Sean Kelly (4/7) Nov 09 2006 *raises hand*
- Chris Nicholson-Sauls (6/140) Nov 09 2006 Very nice indeed! I do some work with Ruby and do love the Gems system....
- Jarrett Billingsley (4/8) Nov 09 2006 Fantastic! I'll be sure to check it out and try to get MiniD / nonagon ...
- Bill Baxter (3/6) Nov 09 2006 Excellent! Good work! Looking forward to trying it out.
- Andrey Khropov (6/7) Nov 10 2006 Totally cool!
- Dawid =?UTF-8?B?Q2nEmcW8YXJraWV3aWN6?= (4/7) Nov 11 2006 This is definitely what D needs! I will try it, but if it works like you
- pragma (4/138) Nov 11 2006 I would be happy to plug my libraries into this once I have a release
- Dawid =?UTF-8?B?Q2nEmcW8YXJraWV3aWN6?= (3/4) Nov 11 2006 Could somebody drop me the source, because I just can't wait when dsourc...
- Gregor Richards (7/14) Nov 11 2006 http://www.codu.org/dsss-0.1/
- Anders Bergh (4/22) Nov 12 2006 I get the following message when trying to access that link:
- Gregor Richards (4/35) Nov 12 2006 Oy, oops X_X
- clayasaurus (4/138) Nov 13 2006 Is there some sort of manual available for this? I'm not quite sure how
- Gregor Richards (6/152) Nov 13 2006 There's a docs directory with READMEs, but not for the basic use yet -
I have just released the first (alpha-ish) version of DSSS, the D Shared Software System. It definitely still has some bugs, but it's at a point where I need to see if anybody actually will use it :) Most notable bug is that its installation scheme is a bit rigid right now. It's on "the list." DSSS is described fully below, but up-front I will mention that part of DSSS' purpose is to provide an analogue to Perl's CPAN or Ruby's Gems. DSSS is available from http://www.dsource.org/projects/dsss . Here's everything you need to know: The D Shared Software System ---------------------------- DSSS, the D Shared Software System, is a tool to ease the building, installation, configuration and acquisition of D software. Building -------- There are plenty of tools for building D software. There's bud (previously build), upon which DSSS is based, the antiquated make, and a plethora of other tools capable of building D software. DSSS intends to be more generally useful than any of them. * DSSS eliminates the need to keep lists of source files, figuring them all out by imports in source. It will even link in the proper libraries automatically. * DSSS can transparently build libraries from any D package. * DSSS automatically generates .di (D import) files for libraries which cause code using the library to link it in automatically. * Since DSSS uses bud, DSSS has all of bud's features as well. * DSSS can automatically choose names for libraries generated from D packages which will not conflict with libraries from other sources, or incompatible compilers. So you do not need to concern yourself with library names. Installation ------------ As compared to building software, there are few tools capable of installing D software well. * DSSS maintains a centralized repository of installed software, such that you can use it in your software trivially. .di files and library files are all managed by DSSS, as part of its effort to make imports map to library files automatically. * DSSS keeps track of all of the software that has been installed through DSSS, so any of it can be uninstalled easily. Configuration ------------- DSSS' build configuration file (dsss.conf) allows full use of version statements from D. So, you can fine-tune your software to build precisely what is necessary for the host system. Acquisition ----------- In the spirit of Perl's CPAN or Ruby's Gems, DSSS has a central repository of sources for D software. It maintains a list of software packages available, where they can be acquired, and what packages/modules they provide. Because it maintains a list of packages and modules, dependencies for a tool can be installed as easily as: $ dsss net deps DSSS will then trace all of the software's D dependencies and install them. This feature can of course also be used to install arbitrary software, such as: $ dsss net install mango Upon either of these commands, DSSS will download the software from its upstream source, compile it, and install it. More Information ---------------- DSSS is available from http://www.dsource.org/projects/dsss . It is FOSS (Free/Open Source Software) under a very permissive license. Its development code base is maintained in subversion and can be checked out from the following URL: http://svn.dsource.org/projects/dsss/trunk DSSS has been tested and is known to work with GDC on Posix systems, and with DMD on Windows. It has not been tested with GDC on Windows or DMD on GNU/Linux. At present, the following software is installable via DSSS: bcd.gen bintod ddbi derelict dirclib dool dsss dstring duit gdc-gcc-3.4 gdc-gcc-4.0 mango wxd To add your own software, configure it to use DSSS (technically you don't have to, but it'd help ... ) then submit the information to me, and I'll add it. - Gregor Richards
Nov 09 2006
This is exactly what D needed. For reference, I've always found that Python's way of doing it is also cool. distutils (shipped with Python) can generate a wide number of distribution packages: UNIX tar balls, DEBs, RPMs, ZIPs and even Windows Installer MSIs. Then we have things like CPAN and Ruby Gems. If you need a library, you just work out which one you want, and tell the system to install it. A few suggestions: * Have a way to take a package, and generate distribution files. This would allow maintainers to use DSSS to generate distro media for other formats. * Corollary to the above, make it possible to generate a distribution both with and without dependencies. This could allow application developers to leverage DSSS to build complete installers for their programs without having to worry about finding and building all of the libraries, and the libraries they depend on, etc. Again, for comparison, Python's py2exe can be used to do this, and is VERY cool. Thank you so much for writing this. Downloading now :) -- Daniel -- Unlike Knuth, I have neither proven or tried the above; it may not even make sense. v2sw5+8Yhw5ln4+5pr6OFPma8u6+7Lw4Tm6+7l6+7D i28a2Xs3MSr2e4/6+7t4TNSMb6HTOp5en5g6RAHCP http://hackerkey.com/
