• Mike Parker (5/5) Oct 29 2018 One of the easiest ways to support the D Language Foundation is
• Samir (2/7) Oct 29 2018 Bookmarked!
• FooledDonor (16/21) Oct 29 2018 Perhaps a fundamental principle is not clear enough at the
• Martin Tschierschke (6/23) Oct 30 2018 I want to subscribe to this points.
• SealabJaster (9/31) Oct 31 2018 It's kind of discouraging to see that your post, as well as
• Joakim (14/51) Oct 31 2018 My guess, and this is purely a guess, is that they got
• jmh530 (5/10) Nov 01 2018 I pay attention to the Vision document, and I contribute a little
• bachmeier (12/20) Nov 01 2018 There is nothing stopping the community from doing things like
• jmh530 (2/7) Oct 29 2018 Cool. I mean to use this more often, but sometimes forget...
• Soulsbane (2/7) Oct 29 2018 Already done!
• Peter Alexander (3/8) Oct 29 2018 Does this only work in the US? The charity doesn't exist at
• Mike Parker (7/16) Oct 30 2018 Looks like it's a completely separate system based on national
• notna (5/10) Nov 21 2018 Hmmm... cannot register for the "D Language Foundation" at

Mike Parker <aldacron gmail.com> writes:

One of the easiest ways to support the D Language Foundation is 
using smile.amazon.com when you make a purchase. Until Nov 2, 
they're running a special where they're donating 5% (10 times the 
usual amount) you buy through AmazonSmile.

smile.amazon.com/ch/47-5352856

Samir <samir aol.com> writes:

On Monday, 29 October 2018 at 16:01:38 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
 One of the easiest ways to support the D Language Foundation is 
 using smile.amazon.com when you make a purchase. Until Nov 2, 
 they're running a special where they're donating 5% (10 times 
 the usual amount) you buy through AmazonSmile.

 smile.amazon.com/ch/47-5352856

Bookmarked!

FooledDonor <donor donor.com> writes:

On Monday, 29 October 2018 at 16:01:38 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
 One of the easiest ways to support the D Language Foundation is 
 using smile.amazon.com when you make a purchase. Until Nov 2, 
 they're running a special where they're donating 5% (10 times 
 the usual amount) you buy through AmazonSmile.

 smile.amazon.com/ch/47-5352856

Perhaps a fundamental principle is not clear enough at the 
foundation: transparency.

Where is the vision of the third and fourth quarter? Where are 
the deliveries of things in the pipeline? What is the progress of 
the various jobs started?

Which people is funding, with how much money and for what 
expected results?
Where is the newCTFE? Was the work on this point financed by the 
foundation?

I've never seen a report on the state of affairs, neither from 
the president, nor from Andrei, nor from Walter.

How do you hope to obtain trust and funding, if NO one even 
deigns to give the least development plan or feedback on past 
developments?

It seems that everyone has locked up in their ivory tower ...

Martin Tschierschke <mt smartdolphin.de> writes:

On Monday, 29 October 2018 at 16:40:20 UTC, FooledDonor wrote:
 On Monday, 29 October 2018 at 16:01:38 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
 [...]

 Perhaps a fundamental principle is not clear enough at the 
 foundation: transparency.

 Where is the vision of the third and fourth quarter? Where are 
 the deliveries of things in the pipeline? What is the progress 
 of the various jobs started?

 Which people is funding, with how much money and for what 
 expected results?
 Where is the newCTFE? Was the work on this point financed by 
 the foundation?

 I've never seen a report on the state of affairs, neither from 
 the president, nor from Andrei, nor from Walter.

 How do you hope to obtain trust and funding, if NO one even 
 deigns to give the least development plan or feedback on past 
 developments?

 It seems that everyone has locked up in their ivory tower ...

I want to subscribe to this points.

Before trying an other money collection system, please provide 
more transparency of the current financial situation of the 
foundation.

Regards mt.

