digitalmars.D.learn - Working functionally with third party libraries
- "Jarl =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIEjDvGJlbnRoYWwi?= <jarl.andre gmail.com> (6/6) Jul 16 2015 Hi
- =?UTF-8?B?QWxpIMOHZWhyZWxp?= (7/13) Jul 16 2015 I've never used MongoCursor but judging from the fact that it has empty,...
- "Jarl =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIEjDvGJlbnRoYWwi?= <jarl.andre gmail.com> (4/24) Jul 16 2015 I wish I could delete this thread :) Problem was with lack of
- "Jarl =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIEjDvGJlbnRoYWwi?= <jarl.andre gmail.com> (11/31) Jul 16 2015 Ah well I got another error now. Using the following code:
- "Jarl =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIEjDvGJlbnRoYWwi?= <jarl.andre gmail.com> (3/5) Jul 16 2015 Solved by wrapping return statement in array(...)
- ZombineDev (12/47) Jul 16 2015 Most of the functions from std.algorithm and std.range return a
- "Jarl =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIEjDvGJlbnRoYWwi?= <jarl.andre gmail.com> (10/61) Jul 17 2015 Thanks. Its a lot more cleaner and syntactically readable having
- sigod (8/13) Jul 17 2015 Not true. There's paging in MongoDB. See [Cursors][0] and
- "Jarl =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIEjDvGJlbnRoYWwi?= <jarl.andre gmail.com> (2/15) Jul 17 2015 +1 good to know.
- Kagamin (6/11) Jul 17 2015 From the client point of view db is sort of lazy: data is
- "Jarl =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIEjDvGJlbnRoYWwi?= <jarl.andre gmail.com> (12/23) Jul 18 2015 Its simple. In most cases you do an advanced aggregated search in
- Kagamin (7/17) Jul 18 2015 How big is the slowdown you notice for lazy processing? Lazy
- "Jarl =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIEjDvGJlbnRoYWwi?= <jarl.andre gmail.com> (6/23) Jul 18 2015 I don't understand where you are going with this. I have solved
- Kagamin (5/8) Jul 18 2015 It's also good for saving resources, you don't spend time
- ZombineDev (114/123) Jul 17 2015 I'm almost certain that the D database driver returns eagerly all
- ZombineDev (2/8) Jul 17 2015 Discard this. I didn't read the previous comments.
- sigod (4/5) Jul 17 2015 What makes you think it's always more straightforward? Sometimes
- ZombineDev (6/11) Jul 17 2015 Well I just wrote without properly looking up what MongoDB does.
Hi using mongo with vibe.d is easy. But I would like to skip the foreach on MongoCursor? I mean, I want to use map!, filter! and reduce! on the resulting docs. Is there a fast way to convert MongoCursor to an array without resolving to ugly for loops with appender! ?
Jul 16 2015
On 07/16/2015 12:35 PM, "Jarl =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIEjDvGJlbnRoYWwi?= <jarl.andre gmail.com>" wrote:Hi using mongo with vibe.d is easy. But I would like to skip the foreach on MongoCursor? I mean, I want to use map!, filter! and reduce! on the resulting docs. Is there a fast way to convert MongoCursor to an array without resolving to ugly for loops with appender! ?I've never used MongoCursor but judging from the fact that it has empty, front, and popFront(), it is an InputRange: http://vibed.org/api/vibe.db.mongo.cursor/MongoCursor Have you tried using it with map and others? What errors do you get? Ali
Jul 16 2015
On Thursday, 16 July 2015 at 20:00:38 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:On 07/16/2015 12:35 PM, "Jarl =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIEjDvGJlbnRoYWwi?= <jarl.andre gmail.com>" wrote:I wish I could delete this thread :) Problem was with lack of auto completion for map!, each! etc in Eclipse. Please ignore :) Hush foreach away you go :)Hi using mongo with vibe.d is easy. But I would like to skip the foreach on MongoCursor? I mean, I want to use map!, filter! and reduce! on the resulting docs. Is there a fast way to convert MongoCursor to an array without resolving to ugly for loops with appender! ?I've never used MongoCursor but judging from the fact that it has empty, front, and popFront(), it is an InputRange: http://vibed.org/api/vibe.db.mongo.cursor/MongoCursor Have you tried using it with map and others? What errors do you get? Ali
Jul 16 2015
