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digitalmars.D.announce - Visual D 1.1.0 released

reply Rainer Schuetze <r.sagitario gmx.de> writes:
Hi,

development on Visual D, the Visual Studio extension that adds D
language support to VS 2008-2019, has been rather slow recently, but
finally the results of recent months have been released.

Some highlights of this new version:

- semantic engine updated to frontend 2.095.1

- adds "adornments" (Visual Studio terminology) to the call
site of parameters that are passed by (mutable) ref, out or lazy. See
https://rainers.github.io/visuald/visuald/images/parameterstorage.png
for some examples.

- integrates dfmt for command "Format Document"

See https://rainers.github.io/visuald/visuald/VersionHistory.html for a
full list of changes.

You can find the update installer or a full installer bundled with
latest versions of DMD and LDC here:

https://rainers.github.io/visuald/visuald/StartPage.html

Cheers,
Rainer
Mar 02 2021
next sibling parent Imperatorn <johan_forsberg_86 hotmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 2 March 2021 at 08:58:15 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

 Hi,

 development on Visual D, the Visual Studio extension that adds 
 D language support to VS 2008-2019, has been rather slow 
 recently, but finally the results of recent months have been 
 released.

 [...]


Thank you!!!
Mar 02 2021
prev sibling next sibling parent Bastiaan Veelo <Bastiaan Veelo.net> writes:
On Tuesday, 2 March 2021 at 08:58:15 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

 finally the results of recent months have been released.


All very cool features, thank you very much!!

--Bastiaan.
Mar 03 2021
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Bastiaan Veelo <Bastiaan Veelo.net> writes:
On Tuesday, 2 March 2021 at 08:58:15 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

 You can find the update installer or a full installer bundled 
 with latest versions of DMD and LDC here:

 https://rainers.github.io/visuald/visuald/StartPage.html


For clarity, the converse is not true. If you use the official 
dmd installer (.exe) and select "Download Visual D" in it then 
you end up with only version 0.50 of VisualD.

-- Bastiaan.
Mar 03 2021
parent Rainer Schuetze <r.sagitario gmx.de> writes:
On 04/03/2021 00:07, Bastiaan Veelo wrote:

 On Tuesday, 2 March 2021 at 08:58:15 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

 You can find the update installer or a full installer bundled with
 latest versions of DMD and LDC here:

 https://rainers.github.io/visuald/visuald/StartPage.html


 
 For clarity, the converse is not true. If you use the official dmd
 installer (.exe) and select "Download Visual D" in it then you end up
 with only version 0.50 of VisualD.


Version 0.50 was the first to include automatic checks for updates, so
it is hopefully not that much of a problem.

But point taken, the DMD installer should be updated from time to time,
too. Or just check for the latest version...
Mar 03 2021
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Imperatorn <johan_forsberg_86 hotmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 2 March 2021 at 08:58:15 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

 Hi,

 development on Visual D, the Visual Studio extension that adds 
 D language support to VS 2008-2019, has been rather slow 
 recently, but finally the results of recent months have been 
 released.

 Some highlights of this new version:

 - semantic engine updated to frontend 2.095.1

 - adds "adornments" (Visual Studio terminology) to the call
 site of parameters that are passed by (mutable) ref, out or 
 lazy. See
 https://rainers.github.io/visuald/visuald/images/parameterstorage.png
 for some examples.

 - integrates dfmt for command "Format Document"

 See 
 https://rainers.github.io/visuald/visuald/VersionHistory.html 
 for a full list of changes.

 You can find the update installer or a full installer bundled 
 with latest versions of DMD and LDC here:

 https://rainers.github.io/visuald/visuald/StartPage.html

 Cheers,
 Rainer


A few questions.

How hard would the following be:

1. Highlight code as dead or alive in static if

2. Show typeid when hovering over a variable

I have gifs showing what I mean. I'll post them when I get back 
to my laptop.
Mar 04 2021
next sibling parent reply Imperatorn <johan_forsberg_86 hotmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 4 March 2021 at 13:29:11 UTC, Imperatorn wrote:

 On Tuesday, 2 March 2021 at 08:58:15 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

 [...]


 A few questions.

 How hard would the following be:

 1. Highlight code as dead or alive in static if

 2. Show typeid when hovering over a variable

 I have gifs showing what I mean. I'll post them when I get back 
 to my laptop.


https://filebin.net/19gupoeedfdjx5tx


with static if, and the other is displaying typeid on hover.
Mar 04 2021
next sibling parent reply Bastiaan Veelo <Bastiaan Veelo.net> writes:
On Thursday, 4 March 2021 at 13:42:47 UTC, Imperatorn wrote:

 On Thursday, 4 March 2021 at 13:29:11 UTC, Imperatorn wrote:

 On Tuesday, 2 March 2021 at 08:58:15 UTC, Rainer Schuetze 
 wrote:

 [...]


