• Bill Cox (13/13) Aug 01 2003 Here's an interesting article about code generation from UML.
• Frank Wills (14/33) Aug 01 2003 Visual Basic, while not as expressive, powerful, or useful
• Patrick Down (16/29) Aug 01 2003 I seen a few good testimonials for code generation from modeling tools,
• Simon J Mackenzie (4/52) Aug 02 2003 Simon

Bill Cox <bill viasic.com> writes:

Here's an interesting article about code generation from UML.

http://www.adtmag.com/article.asp?id=7850

I can attest to the huge productivity gains possible with these kinds of 
tools.  Over the last 12 years, I've seen several groups use schema 
driven code generators, and the coding methods to match.  I'd guess we 
get about 2x productivity improvements overall.


good in this reguard.

The two langauges that have the most code-generator related activity 

great thing in programming productivity improvements, but then again, it 
should have happened years ago.

Bill

Frank Wills <name host.com> writes:

Visual Basic, while not as expressive, powerful, or useful
as C or C++, does do some code generation in the form of
automatically creating subroutine and function calls to
match object events, methods, and properties. This somewhat
small thing allows very rapid application development. I
would like to see what I would call a 'modern' IDE for D
which employs the many timesaving 'tricks' of the more
popular commercial IDEs, but without going to the extent
that the IDE gets in the way of working directly with
code. For example, MS's MFC is what I consider a very bad
thing, in that perhaps of the programming that you do is
with 'wizards', which I dislike if they complicate or
obscure anything.

Bill Cox wrote:
 Here's an interesting article about code generation from UML.
 
 http://www.adtmag.com/article.asp?id=7850
 
 I can attest to the huge productivity gains possible with these kinds of 
 tools.  Over the last 12 years, I've seen several groups use schema 
 driven code generators, and the coding methods to match.  I'd guess we 
 get about 2x productivity improvements overall.
 

 good in this reguard.
 
 The two langauges that have the most code-generator related activity 

 great thing in programming productivity improvements, but then again, it 
 should have happened years ago.
 
 Bill
 

Patrick Down <Patrick_member pathlink.com> writes:

In article <3F2A78DE.9090506 viasic.com>, Bill Cox says...
Here's an interesting article about code generation from UML.

http://www.adtmag.com/article.asp?id=7850

I can attest to the huge productivity gains possible with these kinds of 
tools.  Over the last 12 years, I've seen several groups use schema 
driven code generators, and the coding methods to match.  I'd guess we 
get about 2x productivity improvements overall.


good in this reguard.

The two langauges that have the most code-generator related activity 

great thing in programming productivity improvements, but then again, it 
should have happened years ago.

Bill

I seen a few good testimonials for code generation from modeling tools, 
including your stories.  Admittedly most of these seem to be in very 
specific domains of software development.  This makes sense because 
it's easier to tailor code generators for specific tasks.  The more 
general case seems to be harder.  


they are easy to parse and have facilities for run time introspection.
The makes the round trip from modeler to code back to modeler easier.
C++ is more problematic.  I haven't run across a tool yet that could
successfully reverse engineer any real life C++ code back into a model.
Admittedly I've never been able to try any of the big name tools like
Rational or Together soft. Their price tag is out of my league and 
frankly out of the league of most small companies.

However I am convinced that MDA in some form will eventually become 
the way the majority of software is developed.  

Simon J Mackenzie <project.d smackoz.fastmail.fm> writes:

For code generators check out http://www.softvelocity.com/

 From their site
Clarion is the foundation of the SoftVelocity product line and anchors 
the company's reputation for fast, efficient database application 
development. In addition to the Clarion 4GL language, the Clarion 
product also includes both a C++ and Modula-2 compiler. All of the 
languages share a common optimizer, and they can be mixed within a 
single application.

Simon

Patrick Down wrote:
 In article <3F2A78DE.9090506 viasic.com>, Bill Cox says...
 
Here's an interesting article about code generation from UML.

http://www.adtmag.com/article.asp?id=7850

I can attest to the huge productivity gains possible with these kinds of 
tools.  Over the last 12 years, I've seen several groups use schema 
driven code generators, and the coding methods to match.  I'd guess we 
get about 2x productivity improvements overall.


good in this reguard.

The two langauges that have the most code-generator related activity 

great thing in programming productivity improvements, but then again, it 
should have happened years ago.

Bill

 
 
 I seen a few good testimonials for code generation from modeling tools, 
 including your stories.  Admittedly most of these seem to be in very 
 specific domains of software development.  This makes sense because 
 it's easier to tailor code generators for specific tasks.  The more 
 general case seems to be harder.  
 

 they are easy to parse and have facilities for run time introspection.
 The makes the round trip from modeler to code back to modeler easier.
 C++ is more problematic.  I haven't run across a tool yet that could
 successfully reverse engineer any real life C++ code back into a model.
 Admittedly I've never been able to try any of the big name tools like
 Rational or Together soft. Their price tag is out of my league and 
 frankly out of the league of most small companies.
 
 However I am convinced that MDA in some form will eventually become 
 the way the majority of software is developed.