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reply "Paul D Anderson" <claude.rains msn.com> writes:
I'm waiting to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 to avoid the 
inevitable just-released bugs, but does anyone have any info 
about D on Windows 10? Has anyone tried it?

p.s. Please don't tell me how much better your favorite operating 
system is than Windows. Thank you. :)
Jul 31 2015
next sibling parent reply "Idan Arye" <GenericNPC gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 31 July 2015 at 22:02:13 UTC, Paul D Anderson wrote:

 I'm waiting to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 to avoid 
 the inevitable just-released bugs, but does anyone have any 
 info about D on Windows 10? Has anyone tried it?

 p.s. Please don't tell me how much better your favorite 
 operating system is than Windows. Thank you. :)


A quick Google search points me to this article: 
http://www.howtogeek.com/219782/is-windows-10-backwards-compatible-with-your-existing-software/

It says Windows 10 should be able to run any application that 
runs on Windows 7 - though it does say that Windows 10 removed 
Desktop Gadgets, so if your program is one of those it probably 
won't work. Than again - I doubt there are any Windows Desktop 
Gadgets written in D...
Jul 31 2015
parent "jmh530" <john.michael.hall gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 31 July 2015 at 22:47:44 UTC, Idan Arye wrote:

 A quick Google search points me to this article: 
 http://www.howtogeek.com/219782/is-windows-10-backwards-compatible-with-your-existing-software/



My understanding as well. I was thinking of upgrading one of my 
computers this weekend to try it out. I don't foresee any issues 
with respect to DMD.
Jul 31 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent "Joseph Cassman" <jc7919 outlook.com> writes:
On Friday, 31 July 2015 at 22:02:13 UTC, Paul D Anderson wrote:

 I'm waiting to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 to avoid 
 the inevitable just-released bugs, but does anyone have any 
 info about D on Windows 10? Has anyone tried it?

 p.s. Please don't tell me how much better your favorite 
 operating system is than Windows. Thank you. :)


I'm successfully using DMD 2.068.0-b2 with VS 2013u5 to get a 
64-bit build environment on Windows 10. I have not tested other 
environment setups but have had no difficulties so far.

Joseph
Jul 31 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Jonathan M Davis" <jmdavisProg gmx.com> writes:
On Friday, 31 July 2015 at 22:02:13 UTC, Paul D Anderson wrote:

 I'm waiting to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 to avoid 
 the inevitable just-released bugs, but does anyone have any 
 info about D on Windows 10? Has anyone tried it?


We probably should have done more testing on it, but at least in 
theory, programs compiled on at least Windows 7 or 8 should work 
on 10. They haven't done as good a job with it in recent years, 
but backwards compatibility is kind of Microsoft's thing and part 
of why many folks use Windows.

But regardless, if you find bugs in dmd or Phobos or anything of 
the sort which show up specifically on Windows 10, please report 
them: https://issues.dlang.org


 p.s. Please don't tell me how much better your favorite 
 operating system is than Windows. Thank you. :)


Wait, what if someone's favorite OS _was_ Windows. If they 
started talking about how much better Windows was than Windows, 
would that create some kind of paradox? ;)

You know, it would be _really_ cool if there were an OS out there 
that was fully compliant with both the POSIX standard and 
ecosystem and the Win32 API such that you could run KDE, gnome, 
bash, zsh, etc. on it just like on Linux/FreeBSD/etc. _and_ run 
Windows programs on it - all as native applications. A total pipe 
dream really, but _man_ would that be cool...

- Jonathan M Davis
Jul 31 2015
next sibling parent reply "Kagamin" <spam here.lot> writes:
On Saturday, 1 August 2015 at 04:25:07 UTC, Jonathan M Davis 
wrote:

 You know, it would be _really_ cool if there were an OS out 
 there that was fully compliant with both the POSIX standard and 
 ecosystem and the Win32 API such that you could run KDE, gnome, 
 bash, zsh, etc. on it just like on Linux/FreeBSD/etc. _and_ run 
 Windows programs on it - all as native applications. A total 
 pipe dream really, but _man_ would that be cool...


Windows does have a posix subsystem: 
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc772343.aspx
Aug 03 2015
parent reply "Tofu Ninja" <emmons0 purdue.edu> writes:
On Monday, 3 August 2015 at 10:37:43 UTC, Kagamin wrote:

 On Saturday, 1 August 2015 at 04:25:07 UTC, Jonathan M Davis 
 wrote:

 You know, it would be _really_ cool if there were an OS out 
 there that was fully compliant with both the POSIX standard 
 and ecosystem and the Win32 API such that you could run KDE, 
 gnome, bash, zsh, etc. on it just like on Linux/FreeBSD/etc. 
 _and_ run Windows programs on it - all as native applications. 
 A total pipe dream really, but _man_ would that be cool...


 Windows does have a posix subsystem: 
 https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc772343.aspx


How well does that work?
Aug 03 2015
parent "Kagamin" <spam here.lot> writes:
On Monday, 3 August 2015 at 14:43:00 UTC, Tofu Ninja wrote:

 How well does that work?