 A few questions.

 How hard would the following be:

 1. Highlight code as dead or alive in static if

 2. Show typeid when hovering over a variable

 I have gifs showing what I mean. I'll post them when I get 
 back to my laptop.


 https://filebin.net/19gupoeedfdjx5tx


 well with static if, and the other is displaying typeid on 
 hover.


It already does this, I would say.

1. The D equivalent of your use of `#if ... #else ... #endif` is 
`version() {...} else {...}`, which works in VisualD the same way 
as you show. `static if` is different: the condition often 
depends on the value of template parameters, so this does not 
simply translate to "dead" or "alive" in every case.

2. typeid is a runtime concept (takes inheritance into account) 
so this won't work in an editor outside of a debugging session. 
However VisualD already shows the (static) type and scope of 
variables on mouse-over, which is all you can wish for, I think.

-- Bastiaan.
Mar 04 2021
parent Imperatorn <johan_forsberg_86 hotmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 4 March 2021 at 17:18:38 UTC, Bastiaan Veelo wrote:

 On Thursday, 4 March 2021 at 13:42:47 UTC, Imperatorn wrote:

 [...]


 It already does this, I would say.

 1. The D equivalent of your use of `#if ... #else ... #endif` 
 is `version() {...} else {...}`, which works in VisualD the 
 same way as you show. `static if` is different: the condition 
 often depends on the value of template parameters, so this does 
 not simply translate to "dead" or "alive" in every case.

 2. typeid is a runtime concept (takes inheritance into account) 
 so this won't work in an editor outside of a debugging session. 
 However VisualD already shows the (static) type and scope of 
 variables on mouse-over, which is all you can wish for, I think.

 -- Bastiaan.


Oh, maybe Visual D has been updated with it lately? When I made 
the gif (some months ago?) you can see that no type information 
is available.
Mar 04 2021
prev sibling parent reply Kagamin <spam here.lot> writes:
On Thursday, 4 March 2021 at 13:42:47 UTC, Imperatorn wrote:

 https://filebin.net/19gupoeedfdjx5tx


 well with static if, and the other is displaying typeid on 
 hover.


The second is a debug session. Visual Studio doesn't show type 

and value.
Mar 05 2021
parent reply Imperatorn <johan_forsberg_86 hotmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 5 March 2021 at 10:57:05 UTC, Kagamin wrote:

 On Thursday, 4 March 2021 at 13:42:47 UTC, Imperatorn wrote:

 https://filebin.net/19gupoeedfdjx5tx


 well with static if, and the other is displaying typeid on 
 hover.


 The second is a debug session. Visual Studio doesn't show type 

 and value.


True, but could it?
Mar 05 2021
parent reply Rainer Schuetze <r.sagitario gmx.de> writes:
On 05/03/2021 12:26, Imperatorn wrote:

 On Friday, 5 March 2021 at 10:57:05 UTC, Kagamin wrote:

 On Thursday, 4 March 2021 at 13:42:47 UTC, Imperatorn wrote:

 https://filebin.net/19gupoeedfdjx5tx


 static if, and the other is displaying typeid on hover.


 The second is a debug session. Visual Studio doesn't show type



 
 True, but could it?


Visual D already does that with the help of the semantic highlighting:
if an identifier is classified as a type or compile time value, it
suppresses the debugger data tool tip and presents the usual one.
Mar 05 2021
parent reply Imperatorn <johan_forsberg_86 hotmail.com> writes:
On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 06:59:28 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

 On 05/03/2021 12:26, Imperatorn wrote:

 On Friday, 5 March 2021 at 10:57:05 UTC, Kagamin wrote:

 On Thursday, 4 March 2021 at 13:42:47 UTC, Imperatorn wrote:

 https://filebin.net/19gupoeedfdjx5tx


 well with static if, and the other is displaying typeid on 
 hover.


 The second is a debug session. Visual Studio doesn't show 

 variable name and value.


 
 True, but could it?


 Visual D already does that with the help of the semantic 
 highlighting: if an identifier is classified as a type or 
 compile time value, it suppresses the debugger data tool tip 
 and presents the usual one.


Oh, I see. What about dub integration. How much effort would it 
be to have something similar to what code-d has in vsc? 
Guesstimation?
Mar 06 2021
parent reply Rainer Schuetze <r.sagitario gmx.de> writes:
On 06/03/2021 12:55, Imperatorn wrote:

 On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 06:59:28 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

 On 05/03/2021 12:26, Imperatorn wrote:

 On Friday, 5 March 2021 at 10:57:05 UTC, Kagamin wrote:

 On Thursday, 4 March 2021 at 13:42:47 UTC, Imperatorn wrote:

 https://filebin.net/19gupoeedfdjx5tx


 with static if, and the other is displaying typeid on hover.


