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reply Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
as Python's BDFL.

https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-committers/2018-July/005664.html
Jul 12 2018
next sibling parent reply =?UTF-8?B?THXDrXM=?= Marques <luis luismarques.eu> writes:
On Thursday, 12 July 2018 at 21:16:02 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 as Python's BDFL.
Don't get any ideas!
Jul 12 2018
parent reply Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 7/12/2018 2:22 PM, Luís Marques wrote:
 On Thursday, 12 July 2018 at 21:16:02 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 as Python's BDFL.
Don't get any ideas!
I have no plans to resign until they carry me out in a box.
Jul 12 2018
next sibling parent "H. S. Teoh" <hsteoh quickfur.ath.cx> writes:
On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 03:28:00PM -0700, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 On 7/12/2018 2:22 PM, Lus Marques wrote:
 On Thursday, 12 July 2018 at 21:16:02 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 as Python's BDFL.
Don't get any ideas!
I have no plans to resign until they carry me out in a box.
+1 to that! T -- I am not young enough to know everything. -- Oscar Wilde
Jul 12 2018
prev sibling parent reply Adam D. Ruppe <destructionator gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 12 July 2018 at 22:28:00 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 I have no plans to resign until they carry me out in a box.
That can be arranged. (lol you guys we should carry walter out of to the stage of the next dconf in a box)
Jul 12 2018
parent Steven Schveighoffer <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:
On 7/12/18 6:40 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
 On Thursday, 12 July 2018 at 22:28:00 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 I have no plans to resign until they carry me out in a box.
That can be arranged. (lol you guys we should carry walter out of to the stage of the next dconf in a box)
That's going to be my interpretive dance submission next year. -Steve
Jul 13 2018
prev sibling next sibling parent 12345swordy <alexanderheistermann gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 12 July 2018 at 21:16:02 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 as Python's BDFL.

 https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-committers/2018-July/005664.html
There is controversy surrounding his opinions? I am out of the loop here. -Alex
Jul 12 2018
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Meta <jared771 gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 12 July 2018 at 21:16:02 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 as Python's BDFL.

 https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-committers/2018-July/005664.html
I looked up PEP 572 and... *this* is what people are up in arms about? Assignment in expressions, which works fine the majority of the time in the many languages that allow it. The benefits far outweigh the drawbacks IMO.
Jul 12 2018
parent Russel Winder <russel winder.org.uk> writes:
On Fri, 2018-07-13 at 03:21 +0000, Meta via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 On Thursday, 12 July 2018 at 21:16:02 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 as Python's BDFL.
=20
 https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-committers/2018-July/00566
 4.html
=20 I looked up PEP 572 and... *this* is what people are up in arms=20 about? Assignment in expressions, which works fine the majority=20 of the time in the many languages that allow it. The benefits far=20 outweigh the drawbacks IMO.
It isn't that simple. PEP 572 is contentious because this is Python and assignment in expression is not a trivial shoo in concept. Also it isn't that simple because it is not actually about PEP 572 alone, PEP 572 just ended up being the "straw that broke the camel's back".=20 BDFL has had to deal with some "attitude" over the years that no-one should have to deal with. Till recently he let it wash off, but there is the drip-drip effect. BDFL has not though always been the easiest person to debate with, and has on occasion short circuited the system for pet projects. So the traffic has not all been one way. All in all this is a complicated situation that people should not try to reduce to something simple. I am sad Guido has stepped down as BDFL, he originated it, and has, in the main, been an excellent figurehead custodian as the project got bigger and many other got involved. I have no doubt Python Software Foundation (PSF) will keep Guido as President unless he pulls out of that as well =E2=80=93 which I really hope= he doesn't. It is now down to Naomi Cedar as PSF Chair to replace the PEP decision making structure. As long as the PSF executive committee act quickly and decisively, I can't see a problem. I suspect replacing BDFL is not an option, a new system is needed. Some form of rotating committee is the most likely I suspect. --=20 Russel. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk
Jul 13 2018
prev sibling parent "Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa)" <SeeWebsiteToContactMe semitwist.com> writes:
On 07/12/2018 05:16 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
 as Python's BDFL.
 
 https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-committers/2018-July/005664.html
Interesting. My takeaway after reading his post: Despite his obvious and understandable frustration, it must be immensely satisfying to create a tool, and build it up to the point where you can release it back into to its own ecosystem for its own continued future. I may not be a Python fan, but seriously - kudos to Guido!
Jul 13 2018