On Thursday, 16 July 2015 at 20:00:38 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:On 07/16/2015 12:35 PM, "Jarl =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIEjDvGJlbnRoYWwi?= <jarl.andre gmail.com>" wrote:Ah well I got another error now. Using the following code: Resource[] getResource() { auto coll = client.getCollection("app.resource"); return coll.find().map!(doc => deserialize!(BsonSerializer, Resource)(doc)); } I get this error: src/app.d(51,21): Error: cannot implicitly convert expression (map(coll.find())) of type MapResult!(__lambda1, MongoCursor!(Bson, Bson, typeof(null))) to Resource[]Hi using mongo with vibe.d is easy. But I would like to skip the foreach on MongoCursor? I mean, I want to use map!, filter! and reduce! on the resulting docs. Is there a fast way to convert MongoCursor to an array without resolving to ugly for loops with appender! ?I've never used MongoCursor but judging from the fact that it has empty, front, and popFront(), it is an InputRange: http://vibed.org/api/vibe.db.mongo.cursor/MongoCursor Have you tried using it with map and others? What errors do you get? Ali
Jul 16 2015
On Thursday, 16 July 2015 at 20:17:54 UTC, Jarl André Hübenthal wrote:return coll.find().map!(doc => deserialize!(BsonSerializer, Resource)(doc));Solved by wrapping return statement in array(...)
Jul 16 2015
On Thursday, 16 July 2015 at 20:17:54 UTC, Jarl André Hübenthal wrote:On Thursday, 16 July 2015 at 20:00:38 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:Most of the functions from std.algorithm and std.range return a lazy range which you need to iterate over go get its elements. To turn those ranges to an array you need add a .array at the end (http://dlang.org/phobos/std_array#array). Here's a larger example: http://d.readthedocs.org/en/latest/introduction.html. Another option is to return the elements as a range (by making return type of your function auto), instead of putting them into a newly allocated array (with .array). This way may be a bit more work (delaying the call to .array), but it can be quite efficient because it removes the need to allocate memory.On 07/16/2015 12:35 PM, "Jarl =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIEjDvGJlbnRoYWwi?= <jarl.andre gmail.com>" wrote:Ah well I got another error now. Using the following code: Resource[] getResource() { auto coll = client.getCollection("app.resource"); return coll.find().map!(doc => deserialize!(BsonSerializer, Resource)(doc)); } I get this error: src/app.d(51,21): Error: cannot implicitly convert expression (map(coll.find())) of type MapResult!(__lambda1, MongoCursor!(Bson, Bson, typeof(null))) to Resource[]Hi using mongo with vibe.d is easy. But I would like to skip the foreach on MongoCursor? I mean, I want to use map!, filter! and reduce! on the resulting docs. Is there a fast way to convert MongoCursor to an array without resolving to ugly for loops with appender! ?I've never used MongoCursor but judging from the fact that it has empty, front, and popFront(), it is an InputRange: http://vibed.org/api/vibe.db.mongo.cursor/MongoCursor Have you tried using it with map and others? What errors do you get? Ali
Jul 16 2015
On Thursday, 16 July 2015 at 20:41:21 UTC, ZombineDev wrote:On Thursday, 16 July 2015 at 20:17:54 UTC, Jarl André Hübenthal wrote:Thanks. Its a lot more cleaner and syntactically readable having .array at the end. But about laziness the same applies to clojure and scala. In clojure you must force evaluate the list, in scala you must to mostly the same as in D, put a toList or something at the end. Or loop it. But its pretty nice to know that there is laziness in D, but when I query mongo I expect all docs to be retrieved, since there are no paging in the underlying queries? Thus, having a lazy functionality on top of non lazy db queries seem a bit off dont you think?On Thursday, 16 July 2015 at 20:00:38 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:Most of the functions from std.algorithm and std.range return a lazy range which you need to iterate over go get its elements. To turn those ranges to an array you need add a .array at the end (http://dlang.org/phobos/std_array#array). Here's a larger example: http://d.readthedocs.org/en/latest/introduction.html. Another option is to return the elements as a range (by making return type of your function auto), instead of putting them into a newly allocated array (with .array). This way may be a bit more work (delaying the call to .array), but it can be quite efficient because it removes the need to allocate memory.On 07/16/2015 12:35 PM, "Jarl =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIEjDvGJlbnRoYWwi?