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D - templating question

reply larry cowan <larry_member pathlink.com> writes:
How do I take a template I have written and tested and make it available to
programs I write without including the .d file in the new program compile?
Or...how to I make a library out of one or more template files for use in the D
environment?  In linux, I'd try ar, but in win32 I have no clue...
Feb 09 2004
parent reply J C Calvarese <jcc7 cox.net> writes:
larry cowan wrote:

 How do I take a template I have written and tested and make it available to
 programs I write without including the .d file in the new program compile?
 Or...how to I make a library out of one or more template files for use in the D
 environment?  In linux, I'd try ar, but in win32 I have no clue...
 
 


I attached a working example (for Windows). I'm not sure if it answers 
your question, but maybe it'll point you in the right direction.

-- 
Justin
http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/
Feb 09 2004
parent reply larry cowan <larry_member pathlink.com> writes:
This works, but is not what I meant.  What is the utility, D or otherwise to
make a .lib?  I have tried calling the module with and without a module
beginning and putting the compiled object in the SRC\MYLIBS directory (calling
the module mylibs.mytemplate), without success, so I'm guessing I need a .lib.

Is a compiled "template module" a full fledged .obj module?  Is it accessible if
in the path without a specific call into the link?  If coded as a module and the
d file is in the src\mylibs directory, the compile finds what is needed in the
d, but the link fails, not finding the .obj pieces (several any-type
functions).  Doesn't work any better if .d and .obj are in the local (.)
directory either.  Where can I go from here?

Dave seems to use an APROPOS directory in SRC, but the things I have seen here
are just .d code without any further info.  If there is not something D-based
for creating libs, I might try to create something, but I need to know more
about D objects, and whether D & C coded objects could/should be mixed, etc.

-larry 

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larry cowan wrote:

 How do I take a template I have written and tested and make it available to
 programs I write without including the .d file in the new program compile?
 Or...how to I make a library out of one or more template files for use in the D
 environment?  In linux, I'd try ar, but in win32 I have no clue...
 
 


I attached a working example (for Windows). I'm not sure if it answers 
your question, but maybe it'll point you in the right direction.

-- 
Justin
http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/

 name="max_temp.bat" = compiles each to .obj, links together as executable

 name="max_temp.d" = coded template as module

 name="main.d" = coded main() with use of template
Feb 10 2004
parent reply larry cowan <larry_member pathlink.com> writes:
Now I found "dm\lib.exe" with a -h option.  I'll see what I can do with this and
probably work out my problem - just haven't done much in Win before beyond
porting some C/C++ code from Unix.  Walter's explanation of his lib prog on the
website has told me the basics (www.digitalmars.com/ctg/lib.html).  Sorry to
have thrown out the question before doing enough homework first, but maybe
someone else will have been helped...

-larry 

In article <c0anvl$148p$1 digitaldaemon.com>, larry cowan says...

This works, but is not what I meant.  What is the utility, D or otherwise to
make a .lib?  I have tried calling the module with and without a module
beginning and putting the compiled object in the SRC\MYLIBS directory (calling
the module mylibs.mytemplate), without success, so I'm guessing I need a .lib.

Is a compiled "template module" a full fledged .obj module?  Is it accessible if
in the path without a specific call into the link?  If coded as a module and the
d file is in the src\mylibs directory, the compile finds what is needed in the
d, but the link fails, not finding the .obj pieces (several any-type
functions).  Doesn't work any better if .d and .obj are in the local (.)
directory either.  Where can I go from here?

Dave seems to use an APROPOS directory in SRC, but the things I have seen here
are just .d code without any further info.  If there is not something D-based
for creating libs, I might try to create something, but I need to know more
about D objects, and whether D & C coded objects could/should be mixed, etc.

-larry 

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larry cowan wrote:

 How do I take a template I have written and tested and make it available to
 programs I write without including the .d file in the new program compile?
 Or...how to I make a library out of one or more template files for use in the D
 environment?  In linux, I'd try ar, but in win32 I have no clue...
 
 


I attached a working example (for Windows). I'm not sure if it answers 
your question, but maybe it'll point you in the right direction.

-- 
Justin
http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/

 name="max_temp.bat" = compiles each to .obj, links together as executable

 name="max_temp.d" = coded template as module

 name="main.d" = coded main() with use of template
Feb 10 2004
parent reply J C Calvarese <jcc7 cox.net> writes:
larry cowan wrote:

 Now I found "dm\lib.exe" with a -h option.  I'll see what I can do with this
and
 probably work out my problem - just haven't done much in Win before beyond
 porting some C/C++ code from Unix.  Walter's explanation of his lib prog on the
 website has told me the basics (www.digitalmars.com/ctg/lib.html).  Sorry to
 have thrown out the question before doing enough homework first, but maybe
 someone else will have been helped...


You asked a good question. I don't remember how I figured out how to 
make a .lib file. Maybe it was from someone else asking here how they're 
created.

If I knew Linux better (I'm sure my Linux skills are worse than your 
Windows skills...), I probably would have figured out what you were 
after and suggested this for a batch file right away:

 echo off
echo Compile Template (create .obj)...
dmd max_temp.d -c
echo.
echo Creating .lib...
lib -c max_temp.lib max_temp.obj
echo.
echo Compile and Link Main File...
dmd main.d max_temp.lib
echo.
echo Running example...
main.exe
pause
erase main.obj
erase main.map
erase max_temp.obj
erase max_temp.lib



 Dave seems to use an APROPOS directory in SRC, but the things I have 


  > seen here are just .d code without any further info.  If there is 
not > something D-based for creating libs, I might try to create 
something, > but I need to know more about D objects, and whether D & C 
coded      > objects could/should be mixed, etc.

