• Matthew (31/31) Mar 07 2005 I remember we had a concerted debate a year or so ago about posting
• Vathix (1/1) Mar 07 2005 I agree. lol
• Kris (2/3) Mar 07 2005 ROFL!
• xs0 (5/10) Mar 07 2005 By the timing I guess that was addressed to me :) Sorry, I do usually
• Matthew (5/17) Mar 07 2005 Could've been. I honestly don't know, and it wasn't meant as a personal
• Walter (7/16) Mar 07 2005 On the other hand, when the posts eventually wind up in the 'archives'
• Matthew (6/28) Mar 07 2005 Yes, less. Agreed. Just not nothing.
• zwang (2/40) Mar 07 2005 I recommend you to try Thunderbird. It takes a few minutes to set thing...
• Nick Sabalausky (17/28) Mar 09 2005 I tried Thunderbird a little while ago, and I liked the "underlining
• Walter (7/10) Mar 09 2005 were
• zwang (10/28) Mar 09 2005 One simple solution is to install the "Quote Colors" extension.
• Georg Wrede (7/21) Mar 08 2005 Thunderbird, that's what I have on both Windows and Linux.
• =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_F_Bj=F6rklund?= (4/6) Mar 08 2005 Even available in e.g. Swedish, for us foreigners...

"Matthew" <admin stlsoft.dot.dot.dot.dot.org> writes:

I remember we had a concerted debate a year or so ago about posting
etiquette. I think the consensus was (sensibly) that we don't need, in
this friendly place, prescriptions, proscriptions and all manner of
pedantic strictures to suppress our creativity. There is just one thing
I'd like to raise, however.

In order to manage the increasing volume of posts on this and other
groups, I tend to hide read messages. As such, when posts come
containing answer only, it's a right royal pain to find to what the hell
they're replying. Unless I'm feeling particularly philanthropic, I just
junk them.

So, I'd ask that the one or two people that have been doing this keep at
least a rism of the previous post. I can't believe I'm the only one who
has this same reaction, so you're probably doing yourself at least as
big a favour as you're doing me/us.

Cheers


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Vathix <vathix dprogramming.com> writes:

I agree.  lol

Kris <Kris_member pathlink.com> writes:

In article <opsnapq5jmkcck4r esi>, Vathix says...
I agree.  lol

ROFL!

xs0 <xs0 xs0.com> writes:

 In order to manage the increasing volume of posts on this and other
 groups, I tend to hide read messages. As such, when posts come
 containing answer only, it's a right royal pain to find to what the hell
 they're replying. Unless I'm feeling particularly philanthropic, I just
 junk them.

By the timing I guess that was addressed to me :) Sorry, I do usually 
include a quote..

OTOH, it is also annoying to have to scroll like 250 lines of quotes to 
see a line of reply, so that might be something to watch for as well..


xs0

"Matthew" <admin stlsoft.dot.dot.dot.dot.org> writes:

"xs0" <xs0 xs0.com> wrote in message 
news:d0j0k8$thu$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 In order to manage the increasing volume of posts on this and other
 groups, I tend to hide read messages. As such, when posts come
 containing answer only, it's a right royal pain to find to what the 
 hell
 they're replying. Unless I'm feeling particularly philanthropic, I 
 just
 junk them.

 By the timing I guess that was addressed to me :) Sorry, I do usually 
 include a quote..

Could've been. I honestly don't know, and it wasn't meant as a personal 
go at anyone. Just a tip for increasing one's readership ... ;)

 OTOH, it is also annoying to have to scroll like 250 lines of quotes 
 to see a line of reply, so that might be something to watch for as 
 well..

Indeed. Something I am guilty of, along with many others. ;$

"Walter" <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:

"Matthew" <admin stlsoft.dot.dot.dot.dot.org> wrote in message
news:d0ivh5$s78$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 In order to manage the increasing volume of posts on this and other
 groups, I tend to hide read messages. As such, when posts come
 containing answer only, it's a right royal pain to find to what the hell
 they're replying. Unless I'm feeling particularly philanthropic, I just
 junk them.