 The second is a debug session. Visual Studio doesn't show type

 value.


 True, but could it?


 Visual D already does that with the help of the semantic highlighting:
 if an identifier is classified as a type or compile time value, it
 suppresses the debugger data tool tip and presents the usual one.


 
 Oh, I see. What about dub integration. How much effort would it be to
 have something similar to what code-d has in vsc? Guesstimation?


I'm not much of a dub user. Last time I checked, using it as a package
manager was fine, but not as a build tool. Dependency checks were
incomplete and rather slow. The visuald project generation is pretty
dated and doesn't support multiple configurations which kind of breaks
the usual VS workflow.

I think for better integration dub project generation needs to be
improved (and extended to vcxproj files), or Visual D has to do it
itself from "dub describe" (if that's possible). The latter would also
allow seamless updates of the project in the background.

Then, integration of package management can be considered.
Mar 09 2021
parent reply Petar Kirov [ZombineDev] <petar.p.kirov gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 10 March 2021 at 07:29:44 UTC, Rainer Schuetze 
wrote:

 On 06/03/2021 12:55, Imperatorn wrote:

 On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 06:59:28 UTC, Rainer Schuetze 
 wrote:

 On 05/03/2021 12:26, Imperatorn wrote:

 On Friday, 5 March 2021 at 10:57:05 UTC, Kagamin wrote:

 On Thursday, 4 March 2021 at 13:42:47 UTC, Imperatorn wrote:

 https://filebin.net/19gupoeedfdjx5tx


 as well with static if, and the other is displaying typeid 
 on hover.


 The second is a debug session. Visual Studio doesn't show 

 variable name and value.


 True, but could it?


 Visual D already does that with the help of the semantic 
 highlighting: if an identifier is classified as a type or 
 compile time value, it suppresses the debugger data tool tip 
 and presents the usual one.


 
 Oh, I see. What about dub integration. How much effort would 
 it be to have something similar to what code-d has in vsc? 
 Guesstimation?


 I'm not much of a dub user. Last time I checked, using it as a 
 package manager was fine, but not as a build tool. Dependency 
 checks were incomplete and rather slow. The visuald project 
 generation is pretty dated and doesn't support multiple 
 configurations which kind of breaks the usual VS workflow.

 I think for better integration dub project generation needs to 
 be improved (and extended to vcxproj files), or Visual D has to 
 do it itself from "dub describe" (if that's possible). The 
 latter would also allow seamless updates of the project in the 
 background.

 Then, integration of package management can be considered.


As far as I remember (circa 2015) Mono-D [0] was the IDE with the 
best Dub support - you could just open dub.json files as if they 
were project files (sln/csproj). This was by far the most 
seamless experience back when I was using IDEs more heavily.

Visual-D could also use Dub as a library, similar to [1][2]. Also 
it would be nice to integrate code.dlang.org, just like NuGet is 
integrated for .NET in VS.

[0]: https://wiki.dlang.org/Mono-D
[1]: https://github.com/Pure-D/workspace-d
[2]: 
https://github.com/atilaneves/reggae/tree/master/src/reggae/dub/interop
Mar 12 2021
parent Imperatorn <johan_forsberg_86 hotmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 12 March 2021 at 10:04:05 UTC, Petar Kirov 
[ZombineDev] wrote:

 On Wednesday, 10 March 2021 at 07:29:44 UTC, Rainer Schuetze 
 wrote:

 [...]


 As far as I remember (circa 2015) Mono-D [0] was the IDE with 
 the best Dub support - you could just open dub.json files as if 
 they were project files (sln/csproj). This was by far the most 
 seamless experience back when I was using IDEs more heavily.

 Visual-D could also use Dub as a library, similar to [1][2]. 
 Also it would be nice to integrate code.dlang.org, just like 
 NuGet is integrated for .NET in VS.

 [0]: https://wiki.dlang.org/Mono-D
 [1]: https://github.com/Pure-D/workspace-d
 [2]: 
 https://github.com/atilaneves/reggae/tree/master/src/reggae/dub/interop


Yeah, this would be awesome deluxe
Mar 12 2021
prev sibling parent reply Rainer Schuetze <r.sagitario gmx.de> writes:
On 04/03/2021 14:29, Imperatorn wrote:

 A few questions.
 
 How hard would the following be:
 
 1. Highlight code as dead or alive in static if
 
 2. Show typeid when hovering over a variable
 


Adding to what Bastiaan said:

"Lowlighting" disabled code in static if() similar to debug/version
conditions is on my list of things to implement, but indeed, it might
get confusing in templates because a random instantiation is currently
used to show semantic information for its members.

