• monkyyy (18/18) Jul 31 One of the splits in the d community is on the topic of template
• rkompass (3/5) Aug 02 Can someone tell shortly what the the situation is with Andrei?
• Mike Parker (10/11) Aug 02 He stepped away from his role as co-maintainer and is no longer
• monkyyy (5/10) Aug 02 ... Probaly should have looked that up
• Adam Wilson (4/8) Aug 05 As the fellow most closely associated with that idea I'd love for

monkyyy <crazymonkyyy gmail.com> writes:

One of the splits in the d community is on the topic of template 
hell; on my side the story goes, with templates we will make N 
data structures and M of algorthims and we will get NxM programs 
that heavily reuse code. The other side of the debate thinks 
templates airnt worth the effort and make bad error messages. 
This other side includes Walter.

Andrei Alexandrescu has been gone for at least a few years, 
theres no one to push this goal forward, or even to defend old 
ground. I dont know if my side is 10% of the d community or 70%, 
but I use d *for* the best template hell available.

If Walter dictates that Phobos should use less templates and the 
person managing Phobos doesn't even like template hell(I believe 
both of these are true); ranges are unlikely to improve in any 
respect for v3, and a very ineffective and painful attempt to 
minimize template usage of `std.algorithm` will be done 
uselessly. The job of writing range related code should go to 
literally anyone else who likes templates in an attempt to fill 
the job Andrei Alexandrescu left.

rkompass <rkompass gmx.de> writes:

On Wednesday, 31 July 2024 at 20:26:16 UTC, monkyyy wrote:
The job of writing range related code should go
 to literally anyone else who likes templates in an attempt to 
 fill the job Andrei Alexandrescu left.

Can someone tell shortly what the the situation is with Andrei?

Mike Parker <aldacron gmail.com> writes:

On Friday, 2 August 2024 at 08:57:59 UTC, rkompass wrote:

 Can someone tell shortly what the the situation is with Andrei?

He stepped away from his role as co-maintainer and is no longer 
involved in the day to day stuff. But he's still the vice 
president and treasurer of the D Language Foundation and 
participates in our meetings when he's able.

As a reminder to everyone, please keep posts in the DIP Ideas 
forum focused on feedback on the ideas. If you'd like to discuss 
an unrelated topic, please start a new thread in the General 
forum and not here so that the discussion is easier to follow. 
Thanks.

monkyyy <crazymonkyyy gmail.com> writes:

On Friday, 2 August 2024 at 09:37:29 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
 On Friday, 2 August 2024 at 08:57:59 UTC, rkompass wrote:

 Can someone tell shortly what the the situation is with Andrei?

 But he's still the vice president and treasurer of the D 
 Language Foundation]

... Probaly should have looked that up

anyway, ranges and their consequences are important enough 
someone should have a near-full time job wondering about the v3 
details. And a job requirement of that should be liking templates.

Adam Wilson <flyboynw gmail.com> writes:

On Saturday, 3 August 2024 at 00:44:56 UTC, monkyyy wrote:
 anyway, ranges and their consequences are important enough 
 someone should have a near-full time job wondering about the v3 
 details. And a job requirement of that should be liking 
 templates.

As the fellow most closely associated with that idea I'd love for 
it to be a full-time job, but I don't see anybody stepping up to 
pay the requisite full-time salary. We all gotta eat.