= <jarl.andre gmail.com>" wrote:Ah well I got another error now. Using the following code: Resource[] getResource() { auto coll = client.getCollection("app.resource"); return coll.find().map!(doc => deserialize!(BsonSerializer, Resource)(doc)); } I get this error: src/app.d(51,21): Error: cannot implicitly convert expression (map(coll.find())) of type MapResult!(__lambda1, MongoCursor!(Bson, Bson, typeof(null))) to Resource[]Hi using mongo with vibe.d is easy. But I would like to skip the foreach on MongoCursor? I mean, I want to use map!, filter! and reduce! on the resulting docs. Is there a fast way to convert MongoCursor to an array without resolving to ugly for loops with appender! ?I've never used MongoCursor but judging from the fact that it has empty, front, and popFront(), it is an InputRange: http://vibed.org/api/vibe.db.mongo.cursor/MongoCursor Have you tried using it with map and others? What errors do you get? Ali
Jul 17 2015
On Friday, 17 July 2015 at 09:07:29 UTC, Jarl André Hübenthal wrote:But its pretty nice to know that there is laziness in D, but when I query mongo I expect all docs to be retrieved, since there are no paging in the underlying queries? Thus, having a lazy functionality on top of non lazy db queries seem a bit off dont you think?Not true. There's paging in MongoDB. See [Cursors][0] and documentation for `find` method. Also, look at [`vibe.d`'s implementation][1]. [0]: http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/core/cursors/ [1]: https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/vibe.d/blob/master/source/vibe/db/mongo/cursor.d
Jul 17 2015
On Friday, 17 July 2015 at 11:47:30 UTC, sigod wrote:On Friday, 17 July 2015 at 09:07:29 UTC, Jarl André Hübenthal wrote:+1 good to know.But its pretty nice to know that there is laziness in D, but when I query mongo I expect all docs to be retrieved, since there are no paging in the underlying queries? Thus, having a lazy functionality on top of non lazy db queries seem a bit off dont you think?Not true. There's paging in MongoDB. See [Cursors][0] and documentation for `find` method. Also, look at [`vibe.d`'s implementation][1]. [0]: http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/core/cursors/ [1]: https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/vibe.d/blob/master/source/vibe/db/mongo/cursor.d
Jul 17 2015
On Friday, 17 July 2015 at 09:07:29 UTC, Jarl André Hübenthal wrote:Or loop it. But its pretty nice to know that there is laziness in D, but when I query mongo I expect all docs to be retrieved, since there are no paging in the underlying queries? Thus, having a lazy functionality on top of non lazy db queries seem a bit off dont you think?From the client point of view db is sort of lazy: data is received from server as needed. Why would you want to put all data into an array before processing it? Why can't you process it from the range directly?
Jul 17 2015
On Friday, 17 July 2015 at 12:59:24 UTC, Kagamin wrote:On Friday, 17 July 2015 at 09:07:29 UTC, Jarl André Hübenthal wrote:Its simple. In most cases you do an advanced aggregated search in mongo, and what you get is then a mongocursor. Lets say I am retrieving all projects for a given customer where the project is started.. I really am in no interest of lazily evaluating this result, because I want to return this data to the client (browser) immediately. And lets say I am in a prototype phase where i haven't yet implemented all those nasty mongo queries, I want to be able to filter, map and reduce the result and work with arrays not some sort of non evaluated lazy MapResult. In scala luckily I have implicit converts, so that I can just stop thinking about it and have it converted automatically.Or loop it. But its pretty nice to know that there is laziness in D, but when I query mongo I expect all docs to be retrieved, since there are no paging in the underlying queries? Thus, having a lazy functionality on top of non lazy db queries seem a bit off dont you think?From the client point of view db is sort of lazy: data is received from server as needed. Why would you want to put all data into an array before processing it? Why can't you process it from the range directly?