By the way, I don't think I'm familiar with Dave's work. Is his APROPOS 
available for download somewhere?


 
 -larry 


-- 
Justin
http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/
Feb 10 2004
next sibling parent "Larry Cowan" <LarryCowan comcast.net> writes:
The writer's name may be wrong, but I have picked up some stuff with module
names prefixed by "atropos." - I think out of the forum.  I have figured out
the lib creation stuf and played with module names and .d file and .lib
positioning.  I can get the .d info picked up by the compiler directly, by
placing it in the src\phobos hierarchy with
appropriate module naming.  What I haven't been able to do is to get the
linker to pick up the .lib or .obj tags without specific inclusion of the
.lib, .obj, or .d file in the compile and link.  Presume that
dmd\bin\sc.ini, dmd\bin\dmd.conf, or  dm\bin\sc.ini modification is
required, but I haven't been able to discover how yet.

-larry

"J C Calvarese" <jcc7 cox.net> wrote in message
news:c0brjp$2v47$1 digitaldaemon.com...

 larry cowan wrote:

 Now I found "dm\lib.exe" with a -h option.  I'll see what I can do with




this and

 probably work out my problem - just haven't done much in Win before




beyond

 porting some C/C++ code from Unix.  Walter's explanation of his lib prog




on the

 website has told me the basics (www.digitalmars.com/ctg/lib.html).




Sorry to

 have thrown out the question before doing enough homework first, but




maybe

 someone else will have been helped...


 You asked a good question. I don't remember how I figured out how to
 make a .lib file. Maybe it was from someone else asking here how they're
 created.

 If I knew Linux better (I'm sure my Linux skills are worse than your
 Windows skills...), I probably would have figured out what you were
 after and suggested this for a batch file right away:

  echo off
 echo Compile Template (create .obj)...
 dmd max_temp.d -c
 echo.
 echo Creating .lib...
 lib -c max_temp.lib max_temp.obj
 echo.
 echo Compile and Link Main File...
 dmd main.d max_temp.lib
 echo.
 echo Running example...
 main.exe
 pause
 erase main.obj
 erase main.map
 erase max_temp.obj
 erase max_temp.lib


  > Dave seems to use an APROPOS directory in SRC, but the things I have
   > seen here are just .d code without any further info.  If there is
 not > something D-based for creating libs, I might try to create
 something, > but I need to know more about D objects, and whether D & C
 coded      > objects could/should be mixed, etc.

 By the way, I don't think I'm familiar with Dave's work. Is his APROPOS
 available for download somewhere?


 -larry


 --
 Justin
 http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/
Feb 11 2004
prev sibling parent reply Andy Friesen <andy ikagames.com> writes:
J C Calvarese wrote:


 larry cowan wrote:
 

 Now I found "dm\lib.exe" with a -h option.  I'll see what I can do 
 with this and
 probably work out my problem - just haven't done much in Win before 
 beyond
 porting some C/C++ code from Unix.  Walter's explanation of his lib 
 prog on the
 website has told me the basics (www.digitalmars.com/ctg/lib.html).  
 Sorry to
 have thrown out the question before doing enough homework first, but 
 maybe
 someone else will have been helped...


 
 
 You asked a good question. I don't remember how I figured out how to 
 make a .lib file. Maybe it was from someone else asking here how they're 
 created.
 
 If I knew Linux better (I'm sure my Linux skills are worse than your 
 Windows skills...), I probably would have figured out what you were 
 after and suggested this for a batch file right away:
 
  echo off
 echo Compile Template (create .obj)...
 dmd max_temp.d -c
 echo.
 echo Creating .lib...
 lib -c max_temp.lib max_temp.obj
 echo.
 echo Compile and Link Main File...
 dmd main.d max_temp.lib
 echo.
 echo Running example...
 main.exe
 pause
 erase main.obj
 erase main.map
 erase max_temp.obj
 erase max_temp.lib
 
 
  > Dave seems to use an APROPOS directory in SRC, but the things I have 
  > seen here are just .d code without any further info.  If there is not 
  > something D-based for creating libs, I might try to create something, 
  > but I need to know more about D objects, and whether D & C coded      
  > objects could/should be mixed, etc.
 
 By the way, I don't think I'm familiar with Dave's work. Is his APROPOS 
 available for download somewhere?


Apropos is a little lib I coded, actually.  It's basically a collection 
of miscellany that I've found to be frequently useful: 
<http://ikagames.com/andy/d>

.lib files are basically just .zip without compression.  You make a 
bunch of object files with dmd, then use the lib tool to mash them together.

     lib -c thingie.lib  a.obj b.obj c.obj .....

As for templates, I've frequently had link errors with templates that 
are defined in .libs.  Including the source file that defines the 
template into the build scrypt solves the problem.  I suspect this is 
because D templates have to belong to some obj somewhere, and they have 
to be compiled only once for each set of arguments.

  -- andy
Feb 11 2004
parent J C Calvarese <jcc7 cox.net> writes:
Andy Friesen wrote:

 J C Calvarese wrote:


[...]

 By the way, I don't think I'm familiar with Dave's work. Is his 
 APROPOS available for download somewhere?


 
 
 Apropos is a little lib I coded, actually.  It's basically a collection 
 of miscellany that I've found to be frequently useful: 
 <http://ikagames.com/andy/d>


Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. It looks like you've done 
some neat things with templates. Apropos didn't sound familiar to me. 
(If he'd mentioned dfbth, on the other hand, I would've known to go to 
your website.)

-- 
Justin
http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/
Feb 11 2004