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reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
I just started http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2013_Ideas. I'll add some 
tomorrow; we should have quite a few before the application deadline 
(March 29) in order to strengthen our application.

Please chime in!


Andrei
Mar 26 2013
next sibling parent reply "bearophile" <bearophileHUGS lycos.com> writes:
Andrei Alexandrescu:


 I just started http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2013_Ideas. I'll add 
 some tomorrow; we should have quite a few before the 
 application deadline (March 29) in order to strengthen our 
 application.

 Please chime in!


LDC is based on LLVM, so this suggests several small project 
ideas, like porting some of the LLVM tools/features designed for 
C/C++ to the D-LDC world. Things like:
- Perform more static analysis, like abstract compilation or 
linting (Clang does both);
- Develop a simple way to compile D for the browser with 
Emscripten to "asm.js" (this is a very small project);
- Perform other run-time tests as done by Clang;
- Use some of the D semantics to improve D code optimization 
(Walter talks about this all the time);
- Implement better high level optimizations for D code that uses 
array ops.

Bye,
bearophile
Mar 26 2013
parent Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 3/26/2013 8:24 PM, bearophile wrote:

 Andrei Alexandrescu:


 I just started http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2013_Ideas. I'll add some tomorrow;
 we should have quite a few before the application deadline (March 29) in order
 to strengthen our application.

 Please chime in!


 LDC is based on LLVM, so this suggests several small project ideas, like
porting
 some of the LLVM tools/features designed for C/C++ to the D-LDC world. Things
like:
 - Perform more static analysis, like abstract compilation or linting (Clang
does
 both);
 - Develop a simple way to compile D for the browser with Emscripten to "asm.js"
 (this is a very small project);
 - Perform other run-time tests as done by Clang;
 - Use some of the D semantics to improve D code optimization (Walter talks
about
 this all the time);
 - Implement better high level optimizations for D code that uses array ops.


Add 'em to the wiki, bearophile!
Mar 26 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent "lomereiter" <lomereiter gmail.com> writes:
Once remaining issues with shared libraries are resolved, it 
becomes feasible to use D code from dynamic languages. Clearly 
it's vital to provide easy path for calling it from Python, as 
it's used by most scientists. Although there's PyD, last few 
years saw rising interest in PyPy because it shows much better 
performance than CPython.
For PyPy, the way to go seems to be generating extern(C) wrappers 
for classes/functions/etc. + CFFI bindings 
(http://cffi.readthedocs.org/) for that C code.
First part of this can be reused for producing C++ wrapping code 
-- this is similar in goals to dtoh 
(http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=9285) but here 
entities to be wrapped should be explicitly mentioned. Extra 
benefit of producing C++ bindings is ability to call SWIG on them 
to support other languages. So, perhaps, C++ is the number one 
target in this respect.
Mar 26 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 3/26/13 11:00 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I just started http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2013_Ideas. I'll add some
 tomorrow; we should have quite a few before the application deadline
 (March 29) in order to strengthen our application.

 Please chime in!


 Andrei


I seeded http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2013_Ideas with some of the ideas 
posted here. Please add to them, thanks!

In order to get accepted and fetch more than the customary 1-3 slots, we 
need to have a strong mentors lineup (check) and a good pool of ideas 
ready before deadline on Friday. At this point we're brainstorming, so 
no idea is too crazy. Do it!!!


Andrei
Mar 27 2013
parent "deadalnix" <deadalnix gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 27 March 2013 at 14:56:08 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

 On 3/26/13 11:00 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I just started http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2013_Ideas. I'll add 
 some
 tomorrow; we should have quite a few before the application 
 deadline
 (March 29) in order to strengthen our application.

 Please chime in!


 Andrei


 I seeded http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2013_Ideas with some of the 
 ideas posted here. Please add to them, thanks!

 In order to get accepted and fetch more than the customary 1-3 
 slots, we need to have a strong mentors lineup (check) and a 
 good pool of ideas ready before deadline on Friday. At this 
 point we're brainstorming, so no idea is too crazy. Do it!!!


