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reply Suliman <evermind live.ru> writes:
After 2 years dlang.ru was update. Content did not change. Main 
improves was is technology stack and design (still not perfect, 
but better than was).

http://dlang.ru

P.S. site is blocked by most of russian internet-providers by RKN
May 16 2019
next sibling parent reply Vladimir Panteleev <thecybershadow.lists gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 16 May 2019 at 12:25:52 UTC, Suliman wrote:

 After 2 years dlang.ru was update. Content did not change. Main 
 improves was is technology stack and design (still not perfect, 
 but better than was).

 http://dlang.ru

 P.S. site is blocked by most of russian internet-providers by 
 RKN


I get a blank page. In console: "globalThis is not defined"
May 16 2019
parent reply Suliman <evermind live.ru> writes:
On Thursday, 16 May 2019 at 17:02:07 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev 
wrote:

 On Thursday, 16 May 2019 at 12:25:52 UTC, Suliman wrote:

 After 2 years dlang.ru was update. Content did not change. 
 Main improves was is technology stack and design (still not 
 perfect, but better than was).

 http://dlang.ru

 P.S. site is blocked by most of russian internet-providers by 
 RKN


 I get a blank page. In console: "globalThis is not defined"


Very strange... it’s working for me now even from mobile.

Which browser?
May 16 2019
parent reply Vladimir Panteleev <thecybershadow.lists gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 16 May 2019 at 17:58:52 UTC, Suliman wrote:

 Very strange... it’s working for me now even from mobile.

 Which browser?


Waterfox 56.2.9

It does work in Chromium.
May 16 2019
parent reply Suliman <evermind live.ru> writes:
 Waterfox 56.2.9


Oh! I used on my site new js future. It will work after updating 
browser.
May 16 2019
parent reply Vladimir Panteleev <thecybershadow.lists gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 17 May 2019 at 06:25:23 UTC, Suliman wrote:

 Waterfox 56.2.9


 Oh! I used on my site new js future. It will work after 
 updating browser.


Waterfox 56.2.9 is currently the latest version of Waterfox. 
There is no newer version to update to.

Waterfox uses an older version of Gecko (because it is a Firefox 
fork), but it's not THAT old. Did you check browser support at 
caniuse.com ? And, what feature is so necessary to display a HTML 
web page?
May 17 2019
parent Eugene Wissner <belka caraus.de> writes:
On Saturday, 18 May 2019 at 01:24:35 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev 
wrote:

 On Friday, 17 May 2019 at 06:25:23 UTC, Suliman wrote:

 Waterfox 56.2.9


 Oh! I used on my site new js future. It will work after 
 updating browser.


 Waterfox 56.2.9 is currently the latest version of Waterfox. 
 There is no newer version to update to.

 Waterfox uses an older version of Gecko (because it is a 
 Firefox fork), but it's not THAT old. Did you check browser 
 support at caniuse.com ? And, what feature is so necessary to 
 display a HTML web page?


I get "Uncaught ReferenceError: globalThis is not defined" in an 
older Chrome. globalThis isn't standard yet and it has really bad 
browser support:

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/globalThis
May 17 2019
prev sibling next sibling parent reply DanielG <simpletangent gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 16 May 2019 at 12:25:52 UTC, Suliman wrote:

 P.S. site is blocked by most of russian internet-providers by 
 RKN


Why is that?
May 16 2019
next sibling parent reply Suliman <evermind live.ru> writes:
On Friday, 17 May 2019 at 06:46:06 UTC, DanielG wrote:

 On Thursday, 16 May 2019 at 12:25:52 UTC, Suliman wrote:

 P.S. site is blocked by most of russian internet-providers by 
 RKN


 Why is that?


This organization is created by Putin's friends. It's purpose to 
block all opposition, but they do not care about what they are 
blocking. So we have big pain with free access to internet and 
messaging.

Putin become Gitler 2.0
May 17 2019
parent reply drug <drug2004 bk.ru> writes:
On 17.05.2019 10:16, Suliman wrote:

 On Friday, 17 May 2019 at 06:46:06 UTC, DanielG wrote:

 On Thursday, 16 May 2019 at 12:25:52 UTC, Suliman wrote:

 P.S. site is blocked by most of russian internet-providers by RKN


 Why is that?


 
 This organization is created by Putin's friends. It's purpose to block 
 all opposition, but they do not care about what they are blocking. So we 
 have big pain with free access to internet and messaging.
 
 Putin become Gitler 2.0


This is programmer forum, not politic one. Why do others should read 
your bullshit? It's really funny to read that Putin with his friends 
block your server. Try to solve your problems by yourself, don't try to 
guilt others.

