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digitalmars.D.announce - Walter and I talk about D in Romania

reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
Walter and I will travel to Brasov, Romania to hold an evening-long 
event on the D language. There's been strong interest in the event with 
over 300 registrants so far.

http://curiousminds.ro

Scott Meyers will guest star in a panel following the talks. We're all 
looking forward to it!


Andrei
Oct 02 2015
next sibling parent Rikki Cattermole <alphaglosined gmail.com> writes:
On 03/10/15 12:25 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 Walter and I will travel to Brasov, Romania to hold an evening-long
 event on the D language. There's been strong interest in the event with
 over 300 registrants so far.

 http://curiousminds.ro

 Scott Meyers will guest star in a panel following the talks. We're all
 looking forward to it!


 Andrei


Awesome! Keep us updated on how it goes. Via e.g. twitter.
Oct 02 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Per =?UTF-8?B?Tm9yZGzDtnc=?= <per.nordlow gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 2 October 2015 at 11:25:44 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

 Walter and I will travel to Brasov, Romania to hold an 
 evening-long event on the D language. There's been strong 
 interest in the event with over 300 registrants so far.


Great!

Will there be video recordings?
Oct 02 2015
parent reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 10/02/2015 08:01 AM, Per Nordlöw wrote:

 On Friday, 2 October 2015 at 11:25:44 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 Walter and I will travel to Brasov, Romania to hold an evening-long
 event on the D language. There's been strong interest in the event
 with over 300 registrants so far.


 Great!

 Will there be video recordings?


I don't think so. -- Andrei
Oct 02 2015
parent Wyatt <wyatt.epp gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 2 October 2015 at 13:30:46 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

 On 10/02/2015 08:01 AM, Per Nordlöw wrote:

 Will there be video recordings?


 I don't think so. -- Andrei


Can you at least get an audio recording?
Oct 05 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Dicebot <public dicebot.lv> writes:
If only this was mentioned at least few weeks earlier I'd try to 
attend :(
Oct 02 2015
next sibling parent Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 10/02/2015 08:03 AM, Dicebot wrote:

 If only this was mentioned at least few weeks earlier I'd try to attend :(


My mistake, sorry. -- Andrei
Oct 02 2015
prev sibling parent reply Dragos Carp <dragoscarp gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 2 October 2015 at 12:03:59 UTC, Dicebot wrote:

 If only this was mentioned at least few weeks earlier I'd try 
 to attend :(


Then don't miss this: http://codedive.pl/en/agenda/
Oct 02 2015
parent Adrian Matoga <epi atari8.info> writes:
On Friday, 2 October 2015 at 13:35:42 UTC, Dragos Carp wrote:

 Then don't miss this: http://codedive.pl/en/agenda/


I'll be there!
Oct 05 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d-announce writes:
On Friday, October 02, 2015 07:25:44 Andrei Alexandrescu via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:

 Walter and I will travel to Brasov, Romania to hold an evening-long
 event on the D language. There's been strong interest in the event with
 over 300 registrants so far.

 http://curiousminds.ro

 Scott Meyers will guest star in a panel following the talks. We're all
 looking forward to it!


Wow. That's a lot of people.

- Jonathan M Davis
Oct 02 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent Radu <radu void.null> writes:
On Friday, 2 October 2015 at 11:25:44 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

 Walter and I will travel to Brasov, Romania to hold an 
 evening-long event on the D language. There's been strong 
 interest in the event with over 300 registrants so far.

 http://curiousminds.ro

 Scott Meyers will guest star in a panel following the talks. 
 We're all looking forward to it!


 Andrei


Awesome! To bad I will not be in Romania at the time, I bet will 
be a great event.

Mult succes!
Oct 02 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Bogdan <szabobogdan yahoo.com> writes:
On Friday, 2 October 2015 at 11:25:44 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

 Walter and I will travel to Brasov, Romania to hold an 
 evening-long event on the D language. There's been strong 
 interest in the event with over 300 registrants so far.

 http://curiousminds.ro

 Scott Meyers will guest star in a panel following the talks. 
 We're all looking forward to it!


 Andrei


Great news!

How much are you planning to stay in Romania? Do you have plans 
to visit Cluj?

Thnks,
Bogdan
Oct 02 2015
parent Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 10/2/2015 2:10 PM, Bogdan wrote:

 How much are you planning to stay in Romania? Do you have plans to visit Cluj?


