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reply Rainer Schuetze <r.sagitario gmx.de> writes:
To the LDC maintainers:

Thanks for your excellent work on LDC!

I have prepared an installer of Visual D that comes with both DMD and
LDC, so there is no hassle for new users to get up and running (at least
if they use Visual Studio). I'm planning to add Visual D to the Visual
Studio Gallery to make it discoverable from inside Visual Studio, too.

Before going live I think it might be good to ask: Is it ok with you to
distribute LDC with Visual D?

Rainer
May 31 2019
next sibling parent reply kinke <noone nowhere.com> writes:
On Friday, 31 May 2019 at 07:23:36 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

 To the LDC maintainers:

 Thanks for your excellent work on LDC!

 I have prepared an installer of Visual D that comes with both 
 DMD and LDC, so there is no hassle for new users to get up and 
 running (at least if they use Visual Studio). I'm planning to 
 add Visual D to the Visual Studio Gallery to make it 
 discoverable from inside Visual Studio, too.

 Before going live I think it might be good to ask: Is it ok 
 with you to distribute LDC with Visual D?

 Rainer


Sounds great, thx for your work.

Pls provide some more details - will there be a fixed bundled 
version, or will the installer download the latest stable version 
on demand? What package is it, the official multilib one?
May 31 2019
parent reply Rainer Schuetze <r.sagitario gmx.de> writes:
On 31/05/2019 09:36, kinke wrote:

 On Friday, 31 May 2019 at 07:23:36 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

 To the LDC maintainers:

 Thanks for your excellent work on LDC!

 I have prepared an installer of Visual D that comes with both DMD and
 LDC, so there is no hassle for new users to get up and running (at
 least if they use Visual Studio). I'm planning to add Visual D to the
 Visual Studio Gallery to make it discoverable from inside Visual
 Studio, too.

 Before going live I think it might be good to ask: Is it ok with you
 to distribute LDC with Visual D?

 Rainer


 
 Sounds great, thx for your work.
 
 Pls provide some more details - will there be a fixed bundled version,
 or will the installer download the latest stable version on demand? What
 package is it, the official multilib one?


The installer comes with latest multilib release preinstalled (currently
1.15.0), but Visual D looks for updates via the github API.

The user can select whether stable or pre-releases should be checked.
The 7z package is downloaded and unpacked into a common root folder (it
would be nice if the current naming conventions and folders in the
archive are kept ;-))
May 31 2019
parent reply kinke <noone nowhere.com> writes:
On Friday, 31 May 2019 at 08:00:53 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

 The installer comes with latest multilib release preinstalled 
 (currently 1.15.0), but Visual D looks for updates via the 
 github API.


Ah, nice. We also have 
http://ldc-developers.github.io/LATEST[_BETA] to check the latest 
versions (e.g., those are used by Travis for `d: ldc[-beta]`).


 it would be nice if the current naming conventions and folders 
 in the archive are kept ;-)


Heh, yeah that's the reason I haven't switched to 
semver-compatibility for beta releases (`-beta.1` vs. `-beta1`)...
May 31 2019
parent Rainer Schuetze <r.sagitario gmx.de> writes:
On 31/05/2019 10:07, kinke wrote:

 On Friday, 31 May 2019 at 08:00:53 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

 The installer comes with latest multilib release preinstalled
 (currently 1.15.0), but Visual D looks for updates via the github API.


 
 Ah, nice. We also have http://ldc-developers.github.io/LATEST[_BETA] to
 check the latest versions (e.g., those are used by Travis for `d:
 ldc[-beta]`).


This is similar to dmd, but it needs more guessing what the actual file
name is.


 it would be nice if the current naming conventions and folders in the
 archive are kept ;-)


 
 Heh, yeah that's the reason I haven't switched to semver-compatibility
 for beta releases (`-beta.1` vs. `-beta1`)...


I don't think that would be a problem. It's currently required that the
top level folder in the archive has the same name as the archive itself.
May 31 2019
prev sibling next sibling parent reply IGotD- <nise nise.com> writes:
On Friday, 31 May 2019 at 07:23:36 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

 To the LDC maintainers:

 Thanks for your excellent work on LDC!

 I have prepared an installer of Visual D that comes with both 
 DMD and LDC, so there is no hassle for new users to get up and 
 running (at least if they use Visual Studio). I'm planning to 
 add Visual D to the Visual Studio Gallery to make it 
 discoverable from inside Visual Studio, too.

 Before going live I think it might be good to ask: Is it ok 
 with you to distribute LDC with Visual D?

 Rainer


No it would not be ok distribute LDC with visual studio for me. I 
like LDC because it is stand alone, you can just put it somewhere 
without any installer and it works. Also Visual D is Windows only 
but LDC works with many architectures, so for many Visual D would 
just be extra baggage.

I think perhaps you meant to bundle Visual D with LDC or DMD? 
That could perhaps be a possibility or the installer gives the 
user the option to download DMD or LDC.
Aug 09 2019
parent Mike Parker <aldacron gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 9 August 2019 at 07:29:20 UTC, IGotD- wrote:

 No it would not be ok distribute LDC with visual studio for me. 
 I like LDC because it is stand alone, you can just put it 
 somewhere without any installer and it works. Also Visual D is 
 Windows only but LDC works with many architectures, so for many 
 Visual D would just be extra baggage.


He is not asking to ship Visual D in the LDC distribution. He's 
asking if it's okay to include LDC in the Visual D distribution:

"I have prepared an installer of Visual D that comes with both 
DMD and LDC"


 I think perhaps you meant to bundle Visual D with LDC or DMD?


The way the verb "bundle" is typically used, "bundle A with B" 
means putting A inside the B package. (The same can be said about 
your usage of "distribute" in "distribute LDC with visual studio" 
in the first paragraph). So no, "bundle Visual D with LDC or DMD" 
is not what he means.

So if I'm properly reading the intent behind your words, you've 
got it backwards :-) What you're suggesting is actually what he's 
asking.
Aug 09 2019
prev sibling parent Johan Engelen <j j.nl> writes:
On Friday, 31 May 2019 at 07:23:36 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

 To the LDC maintainers:

 Thanks for your excellent work on LDC!

 I have prepared an installer of Visual D that comes with both 
 DMD and LDC, so there is no hassle for new users to get up and 
 running (at least if they use Visual Studio). I'm planning to 
 add Visual D to the Visual Studio Gallery to make it 
 discoverable from inside Visual Studio, too.


This is all pretty great Rainer,  +1 from me!

-Johan
Aug 11 2019