• Basile B. (17/17) Dec 30 2024 If you look long enough at some code you'll see patterns like
• zjh (2/5) Dec 30 2024 This `.` is prone to be ambiguity.
• Basile B. (4/10) Dec 30 2024 `.=` would be a whole token. I already use this in styx since
• claptrap (2/19) Jan 01 Too much syntax sugar will lead to cavities.
• IchorDev (5/22) Jan 21 It’s a nice idea but it doesn’t help with the similar and perhaps
• monkyyy (6/15) Jan 21 ```d
• Atila Neves (3/20) Feb 12 I'm not sure `.=` (and other options?) occurs often enough for
• Walter Bright (2/3) Feb 15 Yes. Need more information on how common this pattern is.
• Quirin Schroll (5/22) Feb 13 It *will* fool newcomers into thinking `.` is a binary operator,

Basile B. <b2.temp gmx.com> writes:

If you look long enough at some code you'll see patterns like

```d
a = a.b;
```

this pattern strangely looks like binary assignment operators

```d
a = a + b;
```

which can be rewritten as

```d
a += b;
```

In the same fashion we could have

```d
a .= b;
```

The point is to evaluate te left hand side only once.

zjh <fqbqrr 163.com> writes:

On Monday, 30 December 2024 at 21:33:58 UTC, Basile B. wrote:
 ```d
 a .= b;
 ```


This `.` is prone to be ambiguity.

Basile B. <b2.temp gmx.com> writes:

On Tuesday, 31 December 2024 at 01:18:34 UTC, zjh wrote:
 On Monday, 30 December 2024 at 21:33:58 UTC, Basile B. wrote:
 ```d
 a .= b;
 ```


 This `.` is prone to be ambiguity.

`.=` would be a whole token. I already use this in styx since 
several monthes:

![img](https://i.imgur.com/AAKd8Vo.png)

claptrap <clap trap.com> writes:

On Monday, 30 December 2024 at 21:33:58 UTC, Basile B. wrote:
 If you look long enough at some code you'll see patterns like

 ```d
 a = a.b;
 ```

 this pattern strangely looks like binary assignment operators

 ```d
 a = a + b;
 ```

 which can be rewritten as

 ```d
 a += b;
 ```

 In the same fashion we could have

 ```d
 a .= b;
 ```

 The point is to evaluate te left hand side only once.

Too much syntax sugar will lead to cavities.

IchorDev <zxinsworld gmail.com> writes:

On Monday, 30 December 2024 at 21:33:58 UTC, Basile B. wrote:
 If you look long enough at some code you'll see patterns like

 ```d
 a = a.b;
 ```

 this pattern strangely looks like binary assignment operators

 ```d
 a = a + b;
 ```

 which can be rewritten as

 ```d
 a += b;
 ```

 In the same fashion we could have

 ```d
 a .= b;
 ```

 The point is to evaluate te left hand side only once.

It’s a nice idea but it doesn’t help with the similar and perhaps 
more commonly used pattern `slice = slice[1..$]`. Is there any 
way we could redesign the syntax so it works for any case of 
`Identifier = Identifier Expression`?

monkyyy <crazymonkyyy gmail.com> writes:

On Tuesday, 21 January 2025 at 20:55:34 UTC, IchorDev wrote:
 On Monday, 30 December 2024 at 21:33:58 UTC, Basile B. wrote:
 ```d
 a .= b;
 ```

 It’s a nice idea but it doesn’t help with the similar and 
 perhaps more commonly used pattern `slice = slice[1..$]`. Is 
 there any way we could redesign the syntax so it works for any 
 case of `Identifier = Identifier Expression`?

```d
auto pop(R)(R r)=>r[1..$];
slice.=pop;
```
?

Atila Neves <atila.neves gmail.com> writes:

On Monday, 30 December 2024 at 21:33:58 UTC, Basile B. wrote:
 If you look long enough at some code you'll see patterns like

 ```d
 a = a.b;
 ```

 this pattern strangely looks like binary assignment operators

 ```d
 a = a + b;
 ```

 which can be rewritten as

 ```d
 a += b;
 ```

 In the same fashion we could have

 ```d
 a .= b;
 ```

 The point is to evaluate te left hand side only once.

I'm not sure `.=` (and other options?) occurs often enough for 
this to be worth it.

Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:

 I'm not sure `.=` (and other options?) occurs often enough for this to be
worth it.

Yes. Need more information on how common this pattern is.

Note that the compiler doesn't evaluate the lvalue twice unless it has side
effects.

Quirin Schroll <qs.il.paperinik gmail.com> writes:

On Monday, 30 December 2024 at 21:33:58 UTC, Basile B. wrote:
 If you look long enough at some code you'll see patterns like

 ```d
 a = a.b;
 ```

 this pattern strangely looks like binary assignment operators

 ```d
 a = a + b;
 ```

 which can be rewritten as

 ```d
 a += b;
 ```

 In the same fashion we could have

 ```d
 a .= b;
 ```

 The point is to evaluate te left hand side only once.

It *will* fool newcomers into thinking `.` is a binary operator, 
but it’s not. The right-hand side cannot ever be something other 
than an *Identifier* followed by something. I don’t think I have 
ever seen someone put spaces around `.` exactly because of that.