I understand that there is a habit to guilt Russians and/or Putin in 
many problems but let's try to be clever?
May 17 2019
next sibling parent reply Suliman <evermind live.ru> writes:
 Try to solve your problems by yourself


How?
May 17 2019
parent drug <drug2004 bk.ru> writes:
On 17.05.2019 12:54, Suliman wrote:

 Try to solve your problems by yourself


 How?


My regrets that I don't provide step-by-step instruction but you can do 
something like others thousands of sites in "ru" domain do. You probably 
don't believe me but every day I visit tens of Russian sites without any 
problem. And I'm pretty sure that these sites are not Putin friends. 
More over I'm pretty sure that Putin knows nothing about these sites at all.

Of course RKN actions are destructive and annoying sometimes, no doubts. 
But the world is too complex to guilt Putin into doing it. It's really 
funny. No doubts.
May 17 2019
prev sibling parent reply ikod <geller.garry gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 17 May 2019 at 08:14:26 UTC, drug wrote:

 I understand that there is a habit to guilt Russians and/or 
 Putin in many problems but let's try to be clever?


At least he leaded Crimea annexion, war against Georgia, current 
proxy war on the east of Ukraine. He pretend to defend russians 
outside of the Russia, but suppress them in their own country.

PS. I will not follow this discussion and will not arguing as 
this is not a good place for it.
May 17 2019
parent reply drug <drug2004 bk.ru> writes:
On 17.05.2019 15:13, ikod wrote:

 
 At least he leaded Crimea annexion, war against Georgia, current proxy 
 war on the east of Ukraine. He pretend to defend russians outside of the 
 Russia, but suppress them in their own country.


Well, I let myself to talk a little bit about your statement.
First of all, you are totally wrong.
Crimea people decided to join Russia because they saw what nationalists 
did in Kiev. Crimea people just was scared by nationalist actions. Major 
population in Crimea is Russians. Crimea was Russian long before 
Khrushchev transfer Crimea to Ukrainian SSR - see 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_War. Here you can easily read that 
Crimean War was a military conflict between Ottoman Empire, France and 
Britain from one side and Russia on other. Crimean war happened in 
1853-1856, Khrushchev transfer happened in 1954. At least 100 years 
Crimea was Russian before Khrushchev transfer Crimea to Ukrainian SSR. 
Crimea was Ukrainian only 23 years (after dissolution of USSR). Again, 
people decided to join Russia, there was no annexation. More over about 
20 000 members of Armed Forces of Ukraine was based in Crimea and only 6 
000 returned to Ukraine. Others (14 000) became members of Russian Armed 
Forces. Do you think it was possible if Russia was a real aggressor like 
West media said? It was possible just because Ukrainians and Russians 
are very close nations in fact. And this hysteria is artificial. This is 
just the illustration of the principle `divide and rule`.
There is nothing good in this conflict of course. I'm sure that it would 
be better if this conflict not happened at all.

Also about war against Georgia... Do you know that this war was started 
by Georgia? There is a big game between major world players. USA 
promised support to Georgia if Saakashvili (president of Georgia) 
started a war to provocate Russia but didn't fulfill promises 
afterwards. Don't you remember Saakashvili tie chewing when he realized 
that no USA support he had? Also it worths noting that Russian Armed 
Forces was very weak in this conflict. For example they even lost 
strategic bomber Tu-22M3 that is really shame. Russia won this conflict 
just by amount of troops. This operation was unexpected for Russia. It 
was not planned one. Russia was unable to plan and perform military 
operation this level in that period because Russian army was really 
weak. Namely this shame was the reason Russia started reforms in Russian 
Armed Forces.

About proxy war on the east of Ukraine - could't you explain me why 
Ukrainian Armed Forces shell Donetsk and Lugansk? They already have 
killed many civils including children. Why they keep it on? Also Crimea 
people believe that if they didn't join to Russia then a war like on 
east of Ukraine happen in Crimea.

And the last but no least - nobody suppresses me or my friends in 
Russia. Have you ever been in Russia? Yes, RKN blocks some sites. I 
don't see anything wrong in blocking illegal site like site about 
narcotic drugs, arms trafficking and so on. But what is bad that RKN can 
not block specific site and then RKN block subnets and this causing 
problems disturbing law-abiding people. So the problem exists but do not 
call it `suppressing people`.


 
 PS. I will not follow this discussion and will not arguing as this is 
 not a good place for it.


