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digitalmars.D.announce - VisualD now on github.com/d-programming-language

reply Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/visuald

Congratulations to Rainer Schuetze and collaborators for this great work!
Sep 09 2013
next sibling parent reply "Tove" <tove fransson.se> writes:
On Tuesday, 10 September 2013 at 06:42:06 UTC, Walter Bright 
wrote:

 https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/visuald

 Congratulations to Rainer Schuetze and collaborators for this 
 great work!


Horray! Great news.

Some initial nit-picking:

According to 
http://www.dsource.org/projects/visuald/wiki/Installation
"Visual Studio Shell 2012" is supported.

But https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/visuald only 
mentions:
* Supported Visual Studio versions
   - VS.NET 2003 (some limitations apply)
   - VS 2005
   - VS 2008
   - VS 2010

1) I assume that the full non express 2012 is supported also?

2) VS Shell 2010 link   
http://www.dsource.org/projects/visuald/wiki/Installation is 
broken.

3) Preferably the two links to The Visual Studio Shell 2012 
should be visible in the github readme.
Sep 10 2013
parent reply Rainer Schuetze <r.sagitario gmx.de> writes:
On 10.09.2013 11:50, Tove wrote:

 On Tuesday, 10 September 2013 at 06:42:06 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:

 https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/visuald

 Congratulations to Rainer Schuetze and collaborators for this great work!


 Horray! Great news.

 Some initial nit-picking:

 According to http://www.dsource.org/projects/visuald/wiki/Installation
 "Visual Studio Shell 2012" is supported.

 But https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/visuald only mentions:
 * Supported Visual Studio versions
    - VS.NET 2003 (some limitations apply)
    - VS 2005
    - VS 2008
    - VS 2010

 1) I assume that the full non express 2012 is supported also?

 2) VS Shell 2010 link  
 http://www.dsource.org/projects/visuald/wiki/Installation is broken.

 3) Preferably the two links to The Visual Studio Shell 2012 should be
 visible in the github readme.


Thanks for pointing these out. The README didn't receive a lot of 
attention lately, most of the documentation and news is on the web site. 
I agree, with it being displayed on the front github page it should be 
updated.
Sep 10 2013
next sibling parent reply "Tove" <tove fransson.se> writes:
On Tuesday, 10 September 2013 at 18:10:33 UTC, Rainer Schuetze 
wrote:

 Thanks for pointing these out. The README didn't receive a lot 
 of attention lately, most of the documentation and news is on 
 the web site. I agree, with it being displayed on the front 
 github page it should be updated.


No problem, I thought of one additional idea to enhance first 
impressions...

Is this stable enough to be made default enabled in future 
releases?
"Use Alexander Bothe's D parsing engine for semantic analysis"
"writing '.'"

I only found it because I remember reading about it on this very 
forum, it is my fear that other new users won't find it and hence 
consider the intellisense-experience lacking.

After enabling this tiny checkbox,... wow, I love it! Thanks 
again!
Sep 10 2013
next sibling parent reply "FrogLegs" <poopoo yahoo.com> writes:
  Does VisualD work with VS2013?
Sep 10 2013
parent Rainer Schuetze <r.sagitario gmx.de> writes:
On 10.09.2013 22:43, FrogLegs wrote:

   Does VisualD work with VS2013?


I just adapted the installer script and tried it with VS2013 RC. Seems 
to work fine from a first glance, it will be available with the next 
release.
Sep 10 2013
prev sibling parent Rainer Schuetze <r.sagitario gmx.de> writes:
On 10.09.2013 22:03, Tove wrote:

 On Tuesday, 10 September 2013 at 18:10:33 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

 Thanks for pointing these out. The README didn't receive a lot of
 attention lately, most of the documentation and news is on the web
 site. I agree, with it being displayed on the front github page it
 should be updated.


 No problem, I thought of one additional idea to enhance first
 impressions...

