• Mike (16/16) Aug 15 2014 I'm wondering if someone could give me a historical perspective
• H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d (23/38) Aug 15 2014 It used to be a website that listed D projects... back in the days of
• Mike Parker (18/31) Aug 16 2014 The guy who created and maintained it was able to have it hosted on one
• Justin C Calvarese (19/35) Aug 16 2014 The guy who ran dsource, Brad, disappeared from the D scene quite

"Mike" <none none.com> writes:

I'm wondering if someone could give me a historical perspective 
on dsource.org:  * What is (was) it?
* Is it still being maintained, or does it exist simply for 
historical reasons?
* Is there material on dsource.org that this community would like 
migrated to wiki.dlang.org?
* Is there any desire to retire it?

I found quite a bit of valuable learning material at 
http://www.dsource.org/projects/tutorials/wiki#TheTutorialsProject. 
  I've been studying D for about 9 months, and this is the first 
time I've seen it.

I'm wondering, if I verify the examples and such still compile 
and are relevant, would this community like it migrated to 
wiki.dlang.org?

Thanks,

Mike

"H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d" <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:

On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 03:20:18AM +0000, Mike via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 I'm wondering if someone could give me a historical perspective on
 dsource.org:
 * What is (was) it?

It used to be a website that listed D projects... back in the days of
D1.


 * Is it still being maintained, or does it exist simply for historical
 reasons?

AFAIK, it hasn't been maintained for years.


 * Is there material on dsource.org that this community would like
 migrated to wiki.dlang.org?

I don't know.


 * Is there any desire to retire it?

I think at some point we wanted to retire it, but IIRC, somebody managed
to get a hold of the site maintainer, so presumably someone will be
updating it soon. Hopefully. Or retiring it for good.


 I found quite a bit of valuable learning material at
 http://www.dsource.org/projects/tutorials/wiki#TheTutorialsProject.
 I've been studying D for about 9 months, and this is the first time
 I've seen it.
 
 I'm wondering, if I verify the examples and such still compile and are
 relevant, would this community like it migrated to wiki.dlang.org?

[...]

Probably most (all?) of the material on dsource.org are still specific
to D1, which is no longer supported. I'd say that D1 and D2 have
diverged significantly, so even if the code compiles with D2 it may not
reflect current best practices and style. You are probably better off
reading Andrei's "The D programming language", Adam Ruppe's D Cookbook,
Ali Cehreli's D textbook, or, if you feel confident, studying Phobos
source code.(*)


(*) It's actually not as scary as it sounds; D has done wonders in
making it possible to write standard library code in (mostly) very
readable and maintainable style. I've learned a great deal myself just
reading Phobos source code.


T

-- 
"No, John.  I want formats that are actually useful, rather than over-featured
megaliths that address all questions by piling on ridiculous internal links in
forms which are hideously over-complex." -- Simon St. Laurent on xml-dev

Mike Parker <aldacron gmail.com> writes:

On 8/16/2014 2:16 PM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 03:20:18AM +0000, Mike via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 I'm wondering if someone could give me a historical perspective on
 dsource.org:
 * What is (was) it?

 It used to be a website that listed D projects... back in the days of
 D1.

Not just listed, but hosted.

 * Is it still being maintained, or does it exist simply for historical
 reasons?

 AFAIK, it hasn't been maintained for years.

The guy who created and maintained it was able to have it hosted on one 
of his employer's servers (The Sankaty Group, in the copyright footers 
of the dsource.org pages). According to his linkedin profile, he left 
that company a few years back. I assume that's one reason why the 
maintenance dropped off until it disappeared. I've heard that he was 
still responsive to emails for a while, but for all intents and purposes 
its a graveyard and he was the only one in the D community with the keys 
to the gate. I can't be sure, but when Rainer finally moved VisualD to 
github he may have been the last (or at least, one of the last) to still 
be using dsource. There's no reason for its continued existence that I 
know of other than that no one with access has killed it off yet.

 * Is there any desire to retire it?

 I think at some point we wanted to retire it, but IIRC, somebody managed
 to get a hold of the site maintainer, so presumably someone will be
 updating it soon. Hopefully. Or retiring it for good.

If someone did get in touch with him, I hope they just delete it. It 
serves no purpose now other than to confuse newcomers.

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"Justin C Calvarese" <jccalvarese+d gmail.com> writes:

On Saturday, 16 August 2014 at 03:20:20 UTC, Mike wrote:
 I'm wondering if someone could give me a historical perspective 
 on dsource.org:  * What is (was) it?
 * Is it still being maintained, or does it exist simply for 
 historical reasons?
 * Is there material on dsource.org that this community would 
 like migrated to wiki.dlang.org?
 * Is there any desire to retire it?

 I found quite a bit of valuable learning material at 
 http://www.dsource.org/projects/tutorials/wiki#TheTutorialsProject.
  I've been studying D for about 9 months, and this is the first 
 time I've seen it.

 I'm wondering, if I verify the examples and such still compile 
 and are relevant, would this community like it migrated to 
 wiki.dlang.org?

 Thanks,

 Mike

The guy who ran dsource, Brad, disappeared from the D scene quite 
a while ago. I expect he could be reached via e-mail if the 
community reaches consensus about what changes we want for 
dsource. Due to my involvement with the tutorial project in the 
early days, I might still have a few minor superpowers with my 
"administratorish" log-in. (If someone has trouble getting their 
dsource account activated, I might be able to help out.)

I'd hate to see the whole site shut down abruptly since I suspect 
there's still some useful information in a few of the SVN 
repositories and some of the historical forum content is 
interesting to me. I know some of the code has been migrated to 
GitHub, but I believe most of the dsource material only exists on 
dsource.

A while back, I edited some project pages for projects that 
seemed abandoned to alert whoever came to that page of the 
abandoned status, but it's probably been several years since I 
did much of that.

-- jcc7