We're planning to tour around a bit afterwards. I didn't want to miss that 
opportunity!

It also means we'll only have limited email contact.
Oct 02 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent Mengu <mengukagan gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 2 October 2015 at 11:25:44 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

 Walter and I will travel to Brasov, Romania to hold an 
 evening-long event on the D language. There's been strong 
 interest in the event with over 300 registrants so far.

 http://curiousminds.ro

 Scott Meyers will guest star in a panel following the talks. 
 We're all looking forward to it!


 Andrei


god damn. that looks like a great D event and i thought i could 
get a quick visa and fly from istanbul to brasov. how wrong was 
i..
Oct 03 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Marco Leise <Marco.Leise gmx.de> writes:
Am Fri, 2 Oct 2015 07:25:44 -0400
schrieb Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org>:


 Walter and I will travel to Brasov, Romania to hold an evening-long 
 event on the D language. There's been strong interest in the event with 
 over 300 registrants so far.
 
 http://curiousminds.ro
 
 Scott Meyers will guest star in a panel following the talks. We're all 
 looking forward to it!
 
 
 Andrei


That's a lot of people. You must be some kind of programming
national hero in Romania. Good luck and watch out for those
C++ moroi in the audience!

-- 
Marco
Oct 03 2015
parent reply deadalnix <deadalnix gmail.com> writes:
On Saturday, 3 October 2015 at 12:29:17 UTC, Marco Leise wrote:

 That's a lot of people. You must be some kind of programming 
 national hero in Romania. Good luck and watch out for those C++ 
 moroi in the audience!


Time to get a Dman costume and some lycra costume !
Oct 03 2015
next sibling parent Olivier Pisano <olivier.pisano laposte.net> writes:
On Saturday, 3 October 2015 at 23:05:41 UTC, deadalnix wrote:

 On Saturday, 3 October 2015 at 12:29:17 UTC, Marco Leise wrote:

 That's a lot of people. You must be some kind of programming 
 national hero in Romania. Good luck and watch out for those 
 C++ moroi in the audience!


 Time to get a Dman costume and some lycra costume !


And climb some walls !

http://www.factornews.com/images/670x320/12/120318.png
Oct 04 2015
prev sibling parent karabuta <karabutaworld gmail.com> writes:
On Saturday, 3 October 2015 at 23:05:41 UTC, deadalnix wrote:

 On Saturday, 3 October 2015 at 12:29:17 UTC, Marco Leise wrote:

 That's a lot of people. You must be some kind of programming 
 national hero in Romania. Good luck and watch out for those 
 C++ moroi in the audience!


 Time to get a Dman costume and some lycra costume !


I thought D-eveloper was the goto word.
Oct 04 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent Lionello Lunesu <lionello lunesu.remove.com> writes:
On 02/10/15 19:25, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 Walter and I will travel to Brasov, Romania to hold an evening-long
 event on the D language. There's been strong interest in the event with
 over 300 registrants so far.

 http://curiousminds.ro

 Scott Meyers will guest star in a panel following the talks. We're all
 looking forward to it!


 Andrei


Misto
Oct 03 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent reply mattcoder <stop spam.com> writes:
On Friday, 2 October 2015 at 11:25:44 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

We need to start recording those events. 300 people could turn 
into 10 or 100 times more counting those who would like to watch 
the videos later.

This is not the first time we heard about a conference about D 
without recording or it was improvised by good soul with a cam at 
last moment.

Matheus.
Oct 04 2015
parent karabuta <karabutaworld gmail.com> writes:
On Sunday, 4 October 2015 at 13:04:19 UTC, mattcoder wrote:

 On Friday, 2 October 2015 at 11:25:44 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
 wrote:

 We need to start recording those events. 300 people could turn 
 into 10 or 100 times more counting those who would like to 
 watch the videos later.

 This is not the first time we heard about a conference about D 
 without recording or it was improvised by good soul with a cam 
 at last moment.

 Matheus.


I couldn't agree more.
Oct 04 2015
prev sibling parent reply Vladimir Panteleev <thecybershadow.lists gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 2 October 2015 at 11:25:44 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

 Walter and I will travel to Brasov, Romania to hold an 
 evening-long event on the D language. There's been strong 
 interest in the event with over 300 registrants so far.

 http://curiousminds.ro

 Scott Meyers will guest star in a panel following the talks. 
 We're all looking forward to it!


