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reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github with 
dlang. While we're at it, project d-programming-language.org should be 
renamed dlang.org.

This may cause disruption. Thoughts?

Andrei
May 12 2013
next sibling parent reply "Peter Alexander" <peter.alexander.au gmail.com> writes:
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 15:08:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github 
 with dlang. While we're at it, project 
 d-programming-language.org should be renamed dlang.org.

 This may cause disruption. Thoughts?

 Andrei


I always thought D-programming-language was a bit wordy.

What kind of disruption are we talking about here though? Is this 
just an aesthetic change, or does it affect the git repro URLs? 
Having everyone update their remote URLs may be quite drastic 
(especially as many people may not follow the forums, and we have 
no way to announce this).
May 12 2013
parent reply Matt Soucy <msoucy csh.rit.edu> writes:
On 05/12/2013 11:14 AM, Peter Alexander wrote:

 On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 15:08:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github with
 dlang. While we're at it, project d-programming-language.org should be=





 renamed dlang.org.

 This may cause disruption. Thoughts?

 Andrei


=20
 I always thought D-programming-language was a bit wordy.
=20
 What kind of disruption are we talking about here though? Is this just
 an aesthetic change, or does it affect the git repro URLs? Having
 everyone update their remote URLs may be quite drastic (especially as
 many people may not follow the forums, and we have no way to announce
 this).


It would affect the repo urls as well. Which means that yes, all
references would need to be updated. Everywhere. So, as much as I think
it's a good idea, I feel that if it happens, it needs to be announced
well in advance to give people time to prepare.

Though, the point is a bit moot as someone already has the dlang name...
--
Matt Soucy
May 12 2013
parent Nick Sabalausky <SeeWebsiteToContactMe semitwist.com> writes:
On Sun, 12 May 2013 12:56:45 -0400
Matt Soucy <msoucy csh.rit.edu> wrote:


 On 05/12/2013 11:14 AM, Peter Alexander wrote:

 On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 15:08:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github with
 dlang. While we're at it, project d-programming-language.org
 should be renamed dlang.org.

 This may cause disruption. Thoughts?






Sounds worthwhile to me. I'm up for it.


 it needs to be
 announced well in advance to give people time to prepare.
 


I agree.
May 12 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent Kenji Hara <k.hara.pg gmail.com> writes:
I always agree that short good name is better than long ones.
At least to me, changing git remote setting is not so much laborious.

Kenji Hara


2013/5/13 Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org>


 I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github with dlang.
 While we're at it, project d-programming-language.org should be renamed
 dlang.org.

 This may cause disruption. Thoughts?

 Andrei
May 12 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Calin Grosan" <me me.com> writes:
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 15:08:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github 
 with dlang. While we're at it, project 
 d-programming-language.org should be renamed dlang.org.

 This may cause disruption. Thoughts?

 Andrei


I would go even further and try to encourage/enforce "dland" 
instead of "D" everywhere. It's often complicated to google stuff 
related to D because is just
one character long.
May 12 2013
parent Iain Buclaw <ibuclaw ubuntu.com> writes:
On 12 May 2013 18:29, Calin Grosan <me me.com> wrote:


 On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 15:08:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:


 I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github with
 dlang. While we're at it, project d-programming-language.org should be
 renamed dlang.org.

 This may cause disruption. Thoughts?

 Andrei


 I would go even further and try to encourage/enforce "dland" instead of
 "D" everywhere. It's often complicated to google stuff related to D because
 is just
 one character long.


No it isn't  =)

-- 
Iain Buclaw

*(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';
May 17 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 5/12/2013 8:08 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github with dlang.
While
 we're at it, project d-programming-language.org should be renamed dlang.org.

 This may cause disruption. Thoughts?


It'll also cause disruption in that google won't find it when searching for "d 
programming".
May 12 2013
parent reply "Brad Anderson" <eco gnuk.net> writes:
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 18:11:28 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:

 On 5/12/2013 8:08 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github 
 with dlang. While
 we're at it, project d-programming-language.org should be 
 renamed dlang.org.

 This may cause disruption. Thoughts?


 It'll also cause disruption in that google won't find it when 
 searching for "d programming".


There should really be a README in the root of the repo so that 
GitHub displays some information about the project.  That would 
solve the "d programming" issue and make it more discoverable in 
general.
May 12 2013
parent reply Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 5/12/2013 11:15 AM, Brad Anderson wrote:

 On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 18:11:28 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:

 It'll also cause disruption in that google won't find it when searching for "d
 programming".