 So, I'd ask that the one or two people that have been doing this keep at
 least a rism of the previous post. I can't believe I'm the only one who
 has this same reaction, so you're probably doing yourself at least as
 big a favour as you're doing me/us.

On the other hand, when the posts eventually wind up in the 'archives'
pages, long quotes tend to be annoying. So I was going to suggest less
quoting <g>.

What newsreader are you using? Me, I use Outlook Express, which bolds unread
messages. Makes it easy.

"Matthew" <admin stlsoft.dot.dot.dot.dot.org> writes:

"Walter" <newshound digitalmars.com> wrote in message 
news:d0j77h$158t$2 digitaldaemon.com...
 "Matthew" <admin stlsoft.dot.dot.dot.dot.org> wrote in message
 news:d0ivh5$s78$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 In order to manage the increasing volume of posts on this and other
 groups, I tend to hide read messages. As such, when posts come
 containing answer only, it's a right royal pain to find to what the 
 hell
 they're replying. Unless I'm feeling particularly philanthropic, I 
 just
 junk them.

 So, I'd ask that the one or two people that have been doing this keep 
 at
 least a rism of the previous post. I can't believe I'm the only one 
 who
 has this same reaction, so you're probably doing yourself at least as
 big a favour as you're doing me/us.

 On the other hand, when the posts eventually wind up in the 'archives'
 pages, long quotes tend to be annoying. So I was going to suggest less
 quoting <g>.

Yes, less. Agreed. Just not nothing.

 What newsreader are you using? Me, I use Outlook Express, which bolds 
 unread
 messages. Makes it easy.

Yes, I am using the same execrable filth. I've been planning to upgrade 
to something decent for years, but there's thing pesky thing called time 
...

zwang <nehzgnaw gmail.com> writes:

Matthew wrote:
 "Walter" <newshound digitalmars.com> wrote in message 
 news:d0j77h$158t$2 digitaldaemon.com...
 
"Matthew" <admin stlsoft.dot.dot.dot.dot.org> wrote in message
news:d0ivh5$s78$1 digitaldaemon.com...

In order to manage the increasing volume of posts on this and other
groups, I tend to hide read messages. As such, when posts come
containing answer only, it's a right royal pain to find to what the 
hell
they're replying. Unless I'm feeling particularly philanthropic, I 
just
junk them.

So, I'd ask that the one or two people that have been doing this keep 
at
least a rism of the previous post. I can't believe I'm the only one 
who
has this same reaction, so you're probably doing yourself at least as
big a favour as you're doing me/us.

On the other hand, when the posts eventually wind up in the 'archives'
pages, long quotes tend to be annoying. So I was going to suggest less
quoting <g>.

 
 
 Yes, less. Agreed. Just not nothing.
 
 
What newsreader are you using? Me, I use Outlook Express, which bolds 
unread
messages. Makes it easy.

 
 
 Yes, I am using the same execrable filth. I've been planning to upgrade 
 to something decent for years, but there's thing pesky thing called time 
 ...
 


I recommend you to try Thunderbird.  It takes a few minutes to set things up.

"Nick Sabalausky" <z a.a> writes:

What newsreader are you using? Me, I use Outlook Express, which bolds 
unread
messages. Makes it easy.


 Yes, I am using the same execrable filth. I've been planning to upgrade 
 to something decent for years, but there's thing pesky thing called time 
 ...


 I recommend you to try Thunderbird.  It takes a few minutes to set things 
 up.

