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reply dolive <dolive89 sina.com> writes:
Suggest the d Language and phobos lib ( And other lib )  assigns name to use
the tallest phrase in the phrase of  word frequency .  This, should study
toward the java .  This is also the key that the java jdk source code easily
reads 

This is also one of the java successful keys .

thank you very much !
Apr 30 2009
next sibling parent reply bearophile <bearophileHUGS lycos.com> writes:
dolive:

 Suggest the d Language and phobos lib ( And other lib )  assigns name to use
the tallest phrase in the phrase of  word frequency .  This, should study
toward the java .  This is also the key that the java jdk source code easily
reads 
 This is also one of the java successful keys .
 thank you very much !


Are you trying to suggest to follow the Zipf's law in naming things in
Phobos/Tango?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zipf%27s_law
I agree.

Bye,
bearophile
Apr 30 2009
parent reply dolive <dolive89 sina.com> writes:
bearophile д:


 dolive:

 Suggest the d Language and phobos lib ( And other lib )  assigns name to use
the tallest phrase in the phrase of  word frequency .  This, should study
toward the java .  This is also the key that the java jdk source code easily
reads 
 This is also one of the java successful keys .
 thank you very much !


 
 Are you trying to suggest to follow the Zipf's law in naming things in
Phobos/Tango?
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zipf%27s_law
 I agree.
 
 Bye,
 bearophile



yesis so
Apr 30 2009
parent Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
dolive wrote:

 bearophile д:
 

 dolive:

 Suggest the d Language and phobos lib ( And other lib )  assigns name to use
the tallest phrase in the phrase of  word frequency .  This, should study
toward the java .  This is also the key that the java jdk source code easily
reads 
 This is also one of the java successful keys .
 thank you very much !


 Are you trying to suggest to follow the Zipf's law in naming things in
Phobos/Tango?
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zipf%27s_law
 I agree.

 Bye,
 bearophile


 
 
 yesis so


I'm not very sure. That would suggest using exceedingly common names 
(the, on, go, do, be, and, use...) which are often imprecise because 
they are used in a variety of contexts (hence their frequency). I often 
prefer a word that has a precise meaning.

Andrei
Apr 30 2009
prev sibling next sibling parent reply dolive <dolive89 sina.com> writes:
Andrei Alexandrescu д:


 dolive wrote:

 bearophile д:
 

 dolive:

 Suggest the d Language and phobos lib ( And other lib )  assigns name to use
the tallest phrase in the phrase of  word frequency .  This, should study
toward the java .  This is also the key that the java jdk source code easily
reads 
 This is also one of the java successful keys .
 thank you very much !


 Are you trying to suggest to follow the Zipf's law in naming things in
Phobos/Tango?
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zipf%27s_law
 I agree.

 Bye,
 bearophile


 
 
 yesis so


 
 I'm not very sure. That would suggest using exceedingly common names 
 (the, on, go, do, be, and, use...) which are often imprecise because 
 they are used in a variety of contexts (hence their frequency). I often 
 prefer a word that has a precise meaning.
 
 Andrei


Ok, has a precise meaning is a premise. 
when have more than two phrases, choosing high that of  use the tallest phrase
in the phrase ( Function name )  of  word frequency .  

For example: 
      getData and fetchData.

the choice getData
Apr 30 2009
parent reply "Denis Koroskin" <2korden gmail.com> writes:
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:24:24 +0400, dolive <dolive89 sina.com> wrote:


 Andrei Alexandrescu дµ½:


 dolive wrote:

 bearophile дµ½:


 dolive:

 Suggest the d Language and phobos lib ( And other lib )  assigns  






 name to use the tallest phrase in the phrase of  word frequency .   
 This, should study toward the java .  This is also the key that the  
 java jdk source code easily reads

 This is also one of the java successful keys .
 thank you very much !


 Are you trying to suggest to follow the Zipf's law in naming things  




 in Phobos/Tango?

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zipf%27s_law
 I agree.

 Bye,
 bearophile



 yes£¬is so


 I'm not very sure. That would suggest using exceedingly common names
 (the, on, go, do, be, and, use...) which are often imprecise because
 they are used in a variety of contexts (hence their frequency). I often
 prefer a word that has a precise meaning.

 Andrei


 Ok, has a precise meaning is a premise.
 when have more than two phrases, choosing high that of  use the tallest  
 phrase in the phrase ( Function name )  of  word frequency .

 For example:
       getData and fetchData.

 the choice getData


No offense, but I can't believe someone who knows very little of English makes
naming suggestions to native language speakers.
Maybe there is no difference between get and fetch to you, but there sure is
for others. I believe there are cases when one name is preferable over another
for clarity.
Apr 30 2009
parent dolive <dolive89 sina.com> writes:
Denis Koroskin д:


 On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:24:24 +0400, dolive <dolive89 sina.com> wrote:
 

 Andrei Alexandrescu дµ½:


 dolive wrote:

 bearophile дµ½:


 dolive:

 Suggest the d Language and phobos lib ( And other lib )  assigns  






 name to use the tallest phrase in the phrase of  word frequency .   
 This, should study toward the java .  This is also the key that the  
 java jdk source code easily reads

 This is also one of the java successful keys .
 thank you very much !


