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digitalmars.D.announce - This Week in D, Issue 3

reply "Adam D. Ruppe" <destructionator gmail.com> writes:
I've been out of town this week and also dealing with trying to 
remotely find my lost dog (she got away from the sitter... and no 
luck yet :( ) so I haven't been as active as I often am in the D 
community, but I still made time to compile another issue!

http://arsdnet.net/this-week-in-d/jan-25.html

Also available via RSS: http://arsdnet.net/this-week-in-d/twid.rss

This week's tip goes into the import statement which many people 
use but not everyone realizes what all it can do.

D.announce seemed a bit less active this week too (my criteria 
for inclusion there is simply a new thread made since last time, 
so new posts in an existing thread don't count), but there were a 
lot of bug and pull request action this week (mostly related to 
the style tweaks)!
Jan 25 2015
next sibling parent "Adam D. Ruppe" <destructionator gmail.com> writes:
Reddit: 
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/2tozgb/this_week_in_d_website_makeover_c_interop_import/
Jan 25 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 1/25/2015 9:15 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:

 http://arsdnet.net/this-week-in-d/jan-25.html

 Also available via RSS: http://arsdnet.net/this-week-in-d/twid.rss


Awesome job (as usual!). Thanks, Adam!
Jan 25 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent reply =?UTF-8?B?QWxpIMOHZWhyZWxp?= <acehreli yahoo.com> writes:
On 01/25/2015 09:15 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:


 http://arsdnet.net/this-week-in-d/jan-25.html


Thanks for doing this! :)

There is an exposed $P tag on the page:

   $(P You may combine ...)

Also, a lonely semicolon after the pink text box after that.

Ali
Jan 25 2015
parent "Adam D. Ruppe" <destructionator gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 05:26:23 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:

 There is an exposed $P tag on the page:


Ooops, fixed. Thanks! (remember to refresh to skip your browser 
cache)
Jan 25 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "weaselcat" <weaselcat gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 05:15:51 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:

 I've been out of town this week and also dealing with trying to 
 remotely find my lost dog (she got away from the sitter... and 
 no luck yet :( ) so I haven't been as active as I often am in 
 the D community, but I still made time to compile another issue!

 http://arsdnet.net/this-week-in-d/jan-25.html

 Also available via RSS: 
 http://arsdnet.net/this-week-in-d/twid.rss

 This week's tip goes into the import statement which many 
 people use but not everyone realizes what all it can do.

 D.announce seemed a bit less active this week too (my criteria 
 for inclusion there is simply a new thread made since last 
 time, so new posts in an existing thread don't count), but 
 there were a lot of bug and pull request action this week 
 (mostly related to the style tweaks)!


At first I feared there wouldn't be enough content for you to do 
this weekly but I'm glad I was wrong. D seems more popular than 
ever.

Can't wait for next week's update.
Jan 25 2015
parent reply "Adam D. Ruppe" <destructionator gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 05:42:18 UTC, weaselcat wrote:

 At first I feared there wouldn't be enough content for you to 
 do this weekly but I'm glad I was wrong. D seems more popular 
 than ever.


Yea, and besides, worst case scenario, there's plenty of backlog 
tips or projects I can talk about to fill it in. A single support 
email/SO question/IRC comment can lead to enough material to make 
it look somewhat substantial, even if the forums are pretty dead 
in a week.
Jan 26 2015
parent reply "Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQi?= writes:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 15:15:39 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:

 On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 05:42:18 UTC, weaselcat wrote:

 At first I feared there wouldn't be enough content for you to 
 do this weekly but I'm glad I was wrong. D seems more popular 
 than ever.


 Yea, and besides, worst case scenario, there's plenty of 
 backlog tips or projects I can talk about to fill it in. A 
 single support email/SO question/IRC comment can lead to enough 
 material to make it look somewhat substantial, even if the 
 forums are pretty dead in a week.


I have noticed that email interviews often generate a lot of 
discussion in programming-oriented social media. I guess there 
are many people who have used D in a project you could do an 
email interview with if you feel like having a bit of variety (or 
someone else could perhaps submit an interview conducted on a 
meetup?).