SealabJaster <sealabjaster gmail.com> writes:

On Monday, 29 October 2018 at 16:40:20 UTC, FooledDonor wrote:
 On Monday, 29 October 2018 at 16:01:38 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
 One of the easiest ways to support the D Language Foundation 
 is using smile.amazon.com when you make a purchase. Until Nov 
 2, they're running a special where they're donating 5% (10 
 times the usual amount) you buy through AmazonSmile.

 smile.amazon.com/ch/47-5352856

 Perhaps a fundamental principle is not clear enough at the 
 foundation: transparency.

 Where is the vision of the third and fourth quarter? Where are 
 the deliveries of things in the pipeline? What is the progress 
 of the various jobs started?

 Which people is funding, with how much money and for what 
 expected results?
 Where is the newCTFE? Was the work on this point financed by 
 the foundation?

 I've never seen a report on the state of affairs, neither from 
 the president, nor from Andrei, nor from Walter.

 How do you hope to obtain trust and funding, if NO one even 
 deigns to give the least development plan or feedback on past 
 developments?

 It seems that everyone has locked up in their ivory tower ...

It's kind of discouraging to see that your post, as well as 
another thread asking something similar regarding the vision 
document[1] have gone unanswered...

Maybe the people who could answer these things just don't see 
them, or maybe they're purposefully being quiet. It would be nice 
to know what's going on at the very least ;(

[1] 
https://forum.dlang.org/thread/qmwovarkjgvxyibslajl forum.dlang.org

Joakim <dlang joakim.fea.st> writes:

On Thursday, 1 November 2018 at 03:18:44 UTC, SealabJaster wrote:
 On Monday, 29 October 2018 at 16:40:20 UTC, FooledDonor wrote:
 On Monday, 29 October 2018 at 16:01:38 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
 One of the easiest ways to support the D Language Foundation 
 is using smile.amazon.com when you make a purchase. Until Nov 
 2, they're running a special where they're donating 5% (10 
 times the usual amount) you buy through AmazonSmile.

 smile.amazon.com/ch/47-5352856

 Perhaps a fundamental principle is not clear enough at the 
 foundation: transparency.

 Where is the vision of the third and fourth quarter? Where are 
 the deliveries of things in the pipeline? What is the progress 
 of the various jobs started?

 Which people is funding, with how much money and for what 
 expected results?
 Where is the newCTFE? Was the work on this point financed by 
 the foundation?

 I've never seen a report on the state of affairs, neither from 
 the president, nor from Andrei, nor from Walter.

 How do you hope to obtain trust and funding, if NO one even 
 deigns to give the least development plan or feedback on past 
 developments?

 It seems that everyone has locked up in their ivory tower ...

 It's kind of discouraging to see that your post, as well as 
 another thread asking something similar regarding the vision 
 document[1] have gone unanswered...

 Maybe the people who could answer these things just don't see 
 them, or maybe they're purposefully being quiet. It would be 
 nice to know what's going on at the very least ;(

 [1] 
 https://forum.dlang.org/thread/qmwovarkjgvxyibslajl forum.dlang.org

My guess, and this is purely a guess, is that they got 
discouraged by how few people paid attention to the Vision 
document or donated to the foundation on Opencollective and 
haven't bothered with this stuff since.

I think that's a mistake, as you may need to do this stuff for 
awhile before it picks up. In any case, I don't care that it 
isn't happening, as I always said that it's better to have 
decentralized bounties, like we had on bountysource, rather than 
centralized funding through the D Foundation.

Maybe the upcoming targeted campaigns will be a good middle 
ground, in that you will be able to directly contribute to 
specific targets:

https://dlang.org/blog/2018/07/13/funding-code-d/

jmh530 <john.michael.hall gmail.com> writes:

On Thursday, 1 November 2018 at 05:26:06 UTC, Joakim wrote:
 [snip]

 My guess, and this is purely a guess, is that they got 
 discouraged by how few people paid attention to the Vision 
 document or donated to the foundation on Opencollective and 
 haven't bothered with this stuff since.

