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reply dolive <dolive89 sina.com> writes:
bug fix is slower,should speed up the progress, fix more than 200 a month.
Very much looking forward to, thanks all !

dolive
Oct 17 2009
next sibling parent reply Eldar Insafutdinov <e.insafutdinov gmail.com> writes:
dolive Wrote:

 bug fix is slower,should speed up the progress, fix more than 200 a month.
 Very much looking forward to, thanks all !
 
 dolive
 
 
What have you personally done to make it possible?
Oct 17 2009
next sibling parent dolive <dolive89 sina.com> writes:
Eldar Insafutdinov ミエオス:

 dolive Wrote:
 
 bug fix is slower,should speed up the progress, fix more than 200 a month.
 Very much looking forward to, thanks all !
 
 dolive
 
 
What have you personally done to make it possible?
sorry」ャI am a beginning student」ャI would like to try to do IDE,but I found that there are 1324 issues in http://d.puremagic.com/issues/. thank you re me ! dolive
Oct 17 2009
prev sibling parent reply dolive <dolive89 sina.com> writes:
Eldar Insafutdinov ミエオス:

 dolive Wrote:
 
 bug fix is slower,should speed up the progress, fix more than 200 a month.
 Very much looking forward to, thanks all !
 
 dolive
 
 
What have you personally done to make it possible?
sorry」ャI am a beginning student」ャI would like to try to do IDE,but I found that there are 1324 issues in http://d.puremagic.com/issues/. thank you re me ! dolive
Oct 17 2009
parent "Denis Koroskin" <2korden gmail.com> writes:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:55:44 +0400, dolive <dolive89 sina.com> wrote:

 Eldar Insafutdinov =C3=90=C2=B4=C2=B5=C2=BD:

 dolive Wrote:

 bug fix is slower,should speed up the progress, fix more than 200 a=
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 month.
 Very much looking forward to, thanks all !

 dolive
What have you personally done to make it possible?
sorry=C2=A3=C2=ACI am a beginning student=C2=A3=C2=ACI would like to t=
ry to do IDE,but I =
 found that there are 1324 issues in http://d.puremagic.com/issues/.

 thank you re me !

 dolive
You can't measure software quality by a number of bug reports. For = example, GCC bugzilla contains more than 5000 bug reports. Does it mean = = anything to you? Number of bug reports may only indicate how large user base is, not how = = buggy it is. You must know that there is no software without bugs. An introduction to "Applied Microsoft .Net Framework Programming" by = Jeffrey Richter contains the following section that I'd like to quote: """ THIS BOOK HAS NO MISTAKES This section's title clearly states what I want to say. But we all know = = that it is a flat-out lie. My editors and I have worked hard to bring yo= u = the most accurate, up-to-date, in-depth, easy-to-read, = painless-to-understand, bug-free information. Even with a fantastic team= = assembled, things inevitably slip through the cracks. If you find any = mistakes in this book (especially bugs), I would greatly appreciate it i= f = you would send the mistakes to me at: ... """
Oct 17 2009
prev sibling next sibling parent reply dolive <dolive89 sina.com> writes:
Denis Koroskin ミエオス:

 On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:55:44 +0400, dolive <dolive89 sina.com> wrote:
 
 Eldar Insafutdinov テ青エツオツス:

 dolive Wrote:

 bug fix is slower,should speed up the progress, fix more than 200 a  
month.
 Very much looking forward to, thanks all !

 dolive
What have you personally done to make it possible?
sorryツ」ツャI am a beginning studentツ」ツャI would like to try to do IDE,but I found that there are 1324 issues in http://d.puremagic.com/issues/. thank you re me ! dolive
You can't measure software quality by a number of bug reports. For example, GCC bugzilla contains more than 5000 bug reports. Does it mean anything to you? Number of bug reports may only indicate how large user base is, not how buggy it is. You must know that there is no software without bugs. An introduction to "Applied Microsoft .Net Framework Programming" by Jeffrey Richter contains the following section that I'd like to quote: """ THIS BOOK HAS NO MISTAKES This section's title clearly states what I want to say. But we all know that it is a flat-out lie. My editors and I have worked hard to bring you the most accurate, up-to-date, in-depth, easy-to-read, painless-to-understand, bug-free information. Even with a fantastic team assembled, things inevitably slip through the cracks. If you find any mistakes in this book (especially bugs), I would greatly appreciate it if you would send the mistakes to me at: ... """
ok」ャthank you ! I understand, but I have heard many complain about the voice of the compiler crashes. thank you re me ! dolive
Oct 17 2009
parent reply Don <nospam nospam.com> writes:
dolive wrote:
 Denis Koroskin ミエオス:
 