Well, if it exists in the first place, I suppose, it has some 
sizable users?
Aug 03 2015
prev sibling parent reply Patrick Schluter <Patrick.Schluter bbox.fr> writes:
On Saturday, 1 August 2015 at 04:25:07 UTC, Jonathan M Davis 
wrote:

 On Friday, 31 July 2015 at 22:02:13 UTC, Paul D Anderson wrote:

 I'm waiting to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 to avoid 
 the inevitable just-released bugs, but does anyone have any 
 info about D on Windows 10? Has anyone tried it?


 We probably should have done more testing on it, but at least 
 in theory, programs compiled on at least Windows 7 or 8 should 
 work on 10. They haven't done as good a job with it in recent 
 years, but backwards compatibility is kind of Microsoft's thing 
 and part of why many folks use Windows.

 But regardless, if you find bugs in dmd or Phobos or anything 
 of the sort which show up specifically on Windows 10, please 
 report them: https://issues.dlang.org


 p.s. Please don't tell me how much better your favorite 
 operating system is than Windows. Thank you. :)


 Wait, what if someone's favorite OS _was_ Windows. If they 
 started talking about how much better Windows was than Windows, 
 would that create some kind of paradox? ;)

 You know, it would be _really_ cool if there were an OS out 
 there that was fully compliant with both the POSIX standard and 
 ecosystem and the Win32 API such that you could run KDE, gnome, 
 bash, zsh, etc. on it just like on Linux/FreeBSD/etc. _and_ run 
 Windows programs on it - all as native applications. A total 
 pipe dream really, but _man_ would that be cool...


Sarcasm or just that you didn't know about WSL (Windows subsystem 
for Linux) on windows 10.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10

It's supposed to be able to run Linux app natively on windows 10. 
bash as shell and much more.

As for windows 10, I just got one of our new laptops at work (EU 
Commission) with it, but because of the very restrictive IT 
policies we have (no local admin, impossible to run uninstalled 
exe's) I cannot tell if dmd or anything compiling exe's work.
Jan 05 2019
next sibling parent ezneh <petitv.isat gmail.com> writes:
On Saturday, 5 January 2019 at 14:05:48 UTC, Patrick Schluter 
wrote:

 On Saturday, 1 August 2015 at 04:25:07 UTC, Jonathan M Davis 
 wrote:

[...]


 Sarcasm or just that you didn't know about WSL (Windows 
 subsystem for Linux) on windows 10.
 https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10

 It's supposed to be able to run Linux app natively on windows 
 10. bash as shell and much more.

 As for windows 10, I just got one of our new laptops at work 
 (EU Commission) with it, but because of the very restrictive IT 
 policies we have (no local admin, impossible to run uninstalled 
 exe's) I cannot tell if dmd or anything compiling exe's work.


It works as you can see here: https://i.imgur.com/24AKmO3.png

You can basically compile D on WSL for Windows or Linux if you 
have the compilers installed.
Jan 05 2019
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Neia Neutuladh <neia ikeran.org> writes:
On Sat, 05 Jan 2019 14:05:48 +0000, Patrick Schluter wrote:

 On Saturday, 1 August 2015 at 04:25:07 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:

 You know, it would be _really_ cool if there were an OS out there that
 was fully compliant with both the POSIX standard and ecosystem and the
 Win32 API such that you could run KDE, gnome,
 bash, zsh, etc. on it just like on Linux/FreeBSD/etc. _and_ run Windows
 programs on it - all as native applications. A total pipe dream really,
 but _man_ would that be cool...


 Sarcasm or just that you didn't know about WSL (Windows subsystem for
 Linux) on windows 10.
 https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10
 
 It's supposed to be able to run Linux app natively on windows 10.
 bash as shell and much more.


There's no way to run KDE or GNOME with it instead of the native shell, 
though. If you succeeded, you wouldn't be able to run native Windows 
applications inside. I ran into this problem running GNOME on OSX.

And as a nitpick, Linux isn't fully POSIX compliant.
Jan 05 2019
parent Manu <turkeyman gmail.com> writes:
On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 10:15 AM Neia Neutuladh via Digitalmars-d
<digitalmars-d puremagic.com> wrote:

 On Sat, 05 Jan 2019 14:05:48 +0000, Patrick Schluter wrote:

 On Saturday, 1 August 2015 at 04:25:07 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:

 You know, it would be _really_ cool if there were an OS out there that
 was fully compliant with both the POSIX standard and ecosystem and the
 Win32 API such that you could run KDE, gnome,
 bash, zsh, etc. on it just like on Linux/FreeBSD/etc. _and_ run Windows
 programs on it - all as native applications. A total pipe dream really,
 but _man_ would that be cool...


 Sarcasm or just that you didn't know about WSL (Windows subsystem for
 Linux) on windows 10.
 https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10

 It's supposed to be able to run Linux app natively on windows 10.
 bash as shell and much more.


 There's no way to run KDE or GNOME with it instead of the native shell,
 though. If you succeeded, you wouldn't be able to run native Windows
 applications inside. I ran into this problem running GNOME on OSX.

