digitalmars.D.announce - The D Language Foundation has $5000 to its name
- Andrei Alexandrescu (8/8) Nov 17 2015 Quite timely after the announcement of that $600K donation for the Julia...
- cym13 (4/12) Nov 17 2015 What do you plan to do concretely with that money? Advertise?
- deadalnix (2/17) Nov 18 2015 Outspend Julia !
- Andrei Alexandrescu (3/17) Nov 19 2015 DConf is our largest annual spender. Also we plan a few small monthly
- Brad Anderson (30/55) Nov 22 2015 I have a recommendation for fairly small expense which would be a
- Rikki Cattermole (5/48) Nov 22 2015 Given Apple's approach of disallowing any programs not signed to run by
- Bill Baxter via Digitalmars-d-announce (8/68) Nov 22 2015 It doesn't require a system change to run unsigned stuff on the Mac, it
- Rikki Cattermole (4/10) Nov 22 2015 That is one more hurdle then on every other platform.
- rsw0x (4/20) Nov 22 2015 no other platform requires you to pay money so your users aren't
- Dicebot (2/2) Nov 22 2015 And how about GPG signing of releases which comes free and
- Brad Anderson (5/7) Nov 22 2015 On linux, sure. That'd be a good idea. That doesn't help with the
- Vladimir Panteleev (4/6) Nov 23 2015 When you hover over any of the download links on
- Dicebot (8/14) Nov 23 2015 Whoa, this must be pretty new. Though subkey used seems to be
- Martin Nowak (5/8) Nov 27 2015 Why should I renew the subkey w/o cause?
- Dicebot (4/13) Nov 27 2015 You shouldn't, sorry for confusion - it was simply line of
- Jacob Carlborg (4/7) Nov 23 2015 It does for installers.
- Vladimir Panteleev (7/10) Nov 23 2015 With https://letsencrypt.org/ launching very soon, it might not
Quite timely after the announcement of that $600K donation for the Julia language, I'm happy to announce that the D Language Foundation has a bank account seeded with $5000 - as I promised, it's a round-up of my last royalty check. The D Language Foundation doesn't yet have non-profit status, so we can't accept donations in that account; that'll take a few more months. I'll keep everybody posted. Andrei
Nov 17 2015
On Tuesday, 17 November 2015 at 20:54:34 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:Quite timely after the announcement of that $600K donation for the Julia language, I'm happy to announce that the D Language Foundation has a bank account seeded with $5000 - as I promised, it's a round-up of my last royalty check. The D Language Foundation doesn't yet have non-profit status, so we can't accept donations in that account; that'll take a few more months. I'll keep everybody posted. AndreiWhat do you plan to do concretely with that money? Advertise? Support projects?
Nov 17 2015
On Tuesday, 17 November 2015 at 21:01:42 UTC, cym13 wrote:On Tuesday, 17 November 2015 at 20:54:34 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:Outspend Julia !Quite timely after the announcement of that $600K donation for the Julia language, I'm happy to announce that the D Language Foundation has a bank account seeded with $5000 - as I promised, it's a round-up of my last royalty check. The D Language Foundation doesn't yet have non-profit status, so we can't accept donations in that account; that'll take a few more months. I'll keep everybody posted. AndreiWhat do you plan to do concretely with that money? Advertise? Support projects?
Nov 18 2015
On 11/17/2015 04:01 PM, cym13 wrote:On Tuesday, 17 November 2015 at 20:54:34 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:DConf is our largest annual spender. Also we plan a few small monthly expenses. I'll keep everyone posted. -- AndreiQuite timely after the announcement of that $600K donation for the Julia language, I'm happy to announce that the D Language Foundation has a bank account seeded with $5000 - as I promised, it's a round-up of my last royalty check. The D Language Foundation doesn't yet have non-profit status, so we can't accept donations in that account; that'll take a few more months. I'll keep everybody posted. AndreiWhat do you plan to do concretely with that money? Advertise? Support projects?