I'm agree totally. We are programmers. D rocks!)
May 17 2019
parent reply dayllenger <dayllenger protonmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 17 May 2019 at 13:39:35 UTC, drug wrote:

 First of all, you are totally wrong.
 Crimea ...


It's not a fact, it's just your opinion, very similar to one that 
russian federal TV transmits.


 And the last but no least - nobody suppresses me or my friends 
 in Russia. Have you ever been in Russia?


What will you say when all the foreign Internet gets blocked? 
When the borders get closed? When Putin meddles into one more 
needless conflict?


 I don't see anything wrong in blocking illegal site like site 
 about narcotic drugs, arms trafficking and so on.


Don't you see something wrong in blocking LinkedIn, Telegram? In 
trying to block Wikipedia, YouTube? And you feel it's okay that 
some increadibly corrupted people have a power to decide, what 
you should see, and what not?


 But the world is too complex to guilt Putin into doing it. It's 
 really funny. No doubts.


It's also funny how you are trying to justify that very nice 
government.
May 17 2019
parent Mike Parker <aldacron gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 17 May 2019 at 15:41:30 UTC, dayllenger wrote:

 On Friday, 17 May 2019 at 13:39:35 UTC, drug wrote:

 First of all, you are totally wrong.
 Crimea ...


 It's not a fact, it's just your opinion, very similar to one 
 that russian federal TV transmits.


 And the last but no least - nobody suppresses me or my friends 
 in Russia. Have you ever been in Russia?


 What will you say when all the foreign Internet gets blocked? 
 When the borders get closed? When Putin meddles into one more 
 needless conflict?


 I don't see anything wrong in blocking illegal site like site 
 about narcotic drugs, arms trafficking and so on.


 Don't you see something wrong in blocking LinkedIn, Telegram? 
 In trying to block Wikipedia, YouTube? And you feel it's okay 
 that some increadibly corrupted people have a power to decide, 
 what you should see, and what not?


 But the world is too complex to guilt Putin into doing it. 
 It's really funny. No doubts.


 It's also funny how you are trying to justify that very nice 
 government.


To everyone involved in this discussion: please just let it end 
here. If you feel the pressing need to continue, please take it 
elsewhere. I participate in quite a number of political debates 
on my Facebook page, but this forum is simply not the place for 
it. We'd like to keep our blood pressure raising limited to 
arguments about D. Any further such posts will be deleted. Thanks!
May 17 2019
prev sibling parent Eugene Wissner <belka caraus.de> writes:
On Friday, 17 May 2019 at 06:46:06 UTC, DanielG wrote:

 On Thursday, 16 May 2019 at 12:25:52 UTC, Suliman wrote:

 P.S. site is blocked by most of russian internet-providers by 
 RKN


 Why is that?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Service_for_Supervision_of_Communications,_Information_Technology_and_Mass_Media
May 17 2019
prev sibling parent reply 9il <ilyayaroshenko gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 16 May 2019 at 12:25:52 UTC, Suliman wrote:

 After 2 years dlang.ru was update. Content did not change. Main 
 improves was is technology stack and design (still not perfect, 
 but better than was).

 http://dlang.ru

 P.S. site is blocked by most of russian internet-providers by 
 RKN


Bullshit! I have checked the dlang.ru at RKN [1] registry and 
there are no dlang.ru in it. I checked with two providers from 
Russia and access works. Don't bug the forum with provocations or 
simply wait for DNS update.

[1] - https://eais.rkn.gov.ru/
May 17 2019
parent reply Suliman <evermind live.ru> writes:
On Saturday, 18 May 2019 at 03:01:33 UTC, 9il wrote:

 On Thursday, 16 May 2019 at 12:25:52 UTC, Suliman wrote:

 After 2 years dlang.ru was update. Content did not change. 
 Main improves was is technology stack and design (still not 
 perfect, but better than was).

 http://dlang.ru

 P.S. site is blocked by most of russian internet-providers by 
 RKN


 Bullshit! I have checked the dlang.ru at RKN [1] registry and 
 there are no dlang.ru in it. I checked with two providers from 
 Russia and access works. Don't bug the forum with provocations 
 or simply wait for DNS update.