 There should really be a README in the root of the repo so that GitHub displays
 some information about the project.  That would solve the "d programming" issue
 and make it more discoverable in general.


Not really. Having "d programming" in the URL gives it a much higher ranking.
May 12 2013
parent "Aleksandar Ruzicic" <krckoorascic gmail.com> writes:
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 18:50:59 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:

 On 5/12/2013 11:15 AM, Brad Anderson wrote:

 On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 18:11:28 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:

 It'll also cause disruption in that google won't find it when 
 searching for "d
 programming".


 There should really be a README in the root of the repo so 
 that GitHub displays
 some information about the project.  That would solve the "d 
 programming" issue
 and make it more discoverable in general.


 Not really. Having "d programming" in the URL gives it a much 
 higher ranking.


Not really. It used to be so, but (not so recently) Google 
changed that and in my experience (I do all-things-web for 
living, and I'was also doing SEO when it was new and trendy) 
good, semantic content gives much stronger ranking than domain 
name / URL.

So, README with "d programming" in root of each repo (and repo 
description) will be at least as good as having "d programming" 
as a part of URL.

Also, adding schema.org microdata to dlang.org would make the 
site more discoverable and results would me more presentable.

If there is an interest in pursuing this goal I would be glad to 
help with restructuring and even rewriting complete HTML/CSS of 
dlang.org.

I know that this would not be an easy thing to accomplish but I'm 
willing to try and I would of course appreciate any help I could 
get. Especially because I have bad track record of finishing 
things on which I work alone :)
May 14 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent "Brad Anderson" <eco gnuk.net> writes:
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 15:08:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github 
 with dlang. While we're at it, project 
 d-programming-language.org should be renamed dlang.org.

 This may cause disruption. Thoughts?

 Andrei


They are painfully long so I'm for it (and in the case of 
d-programming-language.org, inaccurate since dlang.org is the 
official url now).  The major contributors should weigh in though 
since it will affect them the most.

For those wondering how you resolve this after the change you 
just open .git/config for each repo and change 
"D-Programming-Language" remotes to say "dlang". Pretty easy.

A couple spots on the website that link to the repo would have to 
be updated but nothing you couldn't find and fix in less than a 
minute using a git grep.
May 12 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent Jacob Carlborg <doob me.com> writes:
On 2013-05-12 17:08, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github with
 dlang. While we're at it, project d-programming-language.org should be
 renamed dlang.org.

 This may cause disruption. Thoughts?


This will break all the URL's for the repository. It's not just the need 
to change the git configuration for all developers, tools my also depend 
on this. I have a tool, DVM, that depends on this. But since Github 
downloads are deprecated/removed it doesn't matter in my case.

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg
May 12 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent "Dicebot" <m.strashun gmail.com> writes:
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 15:08:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github 
 with dlang. While we're at it, project 
 d-programming-language.org should be renamed dlang.org.

 This may cause disruption. Thoughts?

 Andrei


Package maintainers will need to update build scripts but that is 
expected. I am all for it.
May 13 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent "Andrew Gough" <goughy gmail.com> writes:
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 15:08:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github 
 with dlang. While we're at it, project 
 d-programming-language.org should be renamed dlang.org.

 This may cause disruption. Thoughts?

 Andrei


+1

Also rename D-Programming-Deimos to dlang-deimos (or better 
dlang-ext) while you're at it.
May 13 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent "Dejan Lekic" <dejan.lekic gmail.com> writes:
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 15:08:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github 
 with dlang. While we're at it, project 
 d-programming-language.org should be renamed dlang.org.

 This may cause disruption. Thoughts?

 Andrei


+1
Makes sense to me.
May 13 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Mehrdad" <wfunction hotmail.com> writes:
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 15:08:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github 
 with dlang. While we're at it, project 
 d-programming-language.org should be renamed dlang.org.

 This may cause disruption. Thoughts?



https://github.com/blog/1508-repository-redirects-are-here
May 16 2013
next sibling parent Andrej Mitrovic <andrej.mitrovich gmail.com> writes:
On 5/17/13, Mehrdad <wfunction hotmail.com> wrote:

 On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 15:08:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github
 with dlang. While we're at it, project
 d-programming-language.org should be renamed dlang.org.