Nov 19 2015
On Thursday, 19 November 2015 at 12:31:01 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:On 11/17/2015 04:01 PM, cym13 wrote:I have a recommendation for fairly small expense which would be a perfect job for the newly formed Foundation. Get some certificates for D. Walter was interested in the past with getting one for Digital Mars to use but I think the idea got lost somewhere along the way. There are three different certificates that would be good to have: 1. SSL certificate for dlang.org (optionally getting an EV certificate would be a good way to advertise the Foundation in the address bar). 2. Code signing certificate for Windows from a Certificate Authority. 3. OS X code signing certificate from Apple. The first two can be done pretty inexpensively through StartSSL (there are plenty of other options though). Apple isn't as important because I don't believe it does the Untrusted Developer warning for opening .dmg files nor does it do it for running command line applications. It's good for tamper security though. To register with Apple you'll need a DUNS number for the Foundation which you can create through Dun & Bradshaw (not sure if it's free). Code signing the installers and executables means the Windows SmartScreen protection systems won't kick in and give big, scary warnings with non-obvious workarounds about the D downloads. It also means the Admin Privilege request dialog would display the Foundation's name which looks way more professional and trustworthy than an unsigned executable. I think doing this eventually is important if you want D to look professional and ready for primetime.On Tuesday, 17 November 2015 at 20:54:34 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:DConf is our largest annual spender. Also we plan a few small monthly expenses. I'll keep everyone posted. -- AndreiQuite timely after the announcement of that $600K donation for the Julia language, I'm happy to announce that the D Language Foundation has a bank account seeded with $5000 - as I promised, it's a round-up of my last royalty check. The D Language Foundation doesn't yet have non-profit status, so we can't accept donations in that account; that'll take a few more months. I'll keep everybody posted. AndreiWhat do you plan to do concretely with that money? Advertise? Support projects?
Nov 22 2015
On 23/11/15 10:45 AM, Brad Anderson wrote:On Thursday, 19 November 2015 at 12:31:01 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:Given Apple's approach of disallowing any programs not signed to run by default, we REALLY need to get all programs for OSX signed. IMO its more important then all the others, since it actively requires system change to make things work.On 11/17/2015 04:01 PM, cym13 wrote:I have a recommendation for fairly small expense which would be a perfect job for the newly formed Foundation. Get some certificates for D. Walter was interested in the past with getting one for Digital Mars to use but I think the idea got lost somewhere along the way. There are three different certificates that would be good to have: 1. SSL certificate for dlang.org (optionally getting an EV certificate would be a good way to advertise the Foundation in the address bar). 2. Code signing certificate for Windows from a Certificate Authority. 3. OS X code signing certificate from Apple. The first two can be done pretty inexpensively through StartSSL (there are plenty of other options though). Apple isn't as important because I don't believe it does the Untrusted Developer warning for opening .dmg files nor does it do it for running command line applications. It's good for tamper security though. To register with Apple you'll need a DUNS number for the Foundation which you can create through Dun & Bradshaw (not sure if it's free). Code signing the installers and executables means the Windows SmartScreen protection systems won't kick in and give big, scary warnings with non-obvious workarounds about the D downloads. It also means the Admin Privilege request dialog would display the Foundation's name which looks way more professional and trustworthy than an unsigned executable. I think doing this eventually is important if you want D to look professional and ready for primetime.On Tuesday, 17 November 2015 at 20:54:34 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:DConf is our largest annual spender. Also we plan a few small monthly expenses. I'll keep everyone posted. -- AndreiQuite timely after the announcement of that $600K donation for the Julia language, I'm happy to announce that the D Language Foundation has a bank account seeded with $5000 - as I promised, it's a round-up of my last royalty check. The D Language Foundation doesn't yet have non-profit status, so we can't accept donations in that account; that'll take a few more months. I'll keep everybody posted. AndreiWhat do you plan to do concretely with that money? Advertise? Support projects?
