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reply "Yuxuan Shui" <yshuiv7 gmail.com> writes:
Hi,

I'm working on a project that mixes both C and D code, and does 
code generation as well.

I've been using a shell script to hack this together, since I 
can't figure out how to do this with dub.

Now I'm looking for a proper build system for building this 
project. reggae (https://github.com/atilaneves/reggae) seems to 
be promising, but it has bugs with indirect dependencies and 
failed to build my project. I have come across cmake-d and a 
modified version of cmake 
(https://github.com/trentforkert/cmake). I haven't tested them 
yet, because neither of them is updated recently, and I don't 
know if I should invest time in them.

So I want to know what is the current status of those build 
systems? Are they abandoned or still actively developed? And are 
there any other build systems I should look into?

Thanks.

---
Regards,
Yuxuan Shui
Jul 30 2015
next sibling parent reply "Mike Parker" <aldacron gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 31 July 2015 at 00:13:42 UTC, Yuxuan Shui wrote:


 are there any other build systems I should look into?


Premake [1] supports mixing languages in the same build script. 
It's not a build tool itself, but can generate makefiles and IDE 
projects. Manu [2] maintains extensions for D support.

[1] https://premake.github.io/
[2] https://github.com/premake/premake-dlang
Jul 30 2015
parent reply "Yuxuan Shui" <yshuiv7 gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 31 July 2015 at 02:00:41 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:

 On Friday, 31 July 2015 at 00:13:42 UTC, Yuxuan Shui wrote:


 are there any other build systems I should look into?


 Premake [1] supports mixing languages in the same build script. 
 It's not a build tool itself, but can generate makefiles and 
 IDE projects. Manu [2] maintains extensions for D support.

 [1] https://premake.github.io/
 [2] https://github.com/premake/premake-dlang


It seems premake-dlang is not capable of fetch dub packages, is 
that correct?
Jul 30 2015
parent Manu via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
On 31 July 2015 at 13:20, Yuxuan Shui via Digitalmars-d
<digitalmars-d puremagic.com> wrote:

 On Friday, 31 July 2015 at 02:00:41 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:

 On Friday, 31 July 2015 at 00:13:42 UTC, Yuxuan Shui wrote:


 are there any other build systems I should look into?


 Premake [1] supports mixing languages in the same build script. It's not a
 build tool itself, but can generate makefiles and IDE projects. Manu [2]
 maintains extensions for D support.

 [1] https://premake.github.io/
 [2] https://github.com/premake/premake-dlang



 It seems premake-dlang is not capable of fetch dub packages, is that
 correct?


In that it doesn't have a special command to fetch dub packages, that
is true. Premake projects are expressed with a scripting language
though (Lua), so it's very easy to execute dub commands to fetch
packages as part of your script if that's what you want to do.

I haven't received any interest in built-in dub integration, but it's
theoretically possible to make a built-in solution for fetching dub
packages as part of the process quite easily.
Using dub as a build system though is off the table though if you mix
languages. It may be useful as a package manager, but generating
standard makefiles for the multi-language build is necessary.
Jul 31 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent "Atila Neves" <atila.neves gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 31 July 2015 at 00:13:42 UTC, Yuxuan Shui wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm working on a project that mixes both C and D code, and does 
 code generation as well.

 [...]


I'll get that bug fixed soon. I planned on doing it today but ran 
out of time.

Atila
Jul 31 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent "Steven Dwy" <yoplitein gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 31 July 2015 at 00:13:42 UTC, Yuxuan Shui wrote:

 I have come across cmake-d and a modified version of cmake 
 (https://github.com/trentforkert/cmake). I haven't tested them 
 yet, because neither of them is updated recently, and I don't 
 know if I should invest time in them.


I'm not sure about cmake-d. I think dcarp stated somewhere that 
he wasn't actively using D any more, or something to that effect.

The fork of CMake is still active. Trentforkert said he is just 
waiting for things to progress in the D ecosystem before 
continuing work. (Mostly related to shared libraries.)

If you're willing to build and use the fork (it's actually really 
easy,) then you can use the CMake generator I wrote for dub a few 
months back. Simply run `dub generate cmake` and it will spit out 
build scripts for your project and all of its dependencies.
Jul 31 2015
prev sibling parent reply "Trent Forkert" <trentforkert+d gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 31 July 2015 at 00:13:42 UTC, Yuxuan Shui wrote:

 I have come across cmake-d and a modified version of cmake 
 (https://github.com/trentforkert/cmake).


Oh hey, that's me!


 I haven't tested them yet, because neither of them is
 updated recently, and I don't know if I should invest time
 in them.


I've got a handful of work-in-progress changes I've yet to push 
publicly, and even more I've yet to commit. (Yes, I have weird 
work habits.)


 So I want to know what is the current status of those build 
 systems?


I'm still around, and I fix bugs when they get in my way or 
someone else complains.


 Are they abandoned


No. Neglected, but not abandoned.


 or still actively developed?


If I can find the time (and the files, which hopefully survived a 
recent Linux distro-switch), I'll see about cleaning up and 
publishing the additional changes I have soon, and getting things 
on to a more recent version of CMake.

As Steven Dwy said, I put the project on a bit of a hiatus while 
waiting for shared lib support to be ironed out (specifically, 
the behavior of `export`). Part of my unpublished changes 
includes a change that renders my previous concerns on that front 
solved regardless of what becomes of `export`. I would still like 
to be able to run tests for building shared libraries, and I 
won't even consider upstreaming until I can. Like I said though, 
I'll deal with bug reports if you file them.

  - Trent Forkert
Jul 31 2015
parent reply "Yuxuan Shui" <yshuiv7 gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 31 July 2015 at 22:40:25 UTC, Trent Forkert wrote:

 On Friday, 31 July 2015 at 00:13:42 UTC, Yuxuan Shui wrote:

 [...]


 Oh hey, that's me!


 [...]


 I've got a handful of work-in-progress changes I've yet to push 
 publicly, and even more I've yet to commit. (Yes, I have weird 
 work habits.)

 [...]


Hi, I just want to let you know I've tried to build my project 
with your cmake fork, and it worked like a charm :)

Good to hear it's still alive. Let's hope the situation about 
shared libraries can improve and you can move on.


 [...]
Jul 31 2015
parent "lobo" <swamplobo gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 31 July 2015 at 23:59:07 UTC, Yuxuan Shui wrote:

 On Friday, 31 July 2015 at 22:40:25 UTC, Trent Forkert wrote:

 On Friday, 31 July 2015 at 00:13:42 UTC, Yuxuan Shui wrote:

 [...]


 Oh hey, that's me!


 [...]


 I've got a handful of work-in-progress changes I've yet to 
 push publicly, and even more I've yet to commit. (Yes, I have 
 weird work habits.)

 [...]


 Hi, I just want to let you know I've tried to build my project 
 with your cmake fork, and it worked like a charm :)

 Good to hear it's still alive. Let's hope the situation about 
 shared libraries can improve and you can move on.


 [...]




I use CMake on mixed C/D projects and dub for D-only projects. On 
one project I'm using CMake to invoke dub to keep the D libs up 
to date and no another I invoke CMake from dub to build the C 
cruft.

I find both work extremely well and are much better than shell 
scripts or plain Makefile bashing.

bye,
lobo
Jul 31 2015