 And as a nitpick, Linux isn't fully POSIX compliant.


I run windowed linux software from WSL... just run a windows XServer.
Apparently you can run KDE/Gnome... but I'm not sure why you would.
Just let the applications create their own windows in the Windows
environment.
Jan 05 2019
prev sibling parent Anonymouse <asdf asdf.net> writes:
On Saturday, 5 January 2019 at 14:05:48 UTC, Patrick Schluter 
wrote:

 [...]


2015 necroposts? :3

On topic, I'm a Linux creature but I keep a Windows box around 
for various purposes.

1. No dmd64 download. Yes, dmd32 can build 64-bit code, but 
that's academical when it runs out of addressable memory and 
crashes. I'm currently downloading AppVeyor dmd.exe build 
artifacts; still wonder why the dlang.org download page doesn't 
offer links to those at the very least (compare with RPCS3 
downloads[1]). I fail to understand the reasoning here. It's not 
like excessive memory use isn't one of the things plaguing D.

2. Windows Defender/SafeScreen/something or another pauses. 
Downloading and running the dmd installer can take a minute or 
two as it presumably calls home to ask if it's okay to run.

3. Not dmd's fault, but no SSL libs for use with dlang-requests 
without falling back to downloading an installer from some shady 
site.

4. Something something vscode. I've been having more issues with 
it failing to compile code-d than on the Linux machines. That was 
before the fundraiser push though, likely it has improved since.

[1]: https://rpcs3.net/download
Jan 08 2019
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "John Chapman" <johnch_atms hotmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 31 July 2015 at 22:02:13 UTC, Paul D Anderson wrote:

 I'm waiting to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 to avoid 
 the inevitable just-released bugs, but does anyone have any 
 info about D on Windows 10? Has anyone tried it?


I'm on Windows 10, and my DMD-built programs run just fine.
Aug 01 2015
parent reply "Etienne Cimon" <etcimon gmail.com> writes:
On Saturday, 1 August 2015 at 07:56:34 UTC, John Chapman wrote:

 On Friday, 31 July 2015 at 22:02:13 UTC, Paul D Anderson wrote:

 I'm waiting to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 to avoid 
 the inevitable just-released bugs, but does anyone have any 
 info about D on Windows 10? Has anyone tried it?


 I'm on Windows 10, and my DMD-built programs run just fine.


Did you get a sort of freeze on Win10 when trying to open some 
executables downloaded from the internet? I was annoyed a bit 
when re-downloading all my apps, the installer just appeared out 
of nowhere 5 minutes later.
Aug 02 2015
parent "rumbu" <rumbu rumbu.ro> writes:
On Monday, 3 August 2015 at 01:25:15 UTC, Etienne Cimon wrote

 Did you get a sort of freeze on Win10 when trying to open some 
 executables downloaded from the internet? I was annoyed a bit 
 when re-downloading all my apps, the installer just appeared 
 out of nowhere 5 minutes later.


This is probably your AV or Windows Defender.

Anyway, tested dmd on Win10, both flavours, 32 and 64 bit, no 
problems so far.
If you are using also VS2015, the paths in sc.ini must be updated 
to properly link mscoff executables.
Aug 02 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Timon Gehr <timon.gehr gmx.ch> writes:
On 08/01/2015 12:02 AM, Paul D Anderson wrote:

 p.s. Please don't tell me how much better your favorite operating system
 is than Windows. Thank you. :)


There are plenty operating systems that are not my favourite, yet still 
much better than Windows.
Aug 02 2015
parent reply "Tofu Ninja" <emmons0 purdue.edu> writes:
On Sunday, 2 August 2015 at 17:07:39 UTC, Timon Gehr wrote:

 On 08/01/2015 12:02 AM, Paul D Anderson wrote:

 p.s. Please don't tell me how much better your favorite 
 operating system
 is than Windows. Thank you. :)


 There are plenty operating systems that are not my favourite, 
 yet still much better than Windows.


Just couldn't restrain your self eh?
Aug 02 2015
parent Timon Gehr <timon.gehr gmx.ch> writes:
On 08/03/2015 02:04 AM, Tofu Ninja wrote:

 On Sunday, 2 August 2015 at 17:07:39 UTC, Timon Gehr wrote:

 On 08/01/2015 12:02 AM, Paul D Anderson wrote:

 p.s. Please don't tell me how much better your favorite operating system
 is than Windows. Thank you. :)


 There are plenty operating systems that are not my favourite, yet
 still much better than Windows.


 Just couldn't restrain your self eh?


Just pointing out a loophole.
Aug 02 2015
prev sibling parent greatsam4sure <greatsam4sure gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 31 July 2015 at 22:02:13 UTC, Paul D Anderson wrote:

 I'm waiting to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 to avoid 
 the inevitable just-released bugs, but does anyone have any 
 info about D on Windows 10? Has anyone tried it?

 p.s. Please don't tell me how much better your favorite 
 operating system is than Windows. Thank you. :)


I have being using dmd on windows 10. I have never encounter any 
problem.  That said,  I am not a pro in dlang. But it is working 
like a charm for me
Jan 08 2019