I pay attention to the Vision document, and I contribute a little 
money out of every paycheck to the D foundation that my company 
matches. IMO, not updating the vision document comes off as very 
unorganized.

bachmeier <no spam.net> writes:

On Thursday, 1 November 2018 at 03:18:44 UTC, SealabJaster wrote:
 It's kind of discouraging to see that your post, as well as 
 another thread asking something similar regarding the vision 
 document[1] have gone unanswered...

 Maybe the people who could answer these things just don't see 
 them, or maybe they're purposefully being quiet. It would be 
 nice to know what's going on at the very least ;(

 [1] 
 https://forum.dlang.org/thread/qmwovarkjgvxyibslajl forum.dlang.org

There is nothing stopping the community from doing things like 
raising money for improving the user experience and marketing the 
language. Walter and Andrei do not have to be involved in 
anything outside of the core language development. No vision 
document is needed.

Neither Walter or Andrei is a CEO. We should be realistic and act 
accordingly.

Don't get me wrong, it would be great if the DLF did these 
things, but it's not happening now and it's not happening ever. 
The question is who will provide the leadership to move things 
forward. To this point, nobody has stepped up.

jmh530 <john.michael.hall gmail.com> writes:

On Monday, 29 October 2018 at 16:01:38 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
 One of the easiest ways to support the D Language Foundation is 
 using smile.amazon.com when you make a purchase. Until Nov 2, 
 they're running a special where they're donating 5% (10 times 
 the usual amount) you buy through AmazonSmile.

 smile.amazon.com/ch/47-5352856

Cool. I mean to use this more often, but sometimes forget...

Soulsbane <paul acheronsoft.com> writes:

On Monday, 29 October 2018 at 16:01:38 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
 One of the easiest ways to support the D Language Foundation is 
 using smile.amazon.com when you make a purchase. Until Nov 2, 
 they're running a special where they're donating 5% (10 times 
 the usual amount) you buy through AmazonSmile.

 smile.amazon.com/ch/47-5352856

Already done!

Peter Alexander <peter.alexander.au gmail.com> writes:

On Monday, 29 October 2018 at 16:01:38 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
 One of the easiest ways to support the D Language Foundation is 
 using smile.amazon.com when you make a purchase. Until Nov 2, 
 they're running a special where they're donating 5% (10 times 
 the usual amount) you buy through AmazonSmile.

 smile.amazon.com/ch/47-5352856

Does this only work in the US? The charity doesn't exist at 
smile.amazon.co.uk.

Mike Parker <aldacron gmail.com> writes:

On Monday, 29 October 2018 at 21:12:20 UTC, Peter Alexander wrote:
 On Monday, 29 October 2018 at 16:01:38 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
 One of the easiest ways to support the D Language Foundation 
 is using smile.amazon.com when you make a purchase. Until Nov 
 2, they're running a special where they're donating 5% (10 
 times the usual amount) you buy through AmazonSmile.

 smile.amazon.com/ch/47-5352856

 Does this only work in the US? The charity doesn't exist at 
 smile.amazon.co.uk.

Looks like it's a completely separate system based on national 
boundaries:

"Organisations must be registered and in good standing with the 
Charity Commission of either England and Wales, Scotland, or 
Northern Ireland to be eligible to participate."

amazon.com has a similar requirement for US-based charities.

notna <notna.remove.this ist-einmalig.de> writes:

On Monday, 29 October 2018 at 16:01:38 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
 One of the easiest ways to support the D Language Foundation is 
 using smile.amazon.com when you make a purchase. Until Nov 2, 
 they're running a special where they're donating 5% (10 times 
 the usual amount) you buy through AmazonSmile.

 smile.amazon.com/ch/47-5352856

Hmmm... cannot register for the "D Language Foundation" at 
smile.amazon.<<< DE >>>
... and on __COM__ I'm note getting some things even it shows 
"qualified for smile.amazon.DE"...