c++.stlsoft - Tutorials on using STLSoft
- Default User (8/8) Jan 10 2006 I've seen a lot of cool sounding features in STLSoft but I was wondering...
- Matthew (32/41) Jan 10 2006 Well, each distro comes with quite a lot of test programs, which aren't ...
- Raindog (26/73) Feb 13 2006 Matthew,
- Matthew (28/117) Feb 13 2006 In the specific case, you would just need to write
- Pablo Aguilar (6/32) Feb 14 2006 Do you encourage use or otherwise of the winstl_ns_using or
- Matthew (8/12) Feb 23 2006 I use them in the libs, and in test code, but I don't like to use them i...
- Matt Wilson (5/9) Jun 17 2010 Well, that's what they're there for, but I don't encourage it in applica...
I've seen a lot of cool sounding features in STLSoft but I was wondering if there are any good examples or detailed discussions in the use of the STLSoft libraries. I picked up Imperfect C++ but feel that the book only briefly touches some issues but does not really go into big enough detail to show where one particular idea would best fit. Is there a place where I can find detailed examples of ideal situations where I might want to incorporate these libraries?
Jan 10 2006
I've seen a lot of cool sounding features in STLSoft but I was wonderingifthere are any good examplesWell, each distro comes with quite a lot of test programs, which aren't that illuminating, and a few samples, which hopefully are a little more so. Also the recls (http://recls.org) and Open-RJ (http://openrj.org) libraries use STLSoft a fair bit.or detailed discussions in the use of the STLSoft libraries.Other than in my book(s) and articles (http://www.synesis.com.au/articles.html), this newsgroup's largely where most discussion is happening. But, overall, it's fair to say that the quantity and quality of tutorials is low. Since STLSoft is largely just l'il ole me plugging away, some things fall by the wayside, and thus far it's been the documentation and tutorials that've had to take the back seatI picked up Imperfect C++ but feel that the book only briefly touches some issues but does not really go into big enough detail to show where one particular idea would best fit.Sure.Is there a place where I can find detailed examples of ideal situations where I might want to incorporate these libraries?All I can suggest is to ask questions here, and I, or some of the other users, can answer them. Maybe if you get enough good answers, you might be able to form your own tutorial. (Bob knows I could do with the help <g>) Cheers -- Matthew Wilson Author: "Extended STL", Addison-Wesley, 2006 http://www.extendedstl.com Author: "Imperfect C++", Addison-Wesley, 2004 http://www.imperfectcplusplus.com Contributing editor, C/C++ Users Journal http://www.synesis.com.au/articles.html#columns Director, Synesis Software www.synesis.com.au STLSoft moderator http://www.stlsoft.org news://news.digitalmars.com/c++.stlsoft "I can't sleep nights till I found out who hurled what ball through what apparatus" -- Dr Niles Crane
Jan 10 2006
Matthew, I just got to a point in my project where I required use of some simple scoped locking objects. Now I've come to the problem of this: I can't even figure out what namespace they are in so that I can use them..... The 8000 different #defines and conditional compilations make it exceptionally difficult to wade through the code, it was not but by happenstance that I caught this on the front page: Note: in fact, each of the sub-projects is defined in a nested namespace that is aliased to the given one, e.g. WinSTL components are defined within stlsoft::winstl_project, to which winstl is aliased. However, you need not concern yourself about that, and can simply use the notional namespace. (See the white-papers for details of a C/C++ User's Journal article describing this technique.) Visual Studio was unable to find the winstl alias, or even the projectstl alias that I was attempting to use thread_mutex from. After about 20 minutes and a short break I was finally able to come up with the correct solution. typedef stlsoft::winstl_project::thread_mutex mutex_t; mutex_t Mtx; { ::stlsoft::lock_scope<mutex_t> Scope(Mtx); } But it was far too much time spent on such 3 simple lines of code =\ "Matthew" <matthew hat.stlsoft.dot.org> wrote in message news:dq24u4$l1b$1 digitaldaemon.com...I've seen a lot of cool sounding features in STLSoft but I was wonderingifthere are any good examplesWell, each distro comes with quite a lot of test programs, which aren't that illuminating, and a few samples, which hopefully are a little more so. Also the recls (http://recls.org) and Open-RJ (http://openrj.org) libraries use STLSoft a fair bit.or detailed discussions in the use of the STLSoft libraries.Other than in my book(s) and articles (http://www.synesis.com.au/articles.html), this newsgroup's largely where most discussion is happening. But, overall, it's fair to say that the quantity and quality of tutorials is low. Since STLSoft is largely just l'il ole me plugging away, some things fall by the wayside, and thus far it's been the documentation and tutorials that've had to take the back seatI picked up Imperfect C++ but feel that the book only briefly touches some issues but does not really go into big enough detail to show where one particular idea would best fit.Sure.Is there a place where I can find detailed examples of ideal situations where I might want to incorporate these libraries?All I can suggest is to ask questions here, and I, or some of the other users, can answer them. Maybe if you get enough good answers, you might be able to form your own tutorial. (Bob knows I could do with the help <g>) Cheers -- Matthew Wilson Author: "Extended STL", Addison-Wesley, 2006 http://www.extendedstl.com Author: "Imperfect C++", Addison-Wesley, 2004 http://www.imperfectcplusplus.com Contributing editor, C/C++ Users Journal http://www.synesis.com.au/articles.html#columns Director, Synesis Software www.synesis.com.au STLSoft moderator http://www.stlsoft.org news://news.digitalmars.com/c++.stlsoft "I can't sleep nights till I found out who hurled what ball through what apparatus" -- Dr Niles Crane
Feb 13 2006
In the specific case, you would just need to write
typedef winstl::thread_mutex mutex_t;
mutex_t Mtx;
{
::stlsoft::lock_scope<mutex_t> Scope(Mtx);
}
But overall, I cannot argue that the documentation is terrible. I'd love to
have even a hint/pointer from someone such as yourself as to how to improve
it. Each time I get such, I will make a change. Please feel free to make any
suggestions you think appropriate.
