digitalmars.D.learn - Replacement of std.stream
- DlangLearner (7/7) Jun 27 2015 I will convert a Java program into D. The original Java code is
- Baz (7/15) Jun 28 2015 You can use std.stream. There is no candidate to replace it. Even
- Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d-learn (20/35) Jun 29 2015 No. It was decided at dconf that it was going to be deprecated and then
- Charles Hixson (18/61) Jul 19 2015 The documentation of std.mmfile.MmFile makes it an unacceptable
- Jesse Phillips (6/11) Jul 20 2015 Documentation improvements are certainly welcome. However, it is
- cym13 (3/11) Jun 30 2015 It should be noted that you can always take the code from
I will convert a Java program into D. The original Java code is based on the class RandomeAccessFile which essentially defines a set of methods for read/write Int/Long/Float/String etc. The module std.stream seems to be a good fit for this job, but in its documentation, it is marked deprecated. So I'd like to know what is the replacement for this module. If I don't use this module, what is the other apporach I should use. Thanks for help.
Jun 27 2015
On Sunday, 28 June 2015 at 05:04:48 UTC, DlangLearner wrote:I will convert a Java program into D. The original Java code is based on the class RandomeAccessFile which essentially defines a set of methods for read/write Int/Long/Float/String etc. The module std.stream seems to be a good fit for this job, but in its documentation, it is marked deprecated. So I'd like to know what is the replacement for this module. If I don't use this module, what is the other apporach I should use. Thanks for help.You can use std.stream. There is no candidate to replace it. Even if tomorrow someone comes with one, it has to be reviewed, accepted in std.experimental and after a while it would totally replace the old one. I think it's safe to say that std.stream will exist for at least 2 years in its current shape.
Jun 28 2015
On Sunday, June 28, 2015 11:14:57 Baz via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote:On Sunday, 28 June 2015 at 05:04:48 UTC, DlangLearner wrote:No. It was decided at dconf that it was going to be deprecated and then removed within a relatively short period of time. In fact, it would have been deprecated with the next release, but there was a problem with the deprecation and the ddoc build, so the deprecation was temporarily reverted. But once that's sorted out, it's going to be deprecated, and it won't be around much longer at all. We decided that it was worse to leave it in saying that it was going to be replaced without having come up with anything for years than to leave it in. And given that std.stream rarely even comes up in discussions and that no one has proposed a replacement, Andrei thinks that it's a sign that there really isn't much demand for it anyway. For the most part, simply using std.stdio.File or std.mmfile.MmFile with ranges does what streams need to do just fine. Maybe someone will come up with a replacement for std.stream eventually, but there really doesn't seem to be much call for it. Regardless, until someone comes up with a replacement, we're simply not going have a stream-based I/O (though ranges are close - which is part of why no one has felt the need to replace std.stream strongly enough to actually do it). - Jonathan M DavisI will convert a Java program into D. The original Java code is based on the class RandomeAccessFile which essentially defines a set of methods for read/write Int/Long/Float/String etc. The module std.stream seems to be a good fit for this job, but in its documentation, it is marked deprecated. So I'd like to know what is the replacement for this module. If I don't use this module, what is the other apporach I should use. Thanks for help.You can use std.stream. There is no candidate to replace it. Even if tomorrow someone comes with one, it has to be reviewed, accepted in std.experimental and after a while it would totally replace the old one. I think it's safe to say that std.stream will exist for at least 2 years in its current shape.
Jun 29 2015
On Monday, 29 June 2015 at 12:00:14 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:On Sunday, June 28, 2015 11:14:57 Baz via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote:The documentation of std.mmfile.MmFile makes it an unacceptable replacement for std.stream. I can't even tell if it's features are missing, or just unintelligible. It rather looks as if you need to have enough RAM to hold the entire file in memory at once, but I'm not even sure of that. Perhaps this is just a documentation problem. Perhaps. But it's certainly a real problem. std.stdio.File is a much more reasonable substitute, but the documentation needs to be improved...probably lifted into a major heading, perhaps std.stdFile or some such. And examples. As it is it's buried where it gets overlooked...of course, that would tend to break any code that depended on using it is where it is now, so this should be done quickly, or this will end up being a continuing problem. (Even as it is, much of my code will stop compiling when this change is finalized, as I have used std.stream most of the time for years, not knowing of any alternative.)On Sunday, 28 June 2015 at 05:04:48 UTC, DlangLearner wrote:No. It was decided at dconf that it was going to be deprecated and then removed within a relatively short period of time. In fact, it would have been deprecated with the next release, but there was a problem with the deprecation and the ddoc build, so the deprecation was temporarily reverted. But once that's sorted out, it's going to be deprecated, and it won't be around much longer at all. We decided that it was worse to leave it in saying that it was going to be replaced without having come up with anything for years than to leave it in. And given that std.stream rarely even comes up in discussions and that no one has proposed a replacement, Andrei thinks that it's a sign that there really isn't much demand for it anyway. For the most part, simply using std.stdio.File or std.mmfile.MmFile with ranges does what streams need to do just fine. Maybe someone will come up with a replacement for std.stream eventually, but there really doesn't seem to be much call for it. Regardless, until someone comes up with a replacement, we're simply not going have a stream-based I/O (though ranges are close - which is part of why no one has felt the need to replace std.stream strongly enough to actually do it). - Jonathan M DavisI will convert a Java program into D. The original Java code is based on the class RandomeAccessFile which essentially defines a set of methods for read/write Int/Long/Float/String etc. The module std.stream seems to be a good fit for this job, but in its documentation, it is marked deprecated. So I'd like to know what is the replacement for this module. If I don't use this module, what is the other apporach I should use. Thanks for help.You can use std.stream. There is no candidate to replace it. Even if tomorrow someone comes with one, it has to be reviewed, accepted in std.experimental and after a while it would totally replace the old one. I think it's safe to say that std.stream will exist for at least 2 years in its current shape.
Jul 19 2015
"Jesse Phillips" <Jesse.K.Phillips+D gmail.com> On Sunday, 19 July 2015 at 17:34:27 UTC, Charles Hixson wrote:The documentation of std.mmfile.MmFile makes it an unacceptable replacement for std.stream. I can't even tell if it's features are missing, or just unintelligible. It rather looks as if you need to have enough RAM to hold the entire file in memory at once, but I'm not even sure of that.Documentation improvements are certainly welcome. However, it is just a wrapper over the posix functionality for memory mapped files: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mmap No need to store the whole file into RAM, the OS will manage paging for you.
Jul 20 2015
On Sunday, 28 June 2015 at 05:04:48 UTC, DlangLearner wrote:I will convert a Java program into D. The original Java code is based on the class RandomeAccessFile which essentially defines a set of methods for read/write Int/Long/Float/String etc. The module std.stream seems to be a good fit for this job, but in its documentation, it is marked deprecated. So I'd like to know what is the replacement for this module. If I don't use this module, what is the other apporach I should use. Thanks for help.It should be noted that you can always take the code from std.stream and use it as a classical non-standard library.
Jun 30 2015