 On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:55:44 +0400, dolive <dolive89 sina.com> wrote:

 Eldar Insafutdinov テ青エツオツス:

 dolive Wrote:

 bug fix is slower,should speed up the progress, fix more than 200 a  
month.
 Very much looking forward to, thanks all !

 dolive
What have you personally done to make it possible?
sorryツ」ツャI am a beginning studentツ」ツャI would like to try to do IDE,but I found that there are 1324 issues in http://d.puremagic.com/issues/. thank you re me ! dolive
You can't measure software quality by a number of bug reports. For example, GCC bugzilla contains more than 5000 bug reports. Does it mean anything to you? Number of bug reports may only indicate how large user base is, not how buggy it is. You must know that there is no software without bugs. An introduction to "Applied Microsoft .Net Framework Programming" by Jeffrey Richter contains the following section that I'd like to quote: """ THIS BOOK HAS NO MISTAKES This section's title clearly states what I want to say. But we all know that it is a flat-out lie. My editors and I have worked hard to bring you the most accurate, up-to-date, in-depth, easy-to-read, painless-to-understand, bug-free information. Even with a fantastic team assembled, things inevitably slip through the cracks. If you find any mistakes in this book (especially bugs), I would greatly appreciate it if you would send the mistakes to me at: ... """
ok」ャthank you ! I understand, but I have heard many complain about the voice of the compiler crashes.
Yes. That was a major problem. In April this year there were about 110 known causes of compiler crashes and internal compiler errors. I've attacked that problem with considerable success. In the latest release of DMD1, that is down to 4 (and I've submitted a patch for one of those). There are 6 left for DMD2. Of course new ones can creep in when new features are added. If you stick to DMD1, you shouldn't encounter them any more. This is largely a solved problem.
Oct 19 2009
parent reply dolive <dolive89 sina.com> writes:
Don ミエオス:

 dolive wrote:
 Denis Koroskin ミエオス:
 
 On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:55:44 +0400, dolive <dolive89 sina.com> wrote:

 Eldar Insafutdinov テ青エツオツス:

 dolive Wrote:

 bug fix is slower,should speed up the progress, fix more than 200 a  
month.
 Very much looking forward to, thanks all !

 dolive
What have you personally done to make it possible?
sorryツ」ツャI am a beginning studentツ」ツャI would like to try to do IDE,but I found that there are 1324 issues in http://d.puremagic.com/issues/. thank you re me ! dolive
You can't measure software quality by a number of bug reports. For example, GCC bugzilla contains more than 5000 bug reports. Does it mean anything to you? Number of bug reports may only indicate how large user base is, not how buggy it is. You must know that there is no software without bugs. An introduction to "Applied Microsoft .Net Framework Programming" by Jeffrey Richter contains the following section that I'd like to quote: """ THIS BOOK HAS NO MISTAKES This section's title clearly states what I want to say. But we all know that it is a flat-out lie. My editors and I have worked hard to bring you the most accurate, up-to-date, in-depth, easy-to-read, painless-to-understand, bug-free information. Even with a fantastic team assembled, things inevitably slip through the cracks. If you find any mistakes in this book (especially bugs), I would greatly appreciate it if you would send the mistakes to me at: ... """
ok」ャthank you ! I understand, but I have heard many complain about the voice of the compiler crashes.
Yes. That was a major problem. In April this year there were about 110 known causes of compiler crashes and internal compiler errors. I've attacked that problem with considerable success. In the latest release of DMD1, that is down to 4 (and I've submitted a patch for one of those). There are 6 left for DMD2. Of course new ones can creep in when new features are added. If you stick to DMD1, you shouldn't encounter them any more. This is largely a solved problem.
it's great job」ャ When d2 can achieve the status of d1 ? thank you very much to all !
Oct 19 2009
parent reply Don <nospam nospam.com> writes:
dolive wrote:
 Don ミエオス:
 
 dolive wrote:
 Denis Koroskin ミエオス:

 On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:55:44 +0400, dolive <dolive89 sina.com> wrote:

 Eldar Insafutdinov テ青エツオツス:

 dolive Wrote:

 bug fix is slower,should speed up the progress, fix more than 200 a  
month.
 Very much looking forward to, thanks all !

