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reply "Trass3r" <un known.com> writes:
What's the stance on using C++11 features in the dmd source code 
in the future?
Dec 29 2011
next sibling parent reply "Vladimir Panteleev" <vladimir thecybershadow.net> writes:
On Thursday, 29 December 2011 at 15:58:55 UTC, Trass3r wrote:

 What's the stance on using C++11 features in the dmd source 
 code in the future?


Well, how many C++11 features does DMC support?
Dec 29 2011
parent reply "Trass3r" <un known.com> writes:
On Thursday, 29 December 2011 at 16:00:47 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev 
wrote:

 On Thursday, 29 December 2011 at 15:58:55 UTC, Trass3r wrote:

 What's the stance on using C++11 features in the dmd source 
 code in the future?


 Well, how many C++11 features does DMC support?


*sigh*
Totally forgot about that. Can't we finally get rid of that 
crappy toolchain :'(
btw, wasn't there a patch to make dmd compile with VisualStudio 
cl?
Dec 29 2011
next sibling parent reply Robert Clipsham <robert octarineparrot.com> writes:
On 29/12/2011 16:16, Trass3r wrote:

 On Thursday, 29 December 2011 at 16:00:47 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:

 On Thursday, 29 December 2011 at 15:58:55 UTC, Trass3r wrote:

 What's the stance on using C++11 features in the dmd source code in
 the future?


 Well, how many C++11 features does DMC support?


 *sigh*
 Totally forgot about that. Can't we finally get rid of that crappy
 toolchain :'(
 btw, wasn't there a patch to make dmd compile with VisualStudio cl?


http://www.digitalmars.com/ctg/CPP0x-Language-Implementation.html

-- 
Robert
http://octarineparrot.com/
Dec 31 2011
parent Trass3r <un known.com> writes:
 http://www.digitalmars.com/ctg/CPP0x-Language-Implementation.html


It supports decltype but not auto??
Range for loop would also be nice to have.
Dec 31 2011
prev sibling parent reply Sean Cavanaugh <WorksOnMyMachine gmail.com> writes:
On 12/29/2011 10:16 AM, Trass3r wrote:

 On Thursday, 29 December 2011 at 16:00:47 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:

 On Thursday, 29 December 2011 at 15:58:55 UTC, Trass3r wrote:

 What's the stance on using C++11 features in the dmd source code in
 the future?


 Well, how many C++11 features does DMC support?


 *sigh*
 Totally forgot about that. Can't we finally get rid of that crappy
 toolchain :'(
 btw, wasn't there a patch to make dmd compile with VisualStudio cl?


Visual Studio support of C++11 is pretty weak (or maybe more accurately 
'spotty') in VS2010, and this will be virtually unchanged in the next 
version.  On the plus side what is there (rvalue references, auto) is 
nice to have.  On the downside what is missing is really sad (varaidic 
templates, range for, the full set of C++11 type traits, the new unicode 
string types and literals, initializer lists, and a few others I can't 
remember easily)
Jan 01 2012
next sibling parent reply Mail Mantis <mail.mantis.88 gmail.com> writes:
2012/1/2 Sean Cavanaugh <WorksOnMyMachine gmail.com>


 On 12/29/2011 10:16 AM, Trass3r wrote:


 On Thursday, 29 December 2011 at 16:00:47 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:


 On Thursday, 29 December 2011 at 15:58:55 UTC, Trass3r wrote:


 What's the stance on using C++11 features in the dmd source code in
 the future?


 Well, how many C++11 features does DMC support?


 *sigh*
 Totally forgot about that. Can't we finally get rid of that crappy
 toolchain :'(
 btw, wasn't there a patch to make dmd compile with VisualStudio cl?