 This may cause disruption. Thoughts?



 https://github.com/blog/1508-repository-redirects-are-here


Wow, just in the nick of time. Cool. :)
May 16 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Adam Wilson" <flyboynw gmail.com> writes:
On Thu, 16 May 2013 17:39:58 -0700, Mehrdad <wfunction hotmail.com> wrote:


 On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 15:08:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github with  
 dlang. While we're at it, project d-programming-language.org should be  
 renamed dlang.org.

 This may cause disruption. Thoughts?



 https://github.com/blog/1508-repository-redirects-are-here


Well, that completely changes the calculus of the discussion.

-- 
Adam Wilson
IRC: LightBender
Project Coordinator
The Horizon Project
http://www.thehorizonproject.org/
May 16 2013
parent reply Andrej Mitrovic <andrej.mitrovich gmail.com> writes:
On 5/17/13, Adam Wilson <flyboynw gmail.com> wrote:

 Well, that completely changes the calculus of the discussion.


Imagine if a politician ever said that after a convincing counter-argument. :p
May 16 2013
parent Nick Sabalausky <SeeWebsiteToContactMe semitwist.com> writes:
On Fri, 17 May 2013 03:14:54 +0200
Andrej Mitrovic <andrej.mitrovich gmail.com> wrote:


 On 5/17/13, Adam Wilson <flyboynw gmail.com> wrote:

 Well, that completely changes the calculus of the discussion.


 
 Imagine if a politician ever said that after a convincing
 counter-argument. :p


I suspect this might be the result:

http://komplexify.com/images/2010/Divide-by-zero-5.jpg
May 16 2013
prev sibling parent reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 5/16/13 8:39 PM, Mehrdad wrote:

 On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 15:08:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github with
 dlang. While we're at it, project d-programming-language.org should be
 renamed dlang.org.

 This may cause disruption. Thoughts?



 https://github.com/blog/1508-repository-redirects-are-here


Well, let's do it!

https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dlang.org


Andrei
May 17 2013
parent "Brad Anderson" <eco gnuk.net> writes:
On Friday, 17 May 2013 at 15:40:40 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 On 5/16/13 8:39 PM, Mehrdad wrote:

 On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 15:08:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
 wrote:

 I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on 
 github with
 dlang. While we're at it, project d-programming-language.org 
 should be
 renamed dlang.org.

 This may cause disruption. Thoughts?



 https://github.com/blog/1508-repository-redirects-are-here


 Well, let's do it!

 https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dlang.org


 Andrei


That was convenient timing for Github to implement this feature.
May 17 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Andrej Mitrovic <andrej.mitrovich gmail.com> writes:
On 5/12/13, Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:

 I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github with
 dlang. While we're at it, project d-programming-language.org should be
 renamed dlang.org.

 This may cause disruption. Thoughts?

 Andrei


Also please rename the d-programming-language.org *project* into
dlang.org if you can. (the website files)
May 16 2013
parent Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 5/16/13 9:18 PM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:

 Also please rename the d-programming-language.org *project* into
 dlang.org if you can. (the website files)


Probably that's the only thing I'll end up renaming for now.

Andrei
May 17 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Mr. Anonymous" <mailnew4ster gmail.com> writes:
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 15:08:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github 
 with dlang. While we're at it, project 
 d-programming-language.org should be renamed dlang.org.

 This may cause disruption. Thoughts?

 Andrei


The URL in the description of dmd, druntime, tools, installer is 
also outdated.
May 17 2013
parent Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 5/17/13 11:53 AM, Mr. Anonymous wrote:

 On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 15:08:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github with
 dlang. While we're at it, project d-programming-language.org should be
 renamed dlang.org.

 This may cause disruption. Thoughts?

 Andrei


 The URL in the description of dmd, druntime, tools, installer is also
 outdated.


Fixed, thanks!

Andrei
May 18 2013
prev sibling parent "Brad Anderson" <eco gnuk.net> writes:
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 15:08:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github 
 with dlang. While we're at it, project 
 d-programming-language.org should be renamed dlang.org.

 This may cause disruption. Thoughts?

 Andrei


I suggest renaming the "installer" repo as well.  It's obvious 
the repo is for D installers (though not DMD specifically) when 
it's under the D-Programming-Language organization but when you 
fork it you get an installer repo under your username that is 
easy to confuse and may even conflict with other projects which 
may have the same common name.  Something like "dmd-installer" 
would do the trick, I think.
May 17 2013