Nov 09 2006
Daniel Keep wrote:This is exactly what D needed. For reference, I've always found that Python's way of doing it is also cool. distutils (shipped with Python) can generate a wide number of distribution packages: UNIX tar balls, DEBs, RPMs, ZIPs and even Windows Installer MSIs. Then we have things like CPAN and Ruby Gems. If you need a library, you just work out which one you want, and tell the system to install it. A few suggestions: * Have a way to take a package, and generate distribution files. This would allow maintainers to use DSSS to generate distro media for other formats. * Corollary to the above, make it possible to generate a distribution both with and without dependencies. This could allow application developers to leverage DSSS to build complete installers for their programs without having to worry about finding and building all of the libraries, and the libraries they depend on, etc. Again, for comparison, Python's py2exe can be used to do this, and is VERY cool. Thank you so much for writing this. Downloading now :) -- DanielAn excellent idea. I'll put it on "The List." - Gregor Richards
Nov 09 2006
Gregor Richards wrote:I have just released the first (alpha-ish) version of DSSS, the D Shared Software System. It definitely still has some bugs, but it's at a point where I need to see if anybody actually will use it :)*raises hand* Nice work! Sean
Nov 09 2006
Gregor Richards wrote:I have just released the first (alpha-ish) version of DSSS, the D Shared Software System. It definitely still has some bugs, but it's at a point where I need to see if anybody actually will use it :) Most notable bug is that its installation scheme is a bit rigid right now. It's on "the list." DSSS is described fully below, but up-front I will mention that part of DSSS' purpose is to provide an analogue to Perl's CPAN or Ruby's Gems. DSSS is available from http://www.dsource.org/projects/dsss . Here's everything you need to know: The D Shared Software System ---------------------------- DSSS, the D Shared Software System, is a tool to ease the building, installation, configuration and acquisition of D software. Building -------- There are plenty of tools for building D software. There's bud (previously build), upon which DSSS is based, the antiquated make, and a plethora of other tools capable of building D software. DSSS intends to be more generally useful than any of them. * DSSS eliminates the need to keep lists of source files, figuring them all out by imports in source. It will even link in the proper libraries automatically. * DSSS can transparently build libraries from any D package. * DSSS automatically generates .di (D import) files for libraries which cause code using the library to link it in automatically. * Since DSSS uses bud, DSSS has all of bud's features as well. * DSSS can automatically choose names for libraries generated from D packages which will not conflict with libraries from other sources, or incompatible compilers. So you do not need to concern yourself with library names. Installation ------------ As compared to building software, there are few tools capable of installing D software well. * DSSS maintains a centralized repository of installed software, such that you can use it in your software trivially. .di files and library files are all managed by DSSS, as part of its effort to make imports map to library files automatically. * DSSS keeps track of all of the software that has been installed through DSSS, so any of it can be uninstalled easily. Configuration ------------- DSSS' build configuration file (dsss.conf) allows full use of version statements from D. So, you can fine-tune your software to build precisely what is necessary for the host system. Acquisition ----------- In the spirit of Perl's CPAN or Ruby's Gems, DSSS has a central repository of sources for D software. It maintains a list of software packages available, where they can be acquired, and what packages/modules they provide. Because it maintains a list of packages and modules, dependencies for a tool can be installed as easily as: $ dsss net deps DSSS will then trace all of the software's D dependencies and install them. This feature can of course also be used to install arbitrary software, such as: $ dsss net install mango Upon either of these commands, DSSS will download the software from its upstream source, compile it, and install it. More Information ---------------- DSSS is available from http://www.dsource.org/projects/dsss . It is FOSS (Free/Open Source Software) under a very permissive license. Its development code base is maintained in subversion and can be checked out from the following URL: http://svn.dsource.org/projects/dsss/trunk DSSS has been tested and is known to work with GDC on Posix systems, and with DMD on Windows. It has not been tested with GDC on Windows or DMD on GNU/Linux. At present, the following software is installable via DSSS: bcd.gen bintod ddbi derelict dirclib dool dsss dstring duit gdc-gcc-3.4 gdc-gcc-4.0 mango wxd To add your own software, configure it to use DSSS (technically you don't have to, but it'd help ... ) then submit the information to me, and I'll add it. - Gregor RichardsVery nice indeed! I do some work with Ruby and do love the Gems system. I do some work with PHP, and there we have PEAR, also quite nice. And of course there's always Gentoo... sure, yes, its an operating system, but its 'emerge' is a godsend sometimes. Its heartening to think I can now have the option of similar functionality in D. Good going. -- Chris Nicholson-Sauls