Nov 22 2015
It doesn't require a system change to run unsigned stuff on the Mac, it just requires knowing the trick: open by ctrl-clicking on the icon and choosing "Open" from the pop-up menu. If you open it that way then it will ask you if you really really want to open it, and there you can say yes. If you, do it won't ask you again. --bb On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 7:46 PM, Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d-announce <digitalmars-d-announce puremagic.com> wrote:On 23/11/15 10:45 AM, Brad Anderson wrote:On Thursday, 19 November 2015 at 12:31:01 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:Given Apple's approach of disallowing any programs not signed to run by default, we REALLY need to get all programs for OSX signed. IMO its more important then all the others, since it actively requires system change to make things work.On 11/17/2015 04:01 PM, cym13 wrote:I have a recommendation for fairly small expense which would be a perfect job for the newly formed Foundation. Get some certificates for D. Walter was interested in the past with getting one for Digital Mars to use but I think the idea got lost somewhere along the way. There are three different certificates that would be good to have: 1. SSL certificate for dlang.org (optionally getting an EV certificate would be a good way to advertise the Foundation in the address bar). 2. Code signing certificate for Windows from a Certificate Authority. 3. OS X code signing certificate from Apple. The first two can be done pretty inexpensively through StartSSL (there are plenty of other options though). Apple isn't as important because I don't believe it does the Untrusted Developer warning for opening .dmg files nor does it do it for running command line applications. It's good for tamper security though. To register with Apple you'll need a DUNS number for the Foundation which you can create through Dun & Bradshaw (not sure if it's free). Code signing the installers and executables means the Windows SmartScreen protection systems won't kick in and give big, scary warnings with non-obvious workarounds about the D downloads. It also means the Admin Privilege request dialog would display the Foundation's name which looks way more professional and trustworthy than an unsigned executable. I think doing this eventually is important if you want D to look professional and ready for primetime.On Tuesday, 17 November 2015 at 20:54:34 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:DConf is our largest annual spender. Also we plan a few small monthly expenses. I'll keep everyone posted. -- AndreiQuite timely after the announcement of that $600K donation for the Julia language, I'm happy to announce that the D Language Foundation has a bank account seeded with $5000 - as I promised, it's a round-up of my last royalty check. The D Language Foundation doesn't yet have non-profit status, so we can't accept donations in that account; that'll take a few more months. I'll keep everybody posted. AndreiWhat do you plan to do concretely with that money? Advertise? Support projects?
Nov 22 2015
On 23/11/15 4:55 PM, Bill Baxter via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:It doesn't require a system change to run unsigned stuff on the Mac, it just requires knowing the trick: open by ctrl-clicking on the icon and choosing "Open" from the pop-up menu. If you open it that way then it will ask you if you really really want to open it, and there you can say yes. If you, do it won't ask you again. --bbThat is one more hurdle then on every other platform. And I don't like the idea of us propagating that this trick most likely is needed. It makes us look bad.
Nov 22 2015
On Monday, 23 November 2015 at 03:59:25 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:On 23/11/15 4:55 PM, Bill Baxter via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:no other platform requires you to pay money so your users aren't inconveniencedIt doesn't require a system change to run unsigned stuff on the Mac, it just requires knowing the trick: open by ctrl-clicking on the icon and choosing "Open" from the pop-up menu. If you open it that way then it will ask you if you really really want to open it, and there you can say yes. If you, do it won't ask you again. --bbThat is one more hurdle then on every other platform. And I don't like the idea of us propagating that this trick most likely is needed. It makes us look bad.
Nov 22 2015
And how about GPG signing of releases which comes free and actually helps? :P
Nov 22 2015
On Monday, 23 November 2015 at 04:37:18 UTC, Dicebot wrote:And how about GPG signing of releases which comes free and actually helps? :