Proposed some idea around SDC. I'm also available to mentor 
anything around druntime or phobos (I'm way less confident with 
dmd).
Mar 27 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Joseph Rushton Wakeling <joseph.wakeling webdrake.net> writes:
On 03/27/2013 04:00 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I just started http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2013_Ideas. I'll add some tomorrow;
we
 should have quite a few before the application deadline (March 29) in order to
 strengthen our application.
 
 Please chime in!


A few for people to comment on before anything gets added to the page:

   -- QtD and GtkD.  I'm not 100% up to date on the status of these (I write
      numerical simulations, not applications...) but these should surely be
      brought up to date with the latest versions of Qt and GTK+.  Having a
      well-working QtD seems to me important given the recent announcements
      by Ubuntu favouring Qt (I'm thinking, Qt + Ubuntu Touch + D compiling on
      ARM offers some nice opportunities...).

   -- I'd second the call for really good integration with Python and for
      ARM support.

   -- Making the frontend, runtime and Phobos fully backend-agnostic so that
      new versions can be merged into other compilers (GDC, LDC, ...) with a
      minimal amount of work.

   -- A complete set of containers (emphasis on Set:-) for std.containers, and
      also address the performance issues that have been identified with current
      implementations.

   -- Reimplement random number generators as well designed reference types.

   -- A std.bigfloat to go alongside std.bigint.

   -- Didn't someone say std.numeric needed to be rebuilt from the ground up?
Mar 27 2013
parent reply "Jakob Ovrum" <jakobovrum gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 27 March 2013 at 20:19:22 UTC, Joseph Rushton 
Wakeling wrote:

    -- A complete set of containers (emphasis on Set:-) for 
 std.containers, and
       also address the performance issues that have been 
 identified with current
       implementations.


I think std.container is basically waiting for custom allocators 
before expanding in full force, as it is predicted that a custom 
allocator interface integrated into Phobos will affect both new 
and old containers.

What is the status on allocators, anyway?
Mar 27 2013
parent reply Joseph Rushton Wakeling <joseph.wakeling webdrake.net> writes:
On 03/27/2013 09:41 PM, Jakob Ovrum wrote:

 I think std.container is basically waiting for custom allocators before
 expanding in full force, as it is predicted that a custom allocator interface
 integrated into Phobos will affect both new and old containers.
 
 What is the status on allocators, anyway?


One more for GSoC, then? :-)
Mar 27 2013
parent "Jakob Ovrum" <jakobovrum gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 27 March 2013 at 20:53:48 UTC, Joseph Rushton 
Wakeling wrote:

 One more for GSoC, then? :-)


Indeed, though a word from the present author of the custom 
allocator interface (I believe dsimcha/David Simcha was working 
on it?) would be nice.
Mar 27 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent Dmitry Olshansky <dmitry.olsh gmail.com> writes:
27-Mar-2013 07:00, Andrei Alexandrescu пишет:

 I just started http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2013_Ideas. I'll add some
 tomorrow; we should have quite a few before the application deadline
 (March 29) in order to strengthen our application.

 Please chime in!


Threw in a contingency plan for D to invade the bare metal enthusiast 
sector :)

Jokes aside having an ARM Cortex RTOS with e.g. Boost license is a major 
selling point, together with a better language it could seal the deal 
for some small embedded shops.

It's hardly a piece of cake to achieve in one summer though :o).

-- 
Dmitry Olshansky
Mar 27 2013
prev sibling parent Samuel Lampa <samuel.lampa gmail.com> writes:
On 03/27/2013 04:00 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I just started http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2013_Ideas. I'll add some 
 tomorrow; we should have quite a few before the application deadline 
 (March 29) in order to strengthen our application.

 Please chime in!


I Just got an idea ... too late I guess? Should I create a GSOC 2014 
page and add it there? :)

// Samuel
May 11 2013