Hovering a variable should show its type in the tool tip (note that you
can click the type in the tip to jump to its definition). But your
example shows that there is a problem with the expression "typeid(T)",
as no information is shown when hovering T inside the parenthesis.
Probably an omission in the visitor.
Mar 05 2021
parent Imperatorn <johan_forsberg_86 hotmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 5 March 2021 at 08:50:59 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

 On 04/03/2021 14:29, Imperatorn wrote:

 A few questions.
 
 How hard would the following be:
 
 1. Highlight code as dead or alive in static if
 
 2. Show typeid when hovering over a variable
 


 Adding to what Bastiaan said:

 "Lowlighting" disabled code in static if() similar to 
 debug/version conditions is on my list of things to implement, 
 but indeed, it might get confusing in templates because a 
 random instantiation is currently used to show semantic 
 information for its members.

 Hovering a variable should show its type in the tool tip (note 
 that you can click the type in the tip to jump to its 
 definition). But your example shows that there is a problem 
 with the expression "typeid(T)", as no information is shown 
 when hovering T inside the parenthesis. Probably an omission in 
 the visitor.


Ok, thanks for working on Visual D. Imo it's the best IDE we have 
in D currently. One thing that would be awesome though is better 

nuget. Code-D has solved this by having a search bar,

I don't know if that would be possible in VS tho, I'm just 
talking before thinking. It's risky and I like it 😎
Mar 05 2021
prev sibling next sibling parent reply James Lu <jamtlu gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 2 March 2021 at 08:58:15 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

 Hi,

 development on Visual D, the Visual Studio extension that adds 
 D language support to VS 2008-2019, has been rather slow 
 recently, but finally the results of recent months have been 
 released.

 Some highlights of this new version:

 - semantic engine updated to frontend 2.095.1

 - adds "adornments" (Visual Studio terminology) to the call
 site of parameters that are passed by (mutable) ref, out or 
 lazy. See
 https://rainers.github.io/visuald/visuald/images/parameterstorage.png
 for some examples.

 - integrates dfmt for command "Format Document"

 See 
 https://rainers.github.io/visuald/visuald/VersionHistory.html 
 for a full list of changes.

 You can find the update installer or a full installer bundled 
 with latest versions of DMD and LDC here:

 https://rainers.github.io/visuald/visuald/StartPage.html

 Cheers,
 Rainer


Hi,

I've gotten D articles to the frontpage of Hacker News 4 times.

I think this would be a good candidate to get to the frontpage of 
Hacker News again.

I want you to submit it to Hacker News, then add a comment saying:

* Explain why you made this
* Explain what's interesting about Visual D
* Offer to explain questions

Use the title: "Visual Studio Code for D Language 1.1.0"
Mar 04 2021
parent Rainer Schuetze <r.sagitario gmx.de> writes:
On 04/03/2021 14:43, James Lu wrote:

 On Tuesday, 2 March 2021 at 08:58:15 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

 Hi,

 development on Visual D, the Visual Studio extension that adds D
 language support to VS 2008-2019, has been rather slow recently, but
 finally the results of recent months have been released.

 Some highlights of this new version:

 - semantic engine updated to frontend 2.095.1

 - adds "adornments" (Visual Studio terminology) to the call
 site of parameters that are passed by (mutable) ref, out or lazy. See
 https://rainers.github.io/visuald/visuald/images/parameterstorage.png
 for some examples.

 - integrates dfmt for command "Format Document"

 See https://rainers.github.io/visuald/visuald/VersionHistory.html for
 a full list of changes.

 You can find the update installer or a full installer bundled with
 latest versions of DMD and LDC here:

 https://rainers.github.io/visuald/visuald/StartPage.html

 Cheers,
 Rainer


 
 Hi,
 
 I've gotten D articles to the frontpage of Hacker News 4 times.
 
 I think this would be a good candidate to get to the frontpage of Hacker
 News again.
 
 I want you to submit it to Hacker News, then add a comment saying:
 
 * Explain why you made this
 * Explain what's interesting about Visual D
 * Offer to explain questions



 
 Use the title: "Visual Studio Code for D Language 1.1.0"


Thanks for the suggestion. I'm not a user of these social news sites,
though, and even don't have time to keep track of discussions on the D
forums lately.

BTW: Visual D is not an extension for VS Code, but plain ol' Visual Studio.
Mar 05 2021
prev sibling next sibling parent kinke <noone nowhere.com> writes:
Thx Rainer, always much appreciated.

On Tuesday, 2 March 2021 at 08:58:15 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

 See 
 https://rainers.github.io/visuald/visuald/images/parameterstorage.png for some
examples.


Very cool.
Mar 06 2021
prev sibling parent Dylan Graham <dylan.graham2000 gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 2 March 2021 at 08:58:15 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

 Hi,

 development on Visual D, the Visual Studio extension that adds 
 D language support to VS 2008-2019, has been rather slow 
 recently, but finally the results of recent months have been 
 released.

 [...]


Thanks for update. I love the adornments feature - one thing I 

work!
Mar 26 2021