Nov 09 2006
"Gregor Richards" <Richards codu.org> wrote in message news:ej0vcu$2cm7$1 digitaldaemon.com...The D Shared Software System ---------------------------- DSSS, the D Shared Software System, is a tool to ease the building, installation, configuration and acquisition of D software.Fantastic! I'll be sure to check it out and try to get MiniD / nonagon on it (eventually!).
Nov 09 2006
Gregor Richards wrote:I have just released the first (alpha-ish) version of DSSS, the D Shared Software System. It definitely still has some bugs, but it's at a point where I need to see if anybody actually will use it :)Excellent! Good work! Looking forward to trying it out. --bb
Nov 09 2006
Gregor Richards wrote:Totally cool! Really shows the maturing process of the language. Want to see it in D's standard package. -- AKhropov
Nov 10 2006
Gregor Richards wrote:I have just released the first (alpha-ish) version of DSSS, the D Shared Software System. It definitely still has some bugs, but it's at a point where I need to see if anybody actually will use it :)This is definitely what D needs! I will try it, but if it works like you described - that be it. Keep up this fantastic idea.
Nov 11 2006
Gregor Richards wrote:I have just released the first (alpha-ish) version of DSSS, the D Shared Software System. It definitely still has some bugs, but it's at a point where I need to see if anybody actually will use it :) Most notable bug is that its installation scheme is a bit rigid right now. It's on "the list." DSSS is described fully below, but up-front I will mention that part of DSSS' purpose is to provide an analogue to Perl's CPAN or Ruby's Gems. DSSS is available from http://www.dsource.org/projects/dsss . Here's everything you need to know: The D Shared Software System ---------------------------- DSSS, the D Shared Software System, is a tool to ease the building, installation, configuration and acquisition of D software. Building -------- There are plenty of tools for building D software. There's bud (previously build), upon which DSSS is based, the antiquated make, and a plethora of other tools capable of building D software. DSSS intends to be more generally useful than any of them. * DSSS eliminates the need to keep lists of source files, figuring them all out by imports in source. It will even link in the proper libraries automatically. * DSSS can transparently build libraries from any D package. * DSSS automatically generates .di (D import) files for libraries which cause code using the library to link it in automatically. * Since DSSS uses bud, DSSS has all of bud's features as well. * DSSS can automatically choose names for libraries generated from D packages which will not conflict with libraries from other sources, or incompatible compilers. So you do not need to concern yourself with library names. Installation ------------ As compared to building software, there are few tools capable of installing D software well. * DSSS maintains a centralized repository of installed software, such that you can use it in your software trivially. .di files and library files are all managed by DSSS, as part of its effort to make imports map to library files automatically. * DSSS keeps track of all of the software that has been installed through DSSS, so any of it can be uninstalled easily. Configuration ------------- DSSS' build configuration file (dsss.conf) allows full use of version statements from D. So, you can fine-tune your software to build precisely what is necessary for the host system. Acquisition ----------- In the spirit of Perl's CPAN or Ruby's Gems, DSSS has a central repository of sources for D software. It maintains a list of software packages available, where they can be acquired, and what packages/modules they provide. Because it maintains a list of packages and modules, dependencies for a tool can be installed as easily as: $ dsss net deps DSSS will then trace all of the software's D dependencies and install them. This feature can of course also be used to install arbitrary software, such as: $ dsss net install mango Upon either of these commands, DSSS will download the software from its upstream source, compile it, and install it. More Information ---------------- DSSS is available from http://www.dsource.org/projects/dsss . It is FOSS (Free/Open Source Software) under a very permissive license. Its development code base is maintained in subversion and can be checked out from the following URL: http://svn.dsource.org/projects/dsss/trunk DSSS has been tested and is known to work with GDC on Posix systems, and with DMD on Windows. It has not been tested with GDC on Windows or DMD on GNU/Linux. At present, the following software is installable via DSSS: bcd.gen bintod ddbi derelict dirclib dool dsss dstring duit gdc-gcc-3.4 gdc-gcc-4.0 mango wxd To add your own software, configure it to use DSSS (technically you don't have to, but it'd help ... ) then submit the information to me, and I'll add it. - Gregor RichardsI would be happy to plug my libraries into this once I have a release version ready for the public. This is fantastic.
