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digitalmars.D.learn - What is the sate of LDC?

reply BCS <none anon.com> writes:
Are there binary release of it?
Will it run under windows?
Mar 15 2009
parent reply "Denis Koroskin" <2korden gmail.com> writes:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:57:02 +0300, BCS <none anon.com> wrote:


 Are there binary release of it?
 Will it run under windows?


Please, visit http://dsource.org/projects/ldc

It has a "Project Status" section right on the front page.

In short, binary release is out, but you may get better results from using
trunk.
Mar 15 2009
parent reply BCS <none anon.com> writes:
Hello Denis,


 On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:57:02 +0300, BCS <none anon.com> wrote:
 

 Are there binary release of it?
 Will it run under windows?


 Please, visit http://dsource.org/projects/ldc
 
 It has a "Project Status" section right on the front page.
 
 In short, binary release is out, but you may get better results from
 using trunk.
 


Um, I found that before I posted.

It makes no reference to actually having binary releases out (but says they 
are forthcoming right next to a reference to a 2 month old blog post) and 
the word "windows" doesn't appear on the page at all.
Mar 15 2009
parent reply bearophile <bearophileHUGS lycos.com> writes:
BCS:

 It makes no reference to actually having binary releases out (but says they 
 are forthcoming right next to a reference to a 2 month old blog post) and 
 the word "windows" doesn't appear on the page at all.


A new "stable" release for 32 bit linux will probably come out in not too much
time. They are updating it continuously.

A binary release for Win is essentially in standby, because the LLVM doesn't
support exceptions on Win. I don't know how much time it will take for LLVM
developers to implement them, maybe a year, I don't know (but eventually they
will implement them, because they want to have LLDC to compile C++ code on Win
too). And I think Walter isn't interested in implement them for LLVM, despite
LDC looks like the best bet for the close future of D.

Bye,
bearophile
Mar 15 2009
next sibling parent BCS <none anon.com> writes:
Hello bearophile,


 BCS:
 

 It makes no reference to actually having binary releases out (but
 says they are forthcoming right next to a reference to a 2 month old
 blog post) and the word "windows" doesn't appear on the page at all.
 


 A new "stable" release for 32 bit linux will probably come out in not
 too much time. They are updating it continuously.
 
 A binary release for Win is essentially in standby, because the LLVM
 doesn't support exceptions on Win. I don't know how much time it will
 take for LLVM developers to implement them, maybe a year, I don't know
 (but eventually they will implement them, because they want to have
 LLDC to compile C++ code on Win too). And I think Walter isn't
 interested in implement them for LLVM, despite LDC looks like the best
 bet for the close future of D.
 


Thank you, that is the exact info I was looking for.
Mar 15 2009
prev sibling parent reply Georg Wrede <georg.wrede iki.fi> writes:
bearophile wrote:

 [...] despite LDC looks like the best bet for the close future of D.


Would you care to elaborate?
Mar 21 2009
parent reply bearophile <bearophileHUGS lycos.com> writes:
Georg Wrede:

 bearophile wrote:

 [...] despite LDC looks like the best bet for the close future of D.


 
 Would you care to elaborate?


I know very little about compilers, so it's better for you to ask similar
questions to LDC developers or other people. Most people around here seems to
know much more than me about compilers of C-like languages.
So my opinion isn't much reliable, but if you want to know it: I think LLVM
backend is currently unfinished (no exceptions on Win) but it's being developed
strongly enough, and eventually it will surely have exceptions. DMD back-end is
very old, developed very little, and usually it doesn't produce much efficient
executables, compared to other compilers (Despite LLVM produces code that most
of the times is slower than code produced by GCC, LDC already usually produces
code faster than DMD, and probably it will get better).
LLVM is also open source.
So to me it seems LDC has a future more open than DMD.
(Eventually I'd like to see a project like dlang, a D clang-like front-end for
LLVM written in D, replace LDC, but this will require a ton of work. So it's
mostly a dream now).

Bye,
bearophile
Mar 21 2009
parent Lutger <lutger.blijdestijn gmail.com> writes:
bearophile wrote:

..

 (Eventually I'd like to see a project like dlang, a D clang-like front-end 


for LLVM written in D, replace LDC, but this will require a ton of work. So 
it's mostly a dream now).

Sounds like dil: http://code.google.com/p/dil/
Mar 24 2009