 Are you trying to suggest to follow the Zipf's law in naming things  




 in Phobos/Tango?

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zipf%27s_law
 I agree.

 Bye,
 bearophile



 yes£¬is so


 I'm not very sure. That would suggest using exceedingly common names
 (the, on, go, do, be, and, use...) which are often imprecise because
 they are used in a variety of contexts (hence their frequency). I often
 prefer a word that has a precise meaning.

 Andrei


 Ok, has a precise meaning is a premise.
 when have more than two phrases, choosing high that of  use the tallest  
 phrase in the phrase ( Function name )  of  word frequency .

 For example:
       getData and fetchData.

 the choice getData


 
 No offense, but I can't believe someone who knows very little of English makes
naming suggestions to native language speakers.
 Maybe there is no difference between get and fetch to you, but there sure is
for others. I believe there are cases when one name is preferable over another
for clarity.
 


Sorry, my right and wrong English nation of, also not too acquaint with to
English, so there will be such suggestion 

choosing high that of  use the tallest  phrase in the phrase ( Function name )

Hope to use the most in common use most in simple use most in easy use phrase  

thanks
Apr 30 2009
prev sibling parent reply hasen <hasan.aljudy gmail.com> writes:
dolive wrote:

 Suggest the d Language and phobos lib ( And other lib )  assigns name to use
the tallest phrase in the phrase of  word frequency .  This, should study
toward the java .  This is also the key that the java jdk source code easily
reads 
 
 This is also one of the java successful keys .
 
 thank you very much !


I don't really understand .. you are suggesting to use short names or 
long names?

Java is known for having very very very long names

org.name.domain.SomeReallyLongClassName.SomeBoringMethodName( 
myObject.YetAnotherBoringMethodName( 10 ) )

Doing stuff like that is a ReallyBadIdeaInMyHumbleOpinion
May 01 2009
next sibling parent reply dolive <dolive89 sina.com> writes:
hasen д:


 dolive wrote:

 Suggest the d Language and phobos lib ( And other lib )  assigns name to use
the tallest phrase in the phrase of  word frequency .  This, should study
toward the java .  This is also the key that the java jdk source code easily
reads 
 
 This is also one of the java successful keys .
 
 thank you very much !


 
 I don't really understand .. you are suggesting to use short names or 
 long names?
 
 Java is known for having very very very long names
 
 org.name.domain.SomeReallyLongClassName.SomeBoringMethodName( 
 myObject.YetAnotherBoringMethodName( 10 ) )
 
 Doing stuff like that is a ReallyBadIdeaInMyHumbleOpinion



Certainly short name is good 

Primary school student  it can know of  short name


dolive
May 01 2009
parent superdan <super dan.org> writes:
dolive Wrote:


 hasen �:
 

 dolive wrote:

 Suggest the d Language and phobos lib ( And other lib )  assigns name to use
the tallest phrase in the phrase of  word frequency .  This, should study
toward the java .  This is also the key that the java jdk source code easily
reads 
 
 This is also one of the java successful keys .
 
 thank you very much !


 
 I don't really understand .. you are suggesting to use short names or 
 long names?
 
 Java is known for having very very very long names
 
 org.name.domain.SomeReallyLongClassName.SomeBoringMethodName( 
 myObject.YetAnotherBoringMethodName( 10 ) )
 
 Doing stuff like that is a ReallyBadIdeaInMyHumbleOpinion


 
 
 Certainly short name is good ��
 
 Primary school student  it can know of  short name
 
 
 dolive


then i guess 95% of my private functions are doShit() and 95% of my public
functions are doStuff().
May 01 2009
prev sibling parent Steve Teale <steve.teale britseyeview.com> writes:
hasen Wrote:


 dolive wrote:

 Suggest the d Language and phobos lib ( And other lib )  assigns name to use
the tallest phrase in the phrase of  word frequency .  This, should study
toward the java .  This is also the key that the java jdk source code easily
reads 
 
 This is also one of the java successful keys .
 
 thank you very much !


 
 I don't really understand .. you are suggesting to use short names or 
 long names?
 
 Java is known for having very very very long names
 
 org.name.domain.SomeReallyLongClassName.SomeBoringMethodName( 
 myObject.YetAnotherBoringMethodName( 10 ) )
 
 Doing stuff like that is a ReallyBadIdeaInMyHumbleOpinion


Undefined identifier - do you mean:
"ReallyAVeryBadIdeaInMyHumbleOpinionAndTheOpinionOfManyOthers".
May 01 2009