Nov 11 2006
Gregor Richards wrote:DSSS is available from http://www.dsource.org/projects/dsss .Could somebody drop me the source, because I just can't wait when dsource will come back? :)
Nov 11 2006
Dawid Ciężarkiewicz wrote:Gregor Richards wrote:http://www.codu.org/dsss-0.1/ Note that the net sources list is hosted on DSource, so you'll find that the net feature doesn't work at all :P I'm going to add redundancy support to that whole subsystem, but it's not there yet. - Gregor RichardsDSSS is available from http://www.dsource.org/projects/dsss .Could somebody drop me the source, because I just can't wait when dsource will come back? :)
Nov 11 2006
Gregor Richards wrote:Dawid Ciężarkiewicz wrote:I get the following message when trying to access that link: FORBIDDEN You tried to access a document for which you don't have privileges.Gregor Richards wrote:http://www.codu.org/dsss-0.1/ Note that the net sources list is hosted on DSource, so you'll find that the net feature doesn't work at all :P I'm going to add redundancy support to that whole subsystem, but it's not there yet. - Gregor RichardsDSSS is available from http://www.dsource.org/projects/dsss .Could somebody drop me the source, because I just can't wait when dsource will come back? :)
Nov 12 2006
Anders Bergh wrote:Gregor Richards wrote:Oy, oops X_X Fixed, forgot to add the .htaccess. - Gregor RichardsDawid Ciężarkiewicz wrote:I get the following message when trying to access that link: FORBIDDEN You tried to access a document for which you don't have privileges.Gregor Richards wrote:http://www.codu.org/dsss-0.1/ Note that the net sources list is hosted on DSource, so you'll find that the net feature doesn't work at all :P I'm going to add redundancy support to that whole subsystem, but it's not there yet. - Gregor RichardsDSSS is available from http://www.dsource.org/projects/dsss .Could somebody drop me the source, because I just can't wait when dsource will come back? :)
Nov 12 2006
Gregor Richards wrote:I have just released the first (alpha-ish) version of DSSS, the D Shared Software System. It definitely still has some bugs, but it's at a point where I need to see if anybody actually will use it :) Most notable bug is that its installation scheme is a bit rigid right now. It's on "the list." DSSS is described fully below, but up-front I will mention that part of DSSS' purpose is to provide an analogue to Perl's CPAN or Ruby's Gems. DSSS is available from http://www.dsource.org/projects/dsss . Here's everything you need to know: The D Shared Software System ---------------------------- DSSS, the D Shared Software System, is a tool to ease the building, installation, configuration and acquisition of D software. Building -------- There are plenty of tools for building D software. There's bud (previously build), upon which DSSS is based, the antiquated make, and a plethora of other tools capable of building D software. DSSS intends to be more generally useful than any of them. * DSSS eliminates the need to keep lists of source files, figuring them all out by imports in source. It will even link in the proper libraries automatically. * DSSS can transparently build libraries from any D package. * DSSS automatically generates .di (D import) files for libraries which cause code using the library to link it in automatically. * Since DSSS uses bud, DSSS has all of bud's features as well. * DSSS can automatically choose names for libraries generated from D packages which will not conflict with libraries from other sources, or incompatible compilers. So you do not need to concern yourself with library names. Installation ------------ As compared to building software, there are few tools capable of installing D software well. * DSSS maintains a centralized repository of installed software, such that you can use it in your software trivially. .di files and library files are all managed by DSSS, as part of its effort to make imports map to library files automatically. * DSSS keeps track of all of the software that has been installed through DSSS, so any of it can be uninstalled easily. Configuration ------------- DSSS' build configuration file (dsss.conf) allows full use of version statements from D. So, you can fine-tune your software to build precisely what is necessary for the host system. Acquisition ----------- In the spirit of Perl's CPAN or Ruby's Gems, DSSS has a central repository of sources for D software. It maintains a list of software packages available, where they can be acquired, and what packages/modules they provide. Because it maintains a list of packages and modules, dependencies for a tool can be installed as easily as: $ dsss net deps DSSS will then trace all of the software's D dependencies and install them. This feature can of course also be used to install arbitrary software, such as: $ dsss net install mango Upon either of these commands, DSSS will download the software from its upstream source, compile it, and install it. More Information ---------------- DSSS is available from