Jul 18 2015
On Saturday, 18 July 2015 at 08:03:56 UTC, Jarl André Hübenthal wrote:Its simple. In most cases you do an advanced aggregated search in mongo, and what you get is then a mongocursor. Lets say I am retrieving all projects for a given customer where the project is started.. I really am in no interest of lazily evaluating this result, because I want to return this data to the client (browser) immediately.How big is the slowdown you notice for lazy processing? Lazy processing is believed to be faster because it's less resource consuming.And lets say I am in a prototype phase where i haven't yet implemented all those nasty mongo queries, I want to be able to filter, map and reduce the result and work with arrays not some sort of non evaluated lazy MapResult.I believe those algorithms were written to work on lazy ranges. What makes you think they can't do that?
Jul 18 2015
On Saturday, 18 July 2015 at 09:18:14 UTC, Kagamin wrote:On Saturday, 18 July 2015 at 08:03:56 UTC, Jarl André Hübenthal wrote:I don't understand where you are going with this. I have solved my problem. Laziness is good for lets say take 5 out of infinite results. When you ask for a complete list and want the complete list, you take all. In clojure you actually say that, "doall". In D .array does the same thing. Converts lazy to non lazy.Its simple. In most cases you do an advanced aggregated search in mongo, and what you get is then a mongocursor. Lets say I am retrieving all projects for a given customer where the project is started.. I really am in no interest of lazily evaluating this result, because I want to return this data to the client (browser) immediately.How big is the slowdown you notice for lazy processing? Lazy processing is believed to be faster because it's less resource consuming.And lets say I am in a prototype phase where i haven't yet implemented all those nasty mongo queries, I want to be able to filter, map and reduce the result and work with arrays not some sort of non evaluated lazy MapResult.I believe those algorithms were written to work on lazy ranges. What makes you think they can't do that?
Jul 18 2015
On Saturday, 18 July 2015 at 09:33:37 UTC, Jarl André Hübenthal wrote:I don't understand where you are going with this. I have solved my problem. Laziness is good for lets say take 5 out of infinite results.It's also good for saving resources, you don't spend time managing those resources and save that time to complete the processing earlier.
Jul 18 2015
On Friday, 17 July 2015 at 09:07:29 UTC, Jarl André Hübenthal wrote:Thanks. Its a lot more cleaner and syntactically readable having .array at the end. But about laziness the same applies to clojure and scala. In clojure you must force evaluate the list, in scala you must to mostly the same as in D, put a toList or something at the end. Or loop it. But its pretty nice to know that there is laziness in D, but when I query mongo I expect all docs to be retrieved, since there are no paging in the underlying queries? Thus, having a lazy functionality on top of non lazy db queries seem a bit off dont you think?I'm almost certain that the D database driver returns eagerly all the results that you've requested. The lazy stuff should happen when you start doing range operations after the results are returned from the database. It's not impossible to lazily query the database, but I think that the developers have chosen the eager approach, since it's more straightforward. Currently, in D most of the laziness is a convention, rather than something directly built into the language. There are many features that enable (indirectly) effective and easy to use lazy algorithms, but these features are have many other uses (templates, auto type deduction, compile-time reflection, etc.). The only two direct features are: 1) foreach can iterate over ranges (objects of structs or classes for which isInputRange is true. Here's an example: import std.algorithm.iteration : map, filter; foreach (name; persons.filter!(p => p.age > 18).map!(p => p.name)) writeln(name); import std.range.primitives : isInputRange; static assert ( isInputRange!( typeof( persons.filter!(p => p.age > 18).map!