I tried Thunderbird a little while ago, and I liked the "underlining 
partially read threads" and I like the way it handles quotes, but there were 
some annoyances that drove me back to Outlook Express after a couple weeks:

- There's no (apperent) way to make it stop turning *word* into bold, /word/ 
into italic, and _word_ into underline. I like my plain text to be plain 
text, thank you.
- The left pane insists on abbreviating "digitalmars.D" to "d.D", and 
"digitalmars.D.bugs" to "d.D.bugs", etc. Even when there's plenty of room 
for the full name.
- Almost every time I open a newsgroup, it chooses a random thread to 
"expand all".
- I don't like Mark As Read and Mark Thread as Read being in a sub-menu of 
the right-click menu.
- My email server redirects to a different name, so when I tried to send 
mail encrypted, Thunderbird kept pestering me about it and didn't allow any 
"always ok for that domain" option.
- Email Message Filters seem to be extremely broken.

"Walter" <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:

"Nick Sabalausky" <z a.a> wrote in message
news:d0n26i$2das$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 I tried Thunderbird a little while ago, and I liked the "underlining
 partially read threads" and I like the way it handles quotes, but there

were
 some annoyances that drove me back to Outlook Express after a couple

weeks:

I have a couple complaints with OE's newsreader, mainly it gets the unread
messages count maddeningly wrong, but overall it's fine. It's infinitely
more useful than web forum software like what slashdot uses.

zwang <nehzgnaw gmail.com> writes:

Nick Sabalausky wrote:
 I tried Thunderbird a little while ago, and I liked the "underlining 
 partially read threads" and I like the way it handles quotes, but there were 
 some annoyances that drove me back to Outlook Express after a couple weeks:
 
 - There's no (apperent) way to make it stop turning *word* into bold, /word/ 
 into italic, and _word_ into underline. I like my plain text to be plain 
 text, thank you.

One simple solution is to install the "Quote Colors" extension.
You might also tweak the pref.js directly.

 - The left pane insists on abbreviating "digitalmars.D" to "d.D", and 
 "digitalmars.D.bugs" to "d.D.bugs", etc. Even when there's plenty of room 
 for the full name.

True. However, I like this feature.

 - Almost every time I open a newsgroup, it chooses a random thread to 
 "expand all".

It never occurred to me. Weird.

 - I don't like Mark As Read and Mark Thread as Read being in a sub-menu of 
 the right-click menu.

"M" and "R" are the keyboard shortcuts for these two tasks respectively.

 - My email server redirects to a different name, so when I tried to send 
 mail encrypted, Thunderbird kept pestering me about it and didn't allow any 
 "always ok for that domain" option.

I can understand how annoying this is.

 - Email Message Filters seem to be extremely broken.

"extremely broken"? Is it an exaggeration?
I find email filters quite usable.  Maybe my filters are not complicated enough 
to trigger the bug you found.

Georg Wrede <georg.wrede nospam.org> writes:

Matthew wrote:
 "Walter" <newshound digitalmars.com> wrote in message 
 news:d0j77h$158t$2 digitaldaemon.com...
 
"Matthew" <admin stlsoft.dot.dot.dot.dot.org> wrote in message
news:d0ivh5$s78$1 digitaldaemon.com...

In order to manage the increasing volume of posts on this and other
groups, I tend to hide read messages.

What newsreader are you using? Me, I use Outlook Express, which bolds 
unread
messages. Makes it easy.

 
 Yes, I am using the same execrable filth. I've been planning to upgrade 
 to something decent for years, but there's thing pesky thing called time 

Thunderbird, that's what I have on both Windows and Linux.

No hassle with install. Easy-beasy.

And while _YOU_BOTH_ are at it, get Firefox for surfing.

You'll get the time "wasted" back within a week, with interest.

Getting and installing them isn't much more work than getting Acrobat 
Reader, or Flash, etc. I'd be scared to death using OE, or IE.

=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_F_Bj=F6rklund?= <afb algonet.se> writes:

Georg Wrede wrote:

 Thunderbird, that's what I have on both Windows and Linux.

And Mac OS X, too. (posting this, using Thunderbird)

 No hassle with install. Easy-beasy.

Even available in e.g. Swedish, for us foreigners...

--anders