• Walter Bright (2/2) Jul 12 2018 as Python's BDFL.
• =?UTF-8?B?THXDrXM=?= Marques (2/3) Jul 12 2018 Don't get any ideas!
• Walter Bright (2/6) Jul 12 2018 I have no plans to resign until they carry me out in a box.
• H. S. Teoh (5/12) Jul 12 2018 +1 to that!
• Adam D. Ruppe (4/5) Jul 12 2018 That can be arranged.
• Steven Schveighoffer (3/12) Jul 13 2018 That's going to be my interpretive dance submission next year.
• 12345swordy (4/6) Jul 12 2018 There is controversy surrounding his opinions? I am out of the
• Meta (5/7) Jul 12 2018 I looked up PEP 572 and... *this* is what people are up in arms
• Russel Winder (30/40) Jul 13 2018 It isn't that simple. PEP 572 is contentious because this is Python and
• Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) (7/10) Jul 13 2018 Interesting.

Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:

as Python's BDFL.

https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-committers/2018-July/005664.html

=?UTF-8?B?THXDrXM=?= Marques <luis luismarques.eu> writes:

On Thursday, 12 July 2018 at 21:16:02 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 as Python's BDFL.

Don't get any ideas!

Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:

On 7/12/2018 2:22 PM, Luís Marques wrote:
 On Thursday, 12 July 2018 at 21:16:02 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 as Python's BDFL.

 
 Don't get any ideas!

I have no plans to resign until they carry me out in a box.

"H. S. Teoh" <hsteoh quickfur.ath.cx> writes:

On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 03:28:00PM -0700, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 On 7/12/2018 2:22 PM, Luís Marques wrote:
 On Thursday, 12 July 2018 at 21:16:02 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 as Python's BDFL.

 
 Don't get any ideas!

 
 I have no plans to resign until they carry me out in a box.

+1 to that!


T

-- 
I am not young enough to know everything. -- Oscar Wilde

Adam D. Ruppe <destructionator gmail.com> writes:

On Thursday, 12 July 2018 at 22:28:00 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 I have no plans to resign until they carry me out in a box.

That can be arranged.



(lol you guys we should carry walter out of to the stage of the 
next dconf in a box)

Steven Schveighoffer <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:

On 7/12/18 6:40 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
 On Thursday, 12 July 2018 at 22:28:00 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 I have no plans to resign until they carry me out in a box.

 
 That can be arranged.
 
 
 
 (lol you guys we should carry walter out of to the stage of the next 
 dconf in a box)

That's going to be my interpretive dance submission next year.

-Steve

12345swordy <alexanderheistermann gmail.com> writes:

On Thursday, 12 July 2018 at 21:16:02 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 as Python's BDFL.

 https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-committers/2018-July/005664.html

There is controversy surrounding his opinions? I am out of the 
loop here.

-Alex

Meta <jared771 gmail.com> writes:

On Thursday, 12 July 2018 at 21:16:02 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 as Python's BDFL.

 https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-committers/2018-July/005664.html

I looked up PEP 572 and... *this* is what people are up in arms 
about? Assignment in expressions, which works fine the majority 
of the time in the many languages that allow it. The benefits far 
outweigh the drawbacks IMO.

Russel Winder <russel winder.org.uk> writes:

On Fri, 2018-07-13 at 03:21 +0000, Meta via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 On Thursday, 12 July 2018 at 21:16:02 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 as Python's BDFL.
=20
 https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-committers/2018-July/00566
 4.html

=20
 I looked up PEP 572 and... *this* is what people are up in arms=20
 about? Assignment in expressions, which works fine the majority=20
 of the time in the many languages that allow it. The benefits far=20
 outweigh the drawbacks IMO.

It isn't that simple. PEP 572 is contentious because this is Python and
assignment in expression is not a trivial shoo in concept.

Also it isn't that simple because it is not actually about PEP 572
alone, PEP 572 just ended up being the "straw that broke the camel's
back".=20

BDFL has had to deal with some "attitude" over the years that no-one
should have to deal with. Till recently he let it wash off, but there
is the drip-drip effect. BDFL has not though always been the easiest
person to debate with, and has on occasion short circuited the system
for pet projects. So the traffic has not all been one way.

All in all this is a complicated situation that people should not try
to reduce to something simple. I am sad Guido has stepped down as BDFL,
he originated it, and has, in the main, been an excellent figurehead
custodian as the project got bigger and many other got involved.

I have no doubt Python Software Foundation (PSF) will keep Guido as
President unless he pulls out of that as well =E2=80=93 which I really hope=
 he
doesn't. It is now down to Naomi Cedar as PSF Chair to replace the PEP
decision making structure. As long as the PSF executive committee act
quickly and decisively, I can't see a problem. I suspect replacing BDFL
is not an option, a new system is needed. Some form of rotating
committee is the most likely I suspect.

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"Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa)" <SeeWebsiteToContactMe semitwist.com> writes:

On 07/12/2018 05:16 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
 as Python's BDFL.
 
 https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-committers/2018-July/005664.html

Interesting.

My takeaway after reading his post:

Despite his obvious and understandable frustration, it must be immensely 
satisfying to create a tool, and build it up to the point where you can 
release it back into to its own ecosystem for its own continued future.

I may not be a Python fan, but seriously - kudos to Guido!