Not going to miss this opportunity!

But... all this sure is confusing (at least for a 
non-regular-conference-goer).

Registration is free, OK, so what's the catch? Maybe attendance 
isn't? Or are we expected to stay at Hotel Kronwell? :)

I filled in the "join for free" form, but all I got is 
confirmation that I subscribed to a mailing list... no 
confirmation of registration or anything...

And with over 300 registrants 3 days ago, there is no feedback on 
whether the conference is booked out or anything!
Oct 05 2015
next sibling parent reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 10/5/15 4:10 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:

 On Friday, 2 October 2015 at 11:25:44 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 Walter and I will travel to Brasov, Romania to hold an evening-long
 event on the D language. There's been strong interest in the event
 with over 300 registrants so far.

 http://curiousminds.ro

 Scott Meyers will guest star in a panel following the talks. We're all
 looking forward to it!


 Not going to miss this opportunity!

 But... all this sure is confusing (at least for a
 non-regular-conference-goer).

 Registration is free, OK, so what's the catch? Maybe attendance isn't?
 Or are we expected to stay at Hotel Kronwell? :)

 I filled in the "join for free" form, but all I got is confirmation that
 I subscribed to a mailing list... no confirmation of registration or
 anything...

 And with over 300 registrants 3 days ago, there is no feedback on
 whether the conference is booked out or anything!


The event is sponsored by Siemens and free for the audience. I'll relay 
your confusion to the organizers. -- Andrei
Oct 05 2015
parent reply Rory McGuire via Digitalmars-d-announce writes:
On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 2:43 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu via
Digitalmars-d-announce <digitalmars-d-announce puremagic.com> wrote:


 ...


The event is sponsored by Siemens and free for the audience. I'll relay

 your confusion to the organizers. -- Andrei


That is interesting, do you know how Siemens ended up being the sponsor?
Oct 05 2015
parent Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 10/6/15 8:42 AM, Rory McGuire via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 2:43 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu via
 Digitalmars-d-announce <digitalmars-d-announce puremagic.com
 <mailto:digitalmars-d-announce puremagic.com>> wrote:

     ...

     The event is sponsored by Siemens and free for the audience. I'll
     relay your confusion to the organizers. -- Andrei


 That is interesting, do you know how Siemens ended up being the sponsor?


Far as I can tell it's the other way around: we ended up being invited 
:o). Siemens is sponsoring the ongoing curiousminds.ro conferences, and 
they contacted us with the idea of holding the event. -- Andrei
Oct 06 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent Vladimir Panteleev <thecybershadow.lists gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 5 October 2015 at 14:10:43 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev 
wrote:

 On Friday, 2 October 2015 at 11:25:44 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
 wrote:

 Walter and I will travel to Brasov, Romania to hold an 
 evening-long event on the D language. There's been strong 
 interest in the event with over 300 registrants so far.

 http://curiousminds.ro

 Scott Meyers will guest star in a panel following the talks. 
 We're all looking forward to it!


 Not going to miss this opportunity!


I'm here! Who else is?
Oct 09 2015
prev sibling parent reply Vladimir Panteleev <thecybershadow.lists gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 5 October 2015 at 14:10:43 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev 
wrote:

 Not going to miss this opportunity!


Since I was apparently the only forum regular in the audience, 
figured I should post a follow-up.

First, the event was recorded. There was a professional A/V 
studio working with multiple cameras, additional lighting, the 
works (though they did have some audio problems in the 
beginning). Andrei confirmed that the recordings will be 
published.

The audience was packed - 400 people in total. Quite amazing. I 
did not recognize anyone, which on the other hand is great 
because the event reached 399 people new to D :) Also the % of 
women was much higher than the past DConfs I've attended. There 
were a few people in the audience familiar with 
recent/untraditional programming languages (Rust, Nim, Haskell) 
so there was some nice dialogue at times (Andrei had to impose a 
budget on the first 5 rows to get the rest of the audience to 
participate).

The event was organized very well considering the audience size 
and free attendance. There were free t-shirts, beverages, snacks, 
and even beer at the end - very nice of Siemens.