 Visual Studio support of C++11 is pretty weak (or maybe more accurately
 'spotty') in VS2010, and this will be virtually unchanged in the next
 version.  On the plus side what is there (rvalue references, auto) is nice
 to have.  On the downside what is missing is really sad (varaidic
 templates, range for, the full set of C++11 type traits, the new unicode
 string types and literals, initializer lists, and a few others I can't
 remember easily)

 One of the reasons I've switched to g++ lately. As for D - it already


natively supports many C++11 features(or vise-versa), but I wonder if the
user-defined literals will ever make into it.
Jan 01 2012
parent reply Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 1/1/2012 4:30 PM, Mail Mantis wrote:

As for D - it already natively
 supports many C++11 features(or vise-versa), but I wonder if the user-defined
 literals will ever make into it.


With CTFE D has far better than user defined literals.
Jan 01 2012
parent reply Mail Mantis <mail.mantis.88 gmail.com> writes:
2012/1/2 Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com>


 On 1/1/2012 4:30 PM, Mail Mantis wrote:


 As for D - it already natively
 supports many C++11 features(or vise-versa), but I wonder if the
 user-defined
 literals will ever make into it.


 With CTFE D has far better than user defined literals.


If I undestood you correctly...
Potentially, yes, But, from syntactical point of view, is there any
predefined mean to make something like "a = 2_x + 3_y * 180_deg"
expression? I'm asking because the "mixin( foo( import( .... )))" are a bit
too unfriendly in terms of error reports they yield. If there are better
ways of doing so, I'd definitely want to know it.
Jan 01 2012
parent reply "Adam D. Ruppe" <destructionator gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 2 January 2012 at 01:14:43 UTC, Mail Mantis wrote:

 If I undestood you correctly...
 Potentially, yes, But, from syntactical point of view, is there 
 any [...]


http://drdobbs.com/blogs/tools/229401068

In std.conv, the octal template is one example:

int a = octal!755;

Another thing I like doing is using simple structs.
For instance:

struct Html { string src; }

Usage:

Html myhtml = Html("<b>some text</b>");



Which is really easy too.
Jan 01 2012
parent Mail Mantis <mail.mantis.88 gmail.com> writes:
2012/1/2 Adam D. Ruppe <destructionator gmail.com>


 On Monday, 2 January 2012 at 01:14:43 UTC, Mail Mantis wrote:


 If I undestood you correctly...
 Potentially, yes, But, from syntactical point of view, is there any [...]


 http://drdobbs.com/blogs/**tools/229401068<http://drdobbs.com/blogs/tools/229401068>

 In std.conv, the octal template is one example:

 int a = octal!755;


And the above example may be rewritten as:
a = x!2 + y!3 * deg!180;
Thank you, totally forgot about this
Jan 02 2012
prev sibling parent =?UTF-8?B?QWxleCBSw7hubmUgUGV0ZXJzZW4=?= <xtzgzorex gmail.com> writes:
On 02-01-2012 01:15, Sean Cavanaugh wrote:

 On 12/29/2011 10:16 AM, Trass3r wrote:

 On Thursday, 29 December 2011 at 16:00:47 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:

 On Thursday, 29 December 2011 at 15:58:55 UTC, Trass3r wrote:

 What's the stance on using C++11 features in the dmd source code in
 the future?


 Well, how many C++11 features does DMC support?


 *sigh*
 Totally forgot about that. Can't we finally get rid of that crappy
 toolchain :'(
 btw, wasn't there a patch to make dmd compile with VisualStudio cl?


 Visual Studio support of C++11 is pretty weak (or maybe more accurately
 'spotty') in VS2010, and this will be virtually unchanged in the next
 version. On the plus side what is there (rvalue references, auto) is
 nice to have. On the downside what is missing is really sad (varaidic
 templates, range for, the full set of C++11 type traits, the new unicode
 string types and literals, initializer lists, and a few others I can't
 remember easily)


It has lambdas. That's already a HUGE plus, imo more important than most 
other features.

- Alex
Jan 02 2012
prev sibling parent Trass3r <un known.com> writes:
Did a quick test, dmd compiles fine with -gnu++0x -fpermissive (gcc 4.6.1)
Can anyone try with dmc?
Jan 04 2012