Interviews also don´t have to be fresh, they just have to be 
unpublished so you can "buffer" them as carrots and push it when 
people have time to read and discuss (easter?)
Jan 26 2015
parent reply "Casper =?UTF-8?B?RsOmcmdlbWFuZCI=?= <shorttail hotmail.com> writes:
Did the link disappear from the rust forum? I'm having trouble 
finding anything but three topics there. Also lots of images are 
missing.
Jan 28 2015
next sibling parent "Adam D. Ruppe" <destructionator gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 28 January 2015 at 18:17:39 UTC, Casper Færgemand 
wrote:

 Did the link disappear from the rust forum?


I don't know, it worked Sunday when I tried it but isn't now for 
me...
Jan 28 2015
prev sibling parent "Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQi?= writes:
On Wednesday, 28 January 2015 at 18:17:39 UTC, Casper Færgemand 
wrote:

 Did the link disappear from the rust forum? I'm having trouble 
 finding anything but three topics there. Also lots of images 
 are missing.


Yes, they have renamed it to internals.rust-lang.org

Probably so that discuss.rust-lang.org will be reserved for end 
users now that Rusties are pimping themselves for 1.0.0 release!

Will be interesting to see how it falls out. Go has really 
enjoyed accelerated growth in the eco system after going stable. 
I wonder if the same will happen for Rust.

(Go even have iOS and Android support now... Geez. Searching for 
"http" on github yields Go hits that is at 25% of Java. People 
seem to pick it up fast, it is easy to learn.)
Jan 28 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent reply ketmar <ketmar ketmar.no-ip.org> writes:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 05:15:49 +0000, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:

great. and i never realised that the trick with

  static import arsd.dom;
  import std.xml;

will help to disambiguate identifiers. but it's so obvious after you=20
pointed that out...=
Jan 25 2015
parent "Adam D. Ruppe" <destructionator gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 06:47:35 UTC, ketmar wrote:

 great. and i never realised that the trick with


Aye, static imports I think are a bit underused. The tip section 
(and project spotlight, which takes longer to write but I have a 
few plans for that too) is something I hope can keep active, 
experienced users interested in these newsletters each week too.

This one was inspired by a real life problem I helped an emailer 
though this week, so I was pretty sure it would be worth writing 
up.
Jan 26 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Nick Treleaven <ntrel-pub mybtinternet.com> writes:
On 26/01/2015 05:15, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:

 Also available via RSS: http://arsdnet.net/this-week-in-d/twid.rss


Much appreciated - now works with my Thunderbird, thanks :)
Jan 26 2015
parent zeljkog <zeljkog home.com> writes:
On 26.01.15 14:37, Nick Treleaven wrote:

 On 26/01/2015 05:15, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:

 Also available via RSS: http://arsdnet.net/this-week-in-d/twid.rss


 
 Much appreciated - now works with my Thunderbird, thanks :)


Double :)
Jan 26 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "CraigDillabaugh" <craig.dillabaugh gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 05:15:51 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:

 I've been out of town this week and also dealing with trying to 
 remotely find my lost dog (she got away from the sitter... and 
 no luck yet :( ) so I haven't been as active as I often am in 
 the D community, but I still made time to compile another issue!

 http://arsdnet.net/this-week-in-d/jan-25.html

 Also available via RSS: 
 http://arsdnet.net/this-week-in-d/twid.rss

 This week's tip goes into the import statement which many 
 people use but not everyone realizes what all it can do.

 D.announce seemed a bit less active this week too (my criteria 
 for inclusion there is simply a new thread made since last 
 time, so new posts in an existing thread don't count), but 
 there were a lot of bug and pull request action this week 
 (mostly related to the style tweaks)!


Thanks for your work.  Good luck with the search for your dog!

Craig
Jan 26 2015
parent "Adam D. Ruppe" <destructionator gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 14:01:02 UTC, CraigDillabaugh wrote:

 Good luck with the search for your dog!


Thank. I'm especially worried now because the weather took a turn 
for the worse in Watertown, with sub-zero wind chills and 
snowfall coming. She's been out since Thursday night, and spotted 
yesterday morning by someone, so apparently she has made it 
through the cold nights so far, but it keeps getting worse and 
she's gotta be wearing down...

with any luck though, she'll stop running from people trying to 
help her, then she can get inside.
Jan 26 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQi?= writes:
Nice and focused summary of last week.  Every issue so far has to 
be an improvement over the last one. :-)


(A slight typo: "2017" in the header)
Jan 26 2015
parent reply "Adam D. Ruppe" <destructionator gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 14:38:31 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad 
wrote:

 (A slight typo: "2017" in the header)


oops. fixed.