http://www.dsource.org/projects/dsss . It is FOSS (Free/Open Source Software) under a very permissive license. Its development code base is maintained in subversion and can be checked out from the following URL: http://svn.dsource.org/projects/dsss/trunk DSSS has been tested and is known to work with GDC on Posix systems, and with DMD on Windows. It has not been tested with GDC on Windows or DMD on GNU/Linux. At present, the following software is installable via DSSS: bcd.gen bintod ddbi derelict dirclib dool dsss dstring duit gdc-gcc-3.4 gdc-gcc-4.0 mango wxd To add your own software, configure it to use DSSS (technically you don't have to, but it'd help ... ) then submit the information to me, and I'll add it. - Gregor RichardsIs there some sort of manual available for this? I'm not quite sure how I am supposed to use it. Thanks. ~ Clay
Nov 13 2006
clayasaurus wrote:Gregor Richards wrote:There's a docs directory with READMEs, but not for the basic use yet - dsss help should tell you most of what you need to know to just build stuff. If you actually want to configure your software to use DSSS, read docs/README.software_engineer - Gregor RichardsI have just released the first (alpha-ish) version of DSSS, the D Shared Software System. It definitely still has some bugs, but it's at a point where I need to see if anybody actually will use it :) Most notable bug is that its installation scheme is a bit rigid right now. It's on "the list." DSSS is described fully below, but up-front I will mention that part of DSSS' purpose is to provide an analogue to Perl's CPAN or Ruby's Gems. DSSS is available from http://www.dsource.org/projects/dsss . Here's everything you need to know: The D Shared Software System ---------------------------- DSSS, the D Shared Software System, is a tool to ease the building, installation, configuration and acquisition of D software. Building -------- There are plenty of tools for building D software. There's bud (previously build), upon which DSSS is based, the antiquated make, and a plethora of other tools capable of building D software. DSSS intends to be more generally useful than any of them. * DSSS eliminates the need to keep lists of source files, figuring them all out by imports in source. It will even link in the proper libraries automatically. * DSSS can transparently build libraries from any D package. * DSSS automatically generates .di (D import) files for libraries which cause code using the library to link it in automatically. * Since DSSS uses bud, DSSS has all of bud's features as well. * DSSS can automatically choose names for libraries generated from D packages which will not conflict with libraries from other sources, or incompatible compilers. So you do not need to concern yourself with library names. Installation ------------ As compared to building software, there are few tools capable of installing D software well. * DSSS maintains a centralized repository of installed software, such that you can use it in your software trivially. .di files and library files are all managed by DSSS, as part of its effort to make imports map to library files automatically. * DSSS keeps track of all of the software that has been installed through DSSS, so any of it can be uninstalled easily. Configuration ------------- DSSS' build configuration file (dsss.conf) allows full use of version statements from D. So, you can fine-tune your software to build precisely what is necessary for the host system. Acquisition ----------- In the spirit of Perl's CPAN or Ruby's Gems, DSSS has a central repository of sources for D software. It maintains a list of software packages available, where they can be acquired, and what packages/modules they provide. Because it maintains a list of packages and modules, dependencies for a tool can be installed as easily as: $ dsss net deps DSSS will then trace all of the software's D dependencies and install them. This feature can of course also be used to install arbitrary software, such as: $ dsss net install mango Upon either of these commands, DSSS will download the software from its upstream source, compile it, and install it. More Information ---------------- DSSS is available from http://www.dsource.org/projects/dsss . It is FOSS (Free/Open Source Software) under a very permissive license. Its development code base is maintained in subversion and can be checked out from the following URL: http://svn.dsource.org/projects/dsss/trunk DSSS has been tested and is known to work with GDC on Posix systems, and with DMD on Windows. It has not been tested with GDC on Windows or DMD on GNU/Linux. At present, the following software is installable via DSSS: bcd.gen bintod ddbi derelict dirclib dool dsss dstring duit gdc-gcc-3.4 gdc-gcc-4.0 mango wxd To add your own software, configure it to use DSSS (technically you don't have to, but it'd help ... ) then submit the information to me, and I'll add it. - Gregor RichardsIs there some sort of manual available for this? I'm not quite sure how I am supposed to use it. Thanks. ~ Clay
Nov 13 2006