 dolive
What have you personally done to make it possible?
sorryツ」ツャI am a beginning studentツ」ツャI would like to try to do IDE,but I found that there are 1324 issues in http://d.puremagic.com/issues/. thank you re me ! dolive
You can't measure software quality by a number of bug reports. For example, GCC bugzilla contains more than 5000 bug reports. Does it mean anything to you? Number of bug reports may only indicate how large user base is, not how buggy it is. You must know that there is no software without bugs. An introduction to "Applied Microsoft .Net Framework Programming" by Jeffrey Richter contains the following section that I'd like to quote: """ THIS BOOK HAS NO MISTAKES This section's title clearly states what I want to say. But we all know that it is a flat-out lie. My editors and I have worked hard to bring you the most accurate, up-to-date, in-depth, easy-to-read, painless-to-understand, bug-free information. Even with a fantastic team assembled, things inevitably slip through the cracks. If you find any mistakes in this book (especially bugs), I would greatly appreciate it if you would send the mistakes to me at: ... """
ok」ャthank you ! I understand, but I have heard many complain about the voice of the compiler crashes.
Yes. That was a major problem. In April this year there were about 110 known causes of compiler crashes and internal compiler errors. I've attacked that problem with considerable success. In the latest release of DMD1, that is down to 4 (and I've submitted a patch for one of those). There are 6 left for DMD2. Of course new ones can creep in when new features are added. If you stick to DMD1, you shouldn't encounter them any more. This is largely a solved problem.
it's great job」ャ When d2 can achieve the status of d1 ? thank you very much to all !
When new features stop getting added. But the backlog has been cleared, so any future ones should be fixed shortly after they are introduced.
Oct 19 2009
parent dolive <dolive89 sina.com> writes:
Don ミエオス:

 dolive wrote:
 Don ミエオス:
 
 dolive wrote:
 Denis Koroskin ミエオス:

 On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:55:44 +0400, dolive <dolive89 sina.com> wrote:

 Eldar Insafutdinov テ青エツオツス:

 dolive Wrote:

 bug fix is slower,should speed up the progress, fix more than 200 a  
month.
 Very much looking forward to, thanks all !

 dolive
What have you personally done to make it possible?
sorryツ」ツャI am a beginning studentツ」ツャI would like to try to do IDE,but I found that there are 1324 issues in http://d.puremagic.com/issues/. thank you re me ! dolive
You can't measure software quality by a number of bug reports. For example, GCC bugzilla contains more than 5000 bug reports. Does it mean anything to you? Number of bug reports may only indicate how large user base is, not how buggy it is. You must know that there is no software without bugs. An introduction to "Applied Microsoft .Net Framework Programming" by Jeffrey Richter contains the following section that I'd like to quote: """ THIS BOOK HAS NO MISTAKES This section's title clearly states what I want to say. But we all know that it is a flat-out lie. My editors and I have worked hard to bring you the most accurate, up-to-date, in-depth, easy-to-read, painless-to-understand, bug-free information. Even with a fantastic team assembled, things inevitably slip through the cracks. If you find any mistakes in this book (especially bugs), I would greatly appreciate it if you would send the mistakes to me at: ... """
ok」ャthank you ! I understand, but I have heard many complain about the voice of the compiler crashes.
Yes. That was a major problem. In April this year there were about 110 known causes of compiler crashes and internal compiler errors. I've attacked that problem with considerable success. In the latest release of DMD1, that is down to 4 (and I've submitted a patch for one of those). There are 6 left for DMD2. Of course new ones can creep in when new features are added. If you stick to DMD1, you shouldn't encounter them any more. This is largely a solved problem.
it's great job」ャ When d2 can achieve the status of d1 ? thank you very much to all !
When new features stop getting added. But the backlog has been cleared, so any future ones should be fixed shortly after they are introduced.
Oh, thank you very much to all ! dolive
Oct 19 2009
prev sibling parent reply "Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> writes:
"dolive" <dolive89 sina.com> wrote in message 
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 bug fix is slower,should speed up the progress, fix more than 200 a month.
 Very much looking forward to, thanks all !
Thank you. We had previously thought that fixing as few bugs as possible would be the best thing to do. Now we know we should fix many bugs instead of few bugs. Seriously, what's with this sudden influx of arrogant kids? Did we get slashdotted or something?
Oct 17 2009
parent Lutger <lutger.blijdestijn gmail.com> writes:
Nick Sabalausky wrote:

 "dolive" <dolive89 sina.com> wrote in message
 news:hbcrm9$fo3$1 digitalmars.com...
 bug fix is slower,should speed up the progress, fix more than 200 a
 month. Very much looking forward to, thanks all !
Thank you. We had previously thought that fixing as few bugs as possible would be the best thing to do. Now we know we should fix many bugs instead of few bugs.
I think it's easier to just mark bugzilla reports as closed.
Oct 17 2009