The talks:

The schedule was rearranged a bit, so it doesn't quite correspond 
to the one on the website (or I might be just misremembering). 
IIRC, the order was: welcome address, "Three cool things about D" 
by Andrei, "Interfacing D to legacy C++ code" by Walter, "Writing 
quick code, quickly" by Andrei, followed by the panel.

Andrei's first talk was mainly concerning with "pure", its 
variants (strong/weak), rules and benefits, as well as a quick 
description of CTFE and the famous ctRegex benchmark where D 
beats everything else. I'm not sure if some slides were skipped 
over due to time constraints.

Walter's talk was about how D was extended to gradually support 
more ways to interface with C++ (class/vtable layouts, 
namespaces, extern(C++), name mangling etc.) and how it helped 
DDMD.

Andrei's second talk, "Writing quick code, quickly" was not 
related to D, but I enjoyed it immensely. It covers some 
interesting optimization problems with some surprising solutions. 
I highly recommend watching this.

Finally, there was the panel with Scott Meyers. This included a 
book giveaway for the most embarrassing questions, of which there 
were many. A big part of the audience had left at this point 
though, as it was getting late. Many questions concerned D's 
ecosystem, e.g. whether we have good debugging GUIs for all 
platforms, which we don't for OS X. The books were TDPL (the rare 
edition with no author on the cover), Ali's D book, and a C++ 
book by either Andrei or Scott (unfortunately I do not remember), 
all signed by their authors.

This was all for the conference. We took the rest of the weekend 
to tour Brașov and do some sightseeing. The most striking thing 
about the city is the number of roundabouts - probably 90% of 
intersections were replaced by them! If you're around, do make 
sure to make the climb to the mountain looming above the old city 
(or just take the cable car), the view is awesome.
Oct 14 2015
next sibling parent reply =?UTF-8?Q?Ali_=c3=87ehreli?= <acehreli yahoo.com> writes:
Thank you very much for the summary! It was very informative.

On 10/14/2015 03:54 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:


 Andrei's second talk, "Writing quick code, quickly" was not related to
 D, but I enjoyed it immensely. It covers some interesting optimization
 problems with some surprising solutions. I highly recommend watching 


this.

Was it a version of the following talk by any chance?

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq_WaiwzOtI


 Ali's D book [...] signed by their authors


Yay! :D I am glad that Andrei or Walter was able to save one copy for 
that event.

Ali
Oct 14 2015
parent reply Vladimir Panteleev <thecybershadow.lists gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 14 October 2015 at 23:06:14 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:

 Thank you very much for the summary! It was very informative.

 On 10/14/2015 03:54 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:


 Andrei's second talk, "Writing quick code, quickly" was not


 related to

 D, but I enjoyed it immensely. It covers some interesting


 optimization

 problems with some surprising solutions. I highly recommend


 watching this.

 Was it a version of the following talk by any chance?

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq_WaiwzOtI


Skimming through that, it looks like a completely different talk 
(also very interesting)! Will watch that too.
Oct 14 2015
parent reply =?UTF-8?Q?Ali_=c3=87ehreli?= <acehreli yahoo.com> writes:
On 10/14/2015 04:15 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:

 On Wednesday, 14 October 2015 at 23:06:14 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:

 Thank you very much for the summary! It was very informative.

 On 10/14/2015 03:54 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:


 Andrei's second talk, "Writing quick code, quickly" was not


 related to

 D, but I enjoyed it immensely. It covers some interesting


 optimization

 problems with some surprising solutions. I highly recommend


 watching this.

 Was it a version of the following talk by any chance?

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq_WaiwzOtI


 Skimming through that, it looks like a completely different talk (also
 very interesting)! Will watch that too.


Thanks. I should have searched properly before asking. "Writing Quick 
Code in C++, Quickly" is more promising:

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea5DiCg8HOY

Ali
Oct 14 2015
parent Vladimir Panteleev <thecybershadow.lists gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 14 October 2015 at 23:21:04 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:

 On 10/14/2015 04:15 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:

 Skimming through that, it looks like a completely different 
 talk (also
 very interesting)! Will watch that too.


