• Anonymouse (4/4) May 19 2021 As a FYI, freenode staff have stepped down and are urging people
• Basile B. (8/12) May 20 2021 While the move to libera was fast and good, I think the official
• Dejan Lekic (10/13) May 20 2021 I can only agree. OFTC is there for almost equally long as
• FeepingCreature (7/15) May 20 2021 Not paranoid enough! What if Andrew Lee is an OFTC false flag?!

Anonymouse <zorael gmail.com> writes:

As a FYI, freenode staff have stepped down and are urging people 
to move to alternatives.

https://gist.github.com/joepie91/df80d8d36cd9d1bde46ba018af497409

https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/ng804w/the_freenode_resignation_faq_or_what_the_fuck_is/

Basile B. <b2.temp gmx.com> writes:

On Wednesday, 19 May 2021 at 22:00:10 UTC, Anonymouse wrote:
 As a FYI, freenode staff have stepped down and are urging 
 people to move to alternatives.

 https://gist.github.com/joepie91/df80d8d36cd9d1bde46ba018af497409

 https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/ng804w/the_freenode_resignation_faq_or_what_the_fuck_is/

While the move to libera was fast and good, I think the official 
D channel should rather choose [OFTC](https://www.oftc.net/).

By choosing to follow on libera, we still play the game of the 
FreeNode internal war, which means that we are potentially 
weaponized, i.e "util idiots".

[OFTC](https://www.oftc.net/) is nice, it'is used for exampled by 
the LLVM project for their main IRC channel.

Dejan Lekic <dejan.lekic gmail.com> writes:

On Thursday, 20 May 2021 at 13:09:05 UTC, Basile B. wrote:
 While the move to libera was fast and good, I think the 
 official D channel should rather choose 
 [OFTC](https://www.oftc.net/).

I can only agree. OFTC is there for almost equally long as 
FreeNode, and some popular projects picked it for their official 
IRC channels (GCC, Debian, Ceph, OpenJDK, FLTK, etc). I have 
created D channel on OFTC 15 years ago and there are few people 
who are on both networks all the time. It makes more sense to me 
to move to a rock-solid network that exists for over 2 decades, 
than to a new network that still needs to be tested.

PS. D would not be the only channel to move to OFTC, there are 
many that already did or plan to.

FeepingCreature <feepingcreature gmail.com> writes:

On Thursday, 20 May 2021 at 13:09:05 UTC, Basile B. wrote:
 While the move to libera was fast and good, I think the 
 official D channel should rather choose 
 [OFTC](https://www.oftc.net/).

 By choosing to follow on libera, we still play the game of the 
 FreeNode internal war, which means that we are potentially 
 weaponized, i.e "util idiots".

 [OFTC](https://www.oftc.net/) is nice, it'is used for exampled 
 by the LLVM project for their main IRC channel.

Not paranoid enough! What if Andrew Lee is an OFTC false flag?!

Exactly to avoid this sort of schism, I'm in favor of just moving 
to Libera first as a closed group, because it's designed as "The 
Freenode you know, minus Andrew Lee." If that turns out to be an 
issue, well, we just trained how to do server moves and OFTC is 
still there.