 [1] - https://eais.rkn.gov.ru/



It was banned by IP. I checked it two weeks ago. It work very 
strange even from single mobile providers.
https://imgur.com/a/NN3Apfo
May 17 2019
next sibling parent reply 9il <ilyayaroshenko gmail.com> writes:
On Saturday, 18 May 2019 at 06:26:10 UTC, Suliman wrote:

 On Saturday, 18 May 2019 at 03:01:33 UTC, 9il wrote:

 On Thursday, 16 May 2019 at 12:25:52 UTC, Suliman wrote:

 After 2 years dlang.ru was update. Content did not change. 
 Main improves was is technology stack and design (still not 
 perfect, but better than was).

 http://dlang.ru

 P.S. site is blocked by most of russian internet-providers by 
 RKN


 Bullshit! I have checked the dlang.ru at RKN [1] registry and 
 there are no dlang.ru in it. I checked with two providers from 
 Russia and access works. Don't bug the forum with provocations 
 or simply wait for DNS update.

 [1] - https://eais.rkn.gov.ru/



 It was banned by IP. I checked it two weeks ago. It work very 
 strange even from single mobile providers.
 https://imgur.com/a/NN3Apfo


Well, yes this IP 37.252.127.244 is blocked for me and the 
checker [1] shows it belongs to dlang.ru (however the site itself 
works well). This was done by the court's decision [2] at 
13.04.2018, more than a year ago. The information can be checked 
at [3]. You picked an already blocked IP.

[1] https://ipinfo.info/html/ip_checker.php
[2] 
https://www.mos-gorsud.ru/rs/taganskij/services/cases/civil/details/2cc72aea-39e7-4f8e-adc9-37d170966efa
[3] http://blocklist.rkn.gov.ru/
May 18 2019
parent 9il <ilyayaroshenko gmail.com> writes:
On Saturday, 18 May 2019 at 09:19:24 UTC, 9il wrote:

 On Saturday, 18 May 2019 at 06:26:10 UTC, Suliman wrote:

 On Saturday, 18 May 2019 at 03:01:33 UTC, 9il wrote:

 On Thursday, 16 May 2019 at 12:25:52 UTC, Suliman wrote:

 [...]


 Bullshit! I have checked the dlang.ru at RKN [1] registry and 
 there are no dlang.ru in it. I checked with two providers 
 from Russia and access works. Don't bug the forum with 
 provocations or simply wait for DNS update.

 [1] - https://eais.rkn.gov.ru/



 It was banned by IP. I checked it two weeks ago. It work very 
 strange even from single mobile providers.
 https://imgur.com/a/NN3Apfo


 Well, yes this IP 37.252.127.244 is blocked for me and the 
 checker [1] shows it belongs to dlang.ru (however the site 
 itself works well). This was done by the court's decision [2] 
 at 13.04.2018, more than a year ago. The information can be 
 checked at [3]. You picked an already blocked IP.

 [1] https://ipinfo.info/html/ip_checker.php
 [2] 
 https://www.mos-gorsud.ru/rs/taganskij/services/cases/civil/details/2cc72aea-39e7-4f8e-adc9-37d170966efa
 [3] http://blocklist.rkn.gov.ru/


Or, if you picked it a long time ago, then probably they blocked 
a Europe's subnet with this IP (because of telegram, games or 
drugs). However, nothing in this information says that they 
wanted to block dlang.ru. Placing the site at a new IP will solve 
the problem.
May 18 2019
prev sibling parent reply Jack Applegame <japplegame gmail.com> writes:
On Saturday, 18 May 2019 at 06:26:10 UTC, Suliman wrote:

 On Saturday, 18 May 2019 at 03:01:33 UTC, 9il wrote:

 On Thursday, 16 May 2019 at 12:25:52 UTC, Suliman wrote:

 After 2 years dlang.ru was update. Content did not change. 
 Main improves was is technology stack and design (still not 
 perfect, but better than was).

 http://dlang.ru

 P.S. site is blocked by most of russian internet-providers by 
 RKN


 Bullshit! I have checked the dlang.ru at RKN [1] registry and 
 there are no dlang.ru in it. I checked with two providers from 
 Russia and access works. Don't bug the forum with provocations 
 or simply wait for DNS update.

 [1] - https://eais.rkn.gov.ru/



 It was banned by IP. I checked it two weeks ago. It work very 
 strange even from single mobile providers.
 https://imgur.com/a/NN3Apfo


I do not think it is a fight against the opposition. For example, 
most of IP addresses of cloud service CloudFlare were blocked 
because of online casinos, which are banned in the Russian 
Federation. In fact, RKN does not block opposition websites.
I recommend to host .ru sites at russian hosting companies. 
Because they take care that their IP addresses are not included 
in the RKN lists. Unlike, Tilaa. ;)
May 18 2019
parent Jack Applegame <japplegame gmail.com> writes:
Unfortunately, now (and the last few years) dlang.ru is pretty 
useless.
May 18 2019