(p => p.name) ) ) == true ); See http://dlang.org/phobos/std_range_primitives.html#isInputRange 2) The lazy keyword - when you annotate function parameters with lazy they are evaluated not at the caller site, but only when needed like in other more traditional functional languages. For example: void calculate(int[] numbers) { import std.format : format; // ... logErrorIf(numbers[3] < 5, format("Expected value < 5, but got %s !", numbers[3])); // ^~~~~~~~~~~~ this is only evaluated // ... } void logErrorIf(bool condition, lazy string error_message) { if (condition) writeln(message); // ^~~~ here, if the condition is true } ( In D string is just an alias to immutable(char)[], so the above signature is identical to this: void logErrorIf(bool condition, lazy immutable(char)[] error_message) ) You can think of lazy parameters as implicit lambdas that return the expression passed as argument only when called. Here you can learn more about the lazy keyword http://dlang.org/lazy-evaluation.html Even though we have 'lazy' built into the language, most of the lazy algorithms do not use it. I just made a quick search through druntime and phobos for 'lazy' and 'range' (don't how correct it was - I admit I'm a unix noob) and here's what I got: // (I have DMD v2.067.1 installed) // lazy at the head of the function parameter list or in the tail $ find /usr/include/dmd/ -name '*.d' -exec cat {} \; | grep -c '(lazy \|, lazy ' 74 // just containing lazy $ find /usr/include/dmd/ -name '*.d' -exec cat {} \; | grep -c 'lazy' 138 // just containing range $ find /usr/include/dmd/ -name '*.d' -exec cat {} \; | grep -c 'range' 3548 I think that this because ranges are a more generic, flexible and powerful abstraction, and are more efficient maybe because they're easier to optimize to simple loops (eg. I've seen that the ldc compiler handles them very well). 'lazy' is still useful but generally I have seen it used for more simpler stuff (like the above 'lazy' example), and not for propagating state through range pipelines (or more simply - function chaining). So you'll see both functions that are lazy and functions that are not throughout Phobos (and most use ranges, as you can see from the results). Generally you can distinguish range functions from others by their signatures. Since most ranges in D are templated structs and not classes inheriting some interface (though there some, see http://dlang.org/phobos/std_range_interfaces#InputRange), functions that operate on ranges are templated at least on one range type: // Check if the function 'fun' is really a predicate enum isUnaryPredicate(alias fun, T) = is( typeof( fun(T.init) ) : bool); import std.range.primitives: isInputRange, ElementType; // templated on predicate and range type // ~~~~v~~~~ ~~v~~ auto filter1(alias predicate, Range)(Range range) if (isInputRange!Range && // <- some template isUnaryPredicate!(predicate, ElementType!Range)) // ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ constraints { return ... } // Even if you can't look at the function body, you // can guess that it can't be lazy because, it must // have the whole result, before it returns it. T[] filter2(alias predicate, T)(const(T)[] arrayToFilter) if (isUnaryPredicate!(predicate, T)) // ^~~~~~ a bit less template constraints { return ... } Here's a full example: http://dpaste.dzfl.pl/9023c63f9393
Jul 17 2015
On Friday, 17 July 2015 at 15:41:22 UTC, ZombineDev wrote:I'm almost certain that the D database driver returns eagerly all the results that you've requested. The lazy stuff should happen when you start doing range operations after the results are returned from the database. It's not impossible to lazily query the database, but I think that the developers have chosen the eager approach, since it's more straightforward.Discard this. I didn't read the previous comments.
Jul 17 2015
On Friday, 17 July 2015 at 15:41:22 UTC, ZombineDev wrote:eager approach, since it's more straightforward.What makes you think it's always more straightforward? Sometimes (like in this case with MongoDB) you cannot write eager approach without first writing lazy one.
Jul 17 2015
On Friday, 17 July 2015 at 17:56:51 UTC, sigod wrote:On Friday, 17 July 2015 at 15:41:22 UTC, ZombineDev wrote:Well I just wrote without properly looking up what MongoDB does. I thought collection.find() returned the first n elements, not a iterator (cursor in MongoDB's terms) and that it would be additional work split those n elements. Anyway, thanks for the correction, now I am bit more educated ;)eager approach, since it's more straightforward.What makes you think it's always more straightforward? Sometimes (like in this case with MongoDB) you cannot write eager approach without first writing lazy one.
Jul 17 2015