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reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
The Wiki page http://wiki.dlang.org/Building_DMD could be easily 
reorganized to make better.

Currently it uses sections such as "Getting the sources", "Building the 
sources", etc. Within each seion there's a Posix section and a Windows 
section.

However, folks using e.g. Windows have no interest in Posix and 
shouldn't have to skip through portions of the document.

So the better organization would be to fork the page into two, and have 
http://wiki.dlang.org/Building_DMD link to them:

* Building on Windows
* Building on Posix

Could someone please look into this? I see the main author is BBaz, is 
(s)he active on this forum?


Thanks,

Andrei
Oct 02 2015
parent reply Atila Neves <atila.neves gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 2 October 2015 at 11:06:52 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

 The Wiki page http://wiki.dlang.org/Building_DMD could be 
 easily reorganized to make better.

 Currently it uses sections such as "Getting the sources", 
 "Building the sources", etc. Within each seion there's a Posix 
 section and a Windows section.

 However, folks using e.g. Windows have no interest in Posix and 
 shouldn't have to skip through portions of the document.

 So the better organization would be to fork the page into two, 
 and have http://wiki.dlang.org/Building_DMD link to them:

 * Building on Windows
 * Building on Posix

 Could someone please look into this? I see the main author is 
 BBaz, is (s)he active on this forum?


 Thanks,

 Andrei


Better yet would be to have a process so simple that it doesn't 
require a wiki.

Atila
Oct 03 2015
next sibling parent reply Marco Leise <Marco.Leise gmx.de> writes:
Am Sat, 03 Oct 2015 10:38:51 +0000
schrieb Atila Neves <atila.neves gmail.com>:


 On Friday, 2 October 2015 at 11:06:52 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
 wrote:

 The Wiki page http://wiki.dlang.org/Building_DMD could be 
 easily reorganized to make better.

 Currently it uses sections such as "Getting the sources", 
 "Building the sources", etc. Within each seion there's a Posix 
 section and a Windows section.

 However, folks using e.g. Windows have no interest in Posix and 
 shouldn't have to skip through portions of the document.

 So the better organization would be to fork the page into two, 
 and have http://wiki.dlang.org/Building_DMD link to them:

 * Building on Windows
 * Building on Posix

 Could someone please look into this? I see the main author is 
 BBaz, is (s)he active on this forum?


 Thanks,

 Andrei


 
 Better yet would be to have a process so simple that it doesn't 
 require a wiki.
 
 Atila


You mean Posix: make && make install ?
Sure, but what about dependencies, an explanation of the
self-hosting process and optional variables ? Even when it is
simple I tend to look at such a Wiki first to know if I'm
missing out on some flag-enabled feature or to know where the
files will install (/opt, /usr/local, ... )

-- 
Marco
Oct 03 2015
parent Kapps <opantm2+spam gmail.com> writes:
On Saturday, 3 October 2015 at 12:41:36 UTC, Marco Leise wrote:

 Am Sat, 03 Oct 2015 10:38:51 +0000
 schrieb Atila Neves <atila.neves gmail.com>:


 
 Better yet would be to have a process so simple that it 
 doesn't require a wiki.
 
 Atila


 You mean Posix: make && make install ?
 Sure, but what about dependencies, an explanation of the
 self-hosting process and optional variables ? Even when it is
 simple I tend to look at such a Wiki first to know if I'm
 missing out on some flag-enabled feature or to know where the
 files will install (/opt, /usr/local, ... )


And then on Windows you have confusing things like the Phobos and 
druntime make files defaulting to VS2012 with no indication of 
doing so, leading to error messages like link.exe is missing.
Oct 03 2015
prev sibling parent Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 10/03/2015 06:38 AM, Atila Neves wrote:

 On Friday, 2 October 2015 at 11:06:52 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 The Wiki page http://wiki.dlang.org/Building_DMD could be easily
 reorganized to make better.

 Currently it uses sections such as "Getting the sources", "Building
 the sources", etc. Within each seion there's a Posix section and a
 Windows section.

 However, folks using e.g. Windows have no interest in Posix and
 shouldn't have to skip through portions of the document.

 So the better organization would be to fork the page into two, and
 have http://wiki.dlang.org/Building_DMD link to them:

 * Building on Windows
 * Building on Posix

 Could someone please look into this? I see the main author is BBaz, is
 (s)he active on this forum?


 Thanks,

 Andrei


 Better yet would be to have a process so simple that it doesn't require
 a wiki.


Well yeah there's always ropes to learn. The fewer the better.

Funny aside - having moved recently to an empty house I've had to 
assemble quite a bit of furniture. There are two kinds of instructions: 
some describe each step in all languages, some describe all steps in 
each language. Guess which are easier to follow :o).


Andrei
Oct 03 2015