One thing I did this time that I'm not sure if I want to commit 
to was writing a very brief summary of a couple of the threads. 
(It had to be very brief tbh because I didn't actually read them 
all myself, I had just been skimming)

I think it would be too much to do that for everything, but I do 
like the idea and might do it for at least a few when I can going 
forward.

One thing I don't want this to ever be is *just* a list of links.
Jan 26 2015
parent reply "Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQi?= writes:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 14:48:52 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:

 One thing I did this time that I'm not sure if I want to commit 
 to was writing a very brief summary of a couple of the threads. 
 (It had to be very brief tbh because I didn't actually read 
 them all myself, I had just been skimming)

 I think it would be too much to do that for everything, but I 
 do like the idea and might do it for at least a few when I can 
 going forward.

 One thing I don't want this to ever be is *just* a list of 
 links.


Yes, if there is too much trivia on the top of the newsletter 
people might loose interest and miss out on the "Tip of the 
week", which could be an important channel for "incremental 
education".

I guess forum summaries are most interesting if there is:

1. a sense of movement/change of direction

2.  new directions (new framework or compiler)

3. encouragement to participate if there is contention around an 
important issue before implementation (like before improving the 
GC).

An acid test would be asking yourself "will this discussion topic 
be notable after a month?".


I think the usual "hot today" forum topics ought be profiled on 
dlang.org front page using heuristics. I think dlang.org could 
list more than 8 threads, with a "more link" that goes to the  
forum page. (I doubt most people will use the scroll bar, and it 
looks ugly :-).

If a forum announcement acts as an "official blog news 
announcement" then a snippet ought to be present on the front 
page and in the "This Week in D", with a "read more" link?


Anyway, keep up the good work. I like where you are going with 
this! :-)
Jan 26 2015
parent "Adam D. Ruppe" <destructionator gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 15:07:09 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad 
wrote:

 Yes, if there is too much trivia on the top of the newsletter 
 people might loose interest and miss out on the "Tip of the 
 week", which could be an important channel for "incremental 
 education".


Right. I thought about putting the tip (etc.) sections on the top 
too, but then I felt pressured to shorten them so the links 
aren't too far away and that felt wrong.

This week's turned out pretty good though, I'm happy with this 
length and order


 I guess forum summaries are most interesting if there is:


Right. Sometimes that is hard to tell though - long threads have 
often seemed significant, but ended up going nowhere in the past. 
But that's also the difference between significant threads and 
major changes - the threads are just talk, the major changes are 
based on some concrete step.


 If a forum announcement acts as an "official blog news 
 announcement" then a snippet ought to be present on the front 
 page and in the "This Week in D", with a "read more" link?


The subject of announce posts is often pretty good IMO. I haven't 
felt the need to summarize them much.


 Anyway, keep up the good work. I like where you are going with 
 this! :-)


thanks
Jan 26 2015
prev sibling parent "ParticlePeter" <ParticlePeter gmx.de> writes:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 05:15:51 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:

 I've been out of town this week and also dealing with trying to 
 remotely find my lost dog (she got away from the sitter... and 
 no luck yet :( ) so I haven't been as active as I often am in 
 the D community, but I still made time to compile another issue!

 http://arsdnet.net/this-week-in-d/jan-25.html

 Also available via RSS: 
 http://arsdnet.net/this-week-in-d/twid.rss

 This week's tip goes into the import statement which many 
 people use but not everyone realizes what all it can do.

 D.announce seemed a bit less active this week too (my criteria 
 for inclusion there is simply a new thread made since last 
 time, so new posts in an existing thread don't count), but 
 there were a lot of bug and pull request action this week 
 (mostly related to the style tweaks)!


Hi Adam,
enjoy reading your articles but it was/is kind of difficult to 
find them. I browse dlang.org frequently but irregularly and 
Issue 3 popped accidentally into my eye. I could not find any 
obvious link to Issues 1 and 2 (searching the announce forum does 
not count as obvious) and had to guess the URLs based on 
"weekly". I would suggest to collect the links to all Issues on 
the URL: http://arsdnet.net/this-week-in-d
What do you think?

Regards, ParticlePeter
Jan 29 2015