Once my book is out of the way - 3 more chapters to go .... - I plan to do
some serious work on the documentation, so that 1.9, which comes with masses
of improvements and new components/librraies, gets seen in an appropriate
light.
Cheers
Matthew
P.S. Thanks for taking the time to post. It's appreciated. :-)
"Raindog" <raindog macrohmasheen.com> wrote in message
news:dspg6h$1cn4$1 digitaldaemon.com...
Matthew,
I just got to a point in my project where I required use of some simple
scoped locking objects.
Now I've come to the problem of this: I can't even figure out what
namespace
they are in so that I can use them.....
The 8000 different #defines and conditional compilations make it
exceptionally difficult to wade through the code, it was not but by
happenstance that I caught this on the front page:
Note: in fact, each of the sub-projects is defined in a nested namespace
that is aliased to the given one, e.g. WinSTL components are defined
within
stlsoft::winstl_project, to which winstl is aliased. However, you need not
concern yourself about that, and can simply use the notional namespace.
(See
the white-papers for details of a C/C++ User's Journal article describing
this technique.)
Visual Studio was unable to find the winstl alias, or even the projectstl
alias that I was attempting to use thread_mutex from.
After about 20 minutes and a short break I was finally able to come up
with
the correct solution.
typedef stlsoft::winstl_project::thread_mutex mutex_t;
mutex_t Mtx;
{
::stlsoft::lock_scope<mutex_t> Scope(Mtx);
}
But it was far too much time spent on such 3 simple lines of code =\
"Matthew" <matthew hat.stlsoft.dot.org> wrote in message
news:dq24u4$l1b$1 digitaldaemon.com...
I've seen a lot of cool sounding features in STLSoft but I was
wondering
if
there are any good examples
Well, each distro comes with quite a lot of test programs, which aren't
that
illuminating, and a few samples, which hopefully are a little more so.
Also the recls (http://recls.org) and Open-RJ (http://openrj.org)
libraries
use STLSoft a fair bit.
or detailed discussions in the use of the
STLSoft libraries.
Other than in my book(s) and articles
(http://www.synesis.com.au/articles.html), this newsgroup's largely
where
most discussion is happening.
But, overall, it's fair to say that the quantity and quality of
tutorials
is
low. Since STLSoft is largely just l'il ole me plugging away, some
things
fall by the wayside, and thus far it's been the documentation and
tutorials
that've had to take the back seat
I picked up Imperfect C++ but feel that the book only briefly touches
some
issues but does not really go into big enough detail to show where one
particular idea would best fit.
Sure.
Is there a place where I can find detailed examples of ideal situations
where I might want to incorporate these libraries?
All I can suggest is to ask questions here, and I, or some of the other
users, can answer them. Maybe if you get enough good answers, you might
be
able to form your own tutorial. (Bob knows I could do with the help <g>)
Cheers
--
Matthew Wilson
Author: "Extended STL", Addison-Wesley, 2006
http://www.extendedstl.com
Author: "Imperfect C++", Addison-Wesley, 2004
http://www.imperfectcplusplus.com
Contributing editor, C/C++ Users Journal
http://www.synesis.com.au/articles.html#columns
Director, Synesis Software
www.synesis.com.au
STLSoft moderator
http://www.stlsoft.org
news://news.digitalmars.com/c++.stlsoft
"I can't sleep nights till I found out who hurled what ball through
what apparatus" -- Dr Niles Crane
Feb 13 2006
Do you encourage use or otherwise of the winstl_ns_using or
winstl_ns_qual macros?
'cuz that's what I use all the time...
And they work fine even with VC6's crappy support.
Pablo
Matthew wrote:
In the specific case, you would just need to write
typedef winstl::thread_mutex mutex_t;
mutex_t Mtx;
{
::stlsoft::lock_scope<mutex_t> Scope(Mtx);
}
But overall, I cannot argue that the documentation is terrible. I'd love to
have even a hint/pointer from someone such as yourself as to how to improve
it. Each time I get such, I will make a change. Please feel free to make any
suggestions you think appropriate.
Once my book is out of the way - 3 more chapters to go .... - I plan to do
some serious work on the documentation, so that 1.9, which comes with masses
of improvements and new components/librraies, gets seen in an appropriate
light.
Cheers
Matthew
Feb 14 2006
"Matthew" <nowhere noaddress.co.us> "Pablo Aguilar" <pablo.aguilar gmail.com> wrote in message news:dss6ji$14ok$1 digitaldaemon.com...Do you encourage use or otherwise of the winstl_ns_using or winstl_ns_qual macros?I use them in the libs, and in test code, but I don't like to use them in application code, and I wouldn't recommend there use as such. However, if people want to do so, there's no technical reason why they shouldn't: they'll always be supported.'cuz that's what I use all the time... And they work fine even with VC6's crappy support.Indeed. That's the point. If you're writing code to work with really old compilers, then you might do so.
Feb 23 2006
"Pablo Aguilar" <pablo.aguilar gmail.com> wrote in message news:dss6ji$14ok$1 digitaldaemon.com...Do you encourage use or otherwise of the winstl_ns_using or winstl_ns_qual macros? 'cuz that's what I use all the time... And they work fine even with VC6's crappy support.Well, that's what they're there for, but I don't encourage it in application code. They're more for internal use, and an emergency thing for anyone that finds they need them (usually because they're having to work with VC6!)
Jun 17 2010