 Thanks. I should have searched properly before asking. "Writing 
 Quick Code in C++, Quickly" is more promising:

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea5DiCg8HOY


Not that one either. Last week's optimization tasks were for some 
simple common things, such as counting the log10 of an integer 
(how many decimal digits it has), or converting an integer to a 
decimal ASCII string (the context being optimizing the HHVM 
runtime at Facebook I think).
Oct 14 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent deadalnix <deadalnix gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 14 October 2015 at 22:54:40 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev 
wrote:

 First, the event was recorded. There was a professional A/V 
 studio working with multiple cameras, additional lighting, the 
 works (though they did have some audio problems in the 
 beginning). Andrei confirmed that the recordings will be 
 published.


Super good news.


 The audience was packed - 400 people in total. Quite amazing. I 
 did not recognize anyone, which on the other hand is great 
 because the event reached 399 people new to D :) Also the % of 
 women was much higher than the past DConfs I've attended. There 
 were a few people in the audience familiar with 
 recent/untraditional programming languages (Rust, Nim, Haskell) 
 so there was some nice dialogue at times (Andrei had to impose 
 a budget on the first 5 rows to get the rest of the audience to 
 participate).


Super good news as well :)


 Andrei's first talk was mainly concerning with "pure", its 
 variants (strong/weak), rules and benefits, as well as a quick 
 description of CTFE and the famous ctRegex benchmark where D 
 beats everything else. I'm not sure if some slides were skipped 
 over due to time constraints.


I think I've seen that one so many time I could do it myself :)


 Walter's talk was about how D was extended to gradually support 
 more ways to interface with C++ (class/vtable layouts, 
 namespaces, extern(C++), name mangling etc.) and how it helped 
 DDMD.


DO WANT :)


 This was all for the conference. We took the rest of the 
 weekend to tour Brașov and do some sightseeing. The most 
 striking thing about the city is the number of roundabouts - 
 probably 90% of intersections were replaced by them! If you're 
 around, do make sure to make the climb to the mountain looming 
 above the old city (or just take the cable car), the view is 
 awesome.


The city I originally come from is well know for its overuse of 
roundabout as well, preferably all the most confusing forms they 
can exist, like this : 
http://www.lacaravane.com/photos/double-rondpoint-Nantes.jpg or 
that : 
https://inconvenantes.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/rond-point-bouche-dc3a9vier.jpg
Oct 14 2015
prev sibling parent reply Jacob Carlborg <doob me.com> writes:
On 2015-10-15 00:54, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:


 whether we have good debugging GUIs for all platforms, which we don't for OS X.


There's Xcode.

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg
Oct 15 2015
parent reply Jack Stouffer <jack jackstouffer.com> writes:
On Thursday, 15 October 2015 at 17:34:25 UTC, Jacob Carlborg 
wrote:

 On 2015-10-15 00:54, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:


 whether we have good debugging GUIs for all platforms, which 
 we don't for OS X.


 There's Xcode.


Xcode supports D? And I thought that LDC was the only compiler 
that outputs info for LLDB?
Oct 15 2015
parent reply Jacob Carlborg <doob me.com> writes:
On 2015-10-15 23:27, Jack Stouffer wrote:


 Xcode supports D? And I thought that LDC was the only compiler that
 outputs info for LLDB?


No, but it works as good as the underlying debugger that is used. Which 
in this case is lacking. I interpreted the statement as the actual UI, 
not the debugger itself.

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg
Oct 15 2015
parent reply Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQ=?= writes:
On Friday, 16 October 2015 at 06:18:18 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:

 On 2015-10-15 23:27, Jack Stouffer wrote:


 Xcode supports D? And I thought that LDC was the only compiler 
 that
 outputs info for LLDB?


 No, but it works as good as the underlying debugger that is 
 used. Which in this case is lacking. I interpreted the 
 statement as the actual UI, not the debugger itself.


Unfortunately XCode7/lldb doesn't even work for the languages it 
is meant to support. All versions of XCode7 (including the beta) 
keeps crashing on me when debugging C++ code running on the 
ios-simulator. :-(

I wish I knew why...
Oct 16 2015
parent Jacob Carlborg <doob me.com> writes:
On 2015-10-16 09:44, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:


 Unfortunately XCode7/lldb doesn't even work for the languages it is
 meant to support. All versions of XCode7 (including the beta) keeps
 crashing on me when debugging C++ code running on the ios-simulator. :-(

 I wish I knew why...


It's not Swift so... ;)

Have you run the debugger inside the debugger? But I guess that is 
written in C++ as well.

Sounds like a serious regression, if it worked before.

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg
Oct 16 2015