 Is this stable enough to be made default enabled in future releases?
 "Use Alexander Bothe's D parsing engine for semantic analysis"
 "writing '.'"

 I only found it because I remember reading about it on this very forum,
 it is my fear that other new users won't find it and hence consider the
 intellisense-experience lacking.

 After enabling this tiny checkbox,... wow, I love it! Thanks again!


Yeah, it's quite a bit better than the integrated analyzer. Plus, 
Alexander is constantly improving it while I'm busy with other stuff. 
I'll think about making it the default in the next release.
Sep 10 2013
prev sibling parent Jacob Carlborg <doob me.com> writes:
On 2013-09-10 20:10, Rainer Schuetze wrote:


 Thanks for pointing these out. The README didn't receive a lot of
 attention lately, most of the documentation and news is on the web site.
 I agree, with it being displayed on the front github page it should be
 updated.


Rename it to README.md and you can use Github markdown to have a nicely 
formatted readme.

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg
Sep 11 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent Manu <turkeyman gmail.com> writes:
Indeed, massive thanks!
On 10 Sep 2013 16:45, "Walter Bright" <newshound2 digitalmars.com> wrote:


 https://github.com/D-**Programming-Language/visuald<https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/visuald>

 Congratulations to Rainer Schuetze and collaborators for this great work!
Sep 10 2013
prev sibling parent reply "develop32" <develop32 gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 10 September 2013 at 06:42:06 UTC, Walter Bright 
wrote:

 https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/visuald

 Congratulations to Rainer Schuetze and collaborators for this 
 great work!


Do you have plans for changing the homepage for VisualD? The one 
on dsource is more related to the old repository.
Sep 10 2013
parent reply Rainer Schuetze <r.sagitario gmx.de> writes:
On 10.09.2013 12:24, develop32 wrote:

 On Tuesday, 10 September 2013 at 06:42:06 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:

 https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/visuald

 Congratulations to Rainer Schuetze and collaborators for this great work!


 Do you have plans for changing the homepage for VisualD? The one on
 dsource is more related to the old repository.


It is planned to move the homepage to dlang.org. It might take some time 
to convert the wiki pages to some other format which can be used to 
generate the pages (ddoc?). Easiest would probably be to add it to 
wiki.dlang.org, but I'm unsure whether this is appropriate.
Sep 10 2013
parent reply Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 9/10/2013 11:18 AM, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

 It is planned to move the homepage to dlang.org. It might take some time to
 convert the wiki pages to some other format which can be used to generate the
 pages (ddoc?). Easiest would probably be to add it to wiki.dlang.org, but I'm
 unsure whether this is appropriate.


The main documentation should be in ddoc and part of dlang.org. The wiki is for 
user-supplied supplemental information.

I know this will be a fair amount of work, and will take time. I'm sure Rainer 
could use some help from anyone who wants to step up!
Sep 10 2013
parent reply Rainer Schuetze <r.sagitario gmx.de> writes:
On 10.09.2013 21:26, Walter Bright wrote:

 On 9/10/2013 11:18 AM, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

 It is planned to move the homepage to dlang.org. It might take some
 time to
 convert the wiki pages to some other format which can be used to
 generate the
 pages (ddoc?). Easiest would probably be to add it to wiki.dlang.org,
 but I'm
 unsure whether this is appropriate.


 The main documentation should be in ddoc and part of dlang.org. The wiki
 is for user-supplied supplemental information.

 I know this will be a fair amount of work, and will take time. I'm sure
 Rainer could use some help from anyone who wants to step up!


I have converted the documentation to DDoc. Here's the result: 
http://rainers.github.io/visuald/visuald/StartPage.html
Sep 13 2013
next sibling parent reply Andrej Mitrovic <andrej.mitrovich gmail.com> writes:
On 9/13/13, Rainer Schuetze <r.sagitario gmx.de> wrote:

 I have converted the documentation to DDoc. Here's the result:
 http://rainers.github.io/visuald/visuald/StartPage.html


Looks sweet! Btw, I suggest making that picture in the lower-right
clickable so you can zoom in to get the full resolution picture.
Sep 13 2013
parent Rainer Schuetze <r.sagitario gmx.de> writes:
On 13.09.2013 22:16, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:

 On 9/13/13, Rainer Schuetze <r.sagitario gmx.de> wrote:

 I have converted the documentation to DDoc. Here's the result:
 http://rainers.github.io/visuald/visuald/StartPage.html


 Looks sweet! Btw, I suggest making that picture in the lower-right
 clickable so you can zoom in to get the full resolution picture.


Yeah, I also wanted to click it ;-) Will do.
Sep 13 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Andrej Mitrovic <andrej.mitrovich gmail.com> writes:
On 9/13/13, Rainer Schuetze <r.sagitario gmx.de> wrote:

 I have converted the documentation to DDoc. Here's the result:
 http://rainers.github.io/visuald/visuald/StartPage.html


I'm not sure if I mentioned this before, but I have to comment on the
following section:

```
Library search path not passed to linker

Even though Visual D allows to set a library search path, this does
not work with the default installation of DMD. Optlink, the linker
used by DMD, only accepts the path in the LIB environment variable..
```

Doesn't the -L+ switch work for you? I've documented it here:
http://wiki.dlang.org/Compiling_and_linking_with_DMD_on_Windows#Passing_search_directories_for_static_library_files_to_Optlink
Sep 13 2013
parent Rainer Schuetze <r.sagitario gmx.de> writes:
On 13.09.2013 22:31, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:

 On 9/13/13, Rainer Schuetze <r.sagitario gmx.de> wrote:

 I have converted the documentation to DDoc. Here's the result:
 http://rainers.github.io/visuald/visuald/StartPage.html


 I'm not sure if I mentioned this before, but I have to comment on the
 following section:

 ```
 Library search path not passed to linker

 Even though Visual D allows to set a library search path, this does
 not work with the default installation of DMD. Optlink, the linker
 used by DMD, only accepts the path in the LIB environment variable..
 ```

 Doesn't the -L+ switch work for you? I've documented it here:
 http://wiki.dlang.org/Compiling_and_linking_with_DMD_on_Windows#Passing_search_directories_for_static_library_files_to_Optlink


-L+libpath\ does not work if you also want to pass resource or def file. 
-L always appends the arguments to the end of the command line, but the 
library paths must be added before the ',' that separates libraries and 
resource file.

Actually, that paragraph is out of date, because Visual D can now call 
optlink separately and will do this if you have specified additional 
library paths.
Sep 13 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 9/13/2013 1:01 PM, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

 I have converted the documentation to DDoc. Here's the result:
 http://rainers.github.io/visuald/visuald/StartPage.html



Very nice!
Sep 13 2013
prev sibling parent Manu <turkeyman gmail.com> writes:
On 14 September 2013 06:01, Rainer Schuetze <r.sagitario gmx.de> wrote:


 On 10.09.2013 21:26, Walter Bright wrote:


 On 9/10/2013 11:18 AM, Rainer Schuetze wrote:


 It is planned to move the homepage to dlang.org. It might take some
 time to
 convert the wiki pages to some other format which can be used to
 generate the
 pages (ddoc?). Easiest would probably be to add it to wiki.dlang.org,
 but I'm
 unsure whether this is appropriate.


 The main documentation should be in ddoc and part of dlang.org. The wiki
 is for user-supplied supplemental information.

 I know this will be a fair amount of work, and will take time. I'm sure
 Rainer could use some help from anyone who wants to step up!


 I have converted the documentation to DDoc. Here's the result:
 http://rainers.github.io/**visuald/visuald/StartPage.html<http://rainers.github.io/visuald/visuald/StartPage.html>



Nice! Looks great.
Sep 14 2013