• Dan Olson (15/15) Nov 02 2012 Just a note. The Livinig Computer Museum
• Walter Bright (2/15) Nov 19 2012 That is pretty cool!
• Dan Olson (35/35) Mar 18 2013 Walter,

Dan Olson <zans.is.for.cans yahoo.com> writes:

Just a note.  The Livinig Computer Museum

http://www.livingcomputermuseum.org/ 

has running DECs from PDP-7 to PDP-12.  They have several DEC-10s and
offer user accounts with login over the internet.  I visited last
weekend and mentioned the old PDP-10 fortran sources for empire.  They
are actually trying to build Walter's old empire, but have a newer
(still antique though) fortran compiler, so its not there yet.  But
soon, you may be able to login and run empire on TOPS-10 and real DEC 10
h/w - as it was meant to be played!

P.S. If anybody is interested, I updated the D version of empire to uses
curses and a recent version of D.  I run it on my Mac in a terminal
window.  Still needs some work with things like help but it will still
make you forget to go to sleep.

-- 
dano

Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:

On 11/2/2012 10:34 AM, Dan Olson wrote:
 Just a note.  The Livinig Computer Museum

 http://www.livingcomputermuseum.org/

 has running DECs from PDP-7 to PDP-12.  They have several DEC-10s and
 offer user accounts with login over the internet.  I visited last
 weekend and mentioned the old PDP-10 fortran sources for empire.  They
 are actually trying to build Walter's old empire, but have a newer
 (still antique though) fortran compiler, so its not there yet.  But
 soon, you may be able to login and run empire on TOPS-10 and real DEC 10
 h/w - as it was meant to be played!

 P.S. If anybody is interested, I updated the D version of empire to uses
 curses and a recent version of D.  I run it on my Mac in a terminal
 window.  Still needs some work with things like help but it will still
 make you forget to go to sleep.

That is pretty cool!

Dan Olson <zans.is.for.cans yahoo.com> writes:

Walter,

I have done minor fixs ups to the pdp-10 fortran source code so it will
compile and run in a DEC-10 simh.  I had to make up some missing
subroutines (a missing file perhaps) and learn some PDP-10 macro
assembler in the process.  The 5 binary map files were missing and
expected on a GAM: device, so I generated some from the D empire source
code (mapdata.d I think?) and changed the device.

It runs, however I don't have a terminal emulator that works with it.
That is the next thing.  I will see if I can figure it out term codes
being used and get an emulator, or I may drop in alternate cursor
routines that will work with ansi/vt-100 stye codes.

Anyway, I want to know if after I get a working version, if I can
contribute it back to classic empire, perhaps along with the dsk image
that can be used directly with simh?  Then anyone can play the original
empire.  I was also going to let the folks at livingcomputermuseum know
so they can add it to their real DEC-10.

. execute  empire

EMPIRE, VERSION 3
COPYRIGHT 1978 BY WALTER BRIGHT
DIRECTIONS ARE ON HLP:EMPIRE.HLP
FOR QUESTIONS OR BUGS SEND MAIL TO [29970,WBG]

PLEASE WAIT 7 DAYS FOR CREATION OF WORLD.(ABOUT A MINUTE OR 2)
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-- 
Dan Olson

P.S. I am local in Seattle.  We met briefly when you presented at C++
users meeting in Feb.