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reply another lurker <lurk lurk.urk> writes:
Tango is dead effective today
Apr 30 2010
next sibling parent reply Arth Lloyd Flores <floresarthlloyd gmail.com> writes:
where did you get this news?

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 12:08 AM, another lurker <lurk lurk.urk> wrote:


 Tango is dead effective today
Apr 30 2010
parent reply "Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 12:16:01 -0400, Arth Lloyd Flores  
<floresarthlloyd gmail.com> wrote:


 where did you get this news?

 On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 12:08 AM, another lurker <lurk lurk.urk> wrote:


 Tango is dead effective today




It is not dead.  another lurker was just saying it is dead to him (he will  
not use it/has deleted it off of his hard drive).

-Steve
Apr 30 2010
parent reply Piotrek <starpit tlen.pl> writes:
W dniu 30.04.2010 19:42, Steven Schveighoffer pisze:

 On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 12:16:01 -0400, Arth Lloyd Flores
 <floresarthlloyd gmail.com> wrote:


 where did you get this news?

 On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 12:08 AM, another lurker <lurk lurk.urk> wrote:


 Tango is dead effective today




 It is not dead. another lurker was just saying it is dead to him (he
 will not use it/has deleted it off of his hard drive).

 -Steve


Hi

I've got impression that "another lurker" was trolling. Tango will never 
be dead - for D1 it the only option. So until D1 is used it's alive.

Different issue is that license chosen for Tango isn't the best one. I'm 
all the way with Walter that license for standard library should be 100% 
legal correct.

Cheers
Piotrek
Apr 30 2010
parent reply another lurker <lurker lurk.urk> writes:
In a manner I was trolling. But it is truth in it. I liked Tango but for long
time
suspected there is too much personal issues in Tango leaders. Today I know Tango
team wants to have famous not D to have success. Don't know how to express sorry
for poor English. Tango want force people use Tango. Tango is poison.

== Quote from Piotrek (starpit tlen.pl)'s article

 W dniu 30.04.2010 19:42, Steven Schveighoffer pisze:

 On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 12:16:01 -0400, Arth Lloyd Flores
 <floresarthlloyd gmail.com> wrote:


 where did you get this news?

 On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 12:08 AM, another lurker <lurk lurk.urk> wrote:


 Tango is dead effective today




 It is not dead. another lurker was just saying it is dead to him (he
 will not use it/has deleted it off of his hard drive).

 -Steve


 Hi
 I've got impression that "another lurker" was trolling. Tango will never
 be dead - for D1 it the only option. So until D1 is used it's alive.
 Different issue is that license chosen for Tango isn't the best one. I'm
 all the way with Walter that license for standard library should be 100%
 legal correct.
 Cheers
 Piotrek
Apr 30 2010
parent reply Piotrek <starpit tlen.pl> writes:
W dniu 30.04.2010 20:32, another lurker pisze:

 In a manner I was trolling. But it is truth in it. I liked Tango but for long
time
 suspected there is too much personal issues in Tango leaders. Today I know
Tango
 team wants to have famous not D to have success. Don't know how to express
sorry
 for poor English. Tango want force people use Tango. Tango is poison.


Ok. I get your point. But I don't blame Tango team for anything (even 
admire their hard work). Of cource it would be great if all developers 
worked together. It would be idyll. However, note that some Tango 
developers fight on two fronts.


The most sad thing is when someone starts to throw a hate at other after 
his failure in enforcing own will.

Piotrek
Apr 30 2010
parent reply Gurney Halleck <gurney.halleck dune.com> writes:
== Quote from Piotrek (starpit tlen.pl)'s article

 W dniu 30.04.2010 20:32, another lurker pisze:

 In a manner I was trolling. But it is truth in it. I liked Tango but for long
time
 suspected there is too much personal issues in Tango leaders. Today I know
Tango
 team wants to have famous not D to have success. Don't know how to express
sorry
 for poor English. Tango want force people use Tango. Tango is poison.


 Ok. I get your point. But I don't blame Tango team for anything (even
 admire their hard work). Of cource it would be great if all developers
 worked together. It would be idyll. However, note that some Tango
 developers fight on two fronts.
 The most sad thing is when someone starts to throw a hate at other after
 his failure in enforcing own will.
 Piotrek


Quite.

someone -----> Tango
other -----> Walter
own will -----> throwing Phobos away and adopting Tango

Here, FTFY.


--
Gurney Halleck
Apr 30 2010
parent reply Piotrek <starpit tlen.pl> writes:
W dniu 30.04.2010 21:02, Gurney Halleck pisze:

 The most sad thing is when someone starts to throw a hate at other after
 his failure in enforcing own will.
 Piotrek


 Quite.

 someone ----->  Tango
 other ----->  Walter
 own will ----->  throwing Phobos away and adopting Tango

 Here, FTFY.


 --
 Gurney Halleck


I didn't mean it. I've never seen key people from Tango to be hostile to 
Walter (they rather cooperate fruitfully).

On the other hand I can say that I understand those frustrated people 
(and I don't have Tango users on my mind but frustrated people in 
general- we had many examples in the past) . They as many other hoped to 
make D successful instantly. For some unknown reason this didn't happen 
(at least on a large scale - however we won't give up). After waiting 
some time and not seeing huge improvements they started witch-hunt.

Cheers
Piotrek
Apr 30 2010
parent reply Gurney Halleck <gurney.halleck dune.com> writes:
== Quote from Piotrek (starpit tlen.pl)'s article

 W dniu 30.04.2010 21:02, Gurney Halleck pisze:

 The most sad thing is when someone starts to throw a hate at other after
 his failure in enforcing own will.
 Piotrek


 Quite.

 someone ----->  Tango
 other ----->  Walter
 own will ----->  throwing Phobos away and adopting Tango

 Here, FTFY.


 --
 Gurney Halleck


 I didn't mean it. I've never seen key people from Tango to be hostile to
 Walter (they rather cooperate fruitfully).


Ow isn't that generous of them. Kindly please indulge us with a few examples.

--
Gurney Halleck
Apr 30 2010
parent reply Piotrek <starpit tlen.pl> writes:
W dniu 30.04.2010 22:03, Gurney Halleck pisze:

 Gurney Halleck


 I didn't mean it. I've never seen key people from Tango to be hostile to
 Walter (they rather cooperate fruitfully).


 Ow isn't that generous of them. Kindly please indulge us with a few examples.

 --
 Gurney Halleck


Examples of what?

Fruits? dmd, druntime, druntime
People? Sean, Don, Steven, ...

P.S.
I guess we can stop discussion and do something more useful. From me EOT 
(unless I couldn't resist ;).

Cheers
Piotrek
Apr 30 2010
parent Gurney Halleck <gurney.halleck dune.com> writes:
== Quote from Piotrek (starpit tlen.pl)'s article

 W dniu 30.04.2010 22:03, Gurney Halleck pisze:

 Gurney Halleck


 I didn't mean it. I've never seen key people from Tango to be hostile to
 Walter (they rather cooperate fruitfully).


 Ow isn't that generous of them. Kindly please indulge us with a few examples.

 --
 Gurney Halleck


 Examples of what?
 Fruits? dmd, druntime, druntime
 People? Sean, Don, Steven, ...


Your kidding, right? Sean, Don, Steven are not key people from Tango to
cooperate
fruitfully. Sean, Don, Steven left Tango to join Phobos fruitfully.


 P.S.
 I guess we can stop discussion and do something more useful. From me EOT
 (unless I couldn't resist ;).
 Cheers
 Piotrek


Nice try to have the last word.


--
Gurney Halleck
Apr 30 2010
prev sibling parent Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> writes:
another lurker wrote:

 Tango is dead effective today


Let's turn down the voltage here, way down, please.

Email is a classic medium for well-intentioned people to misunderstand each 
other. I've often discovered that differences via email melt away to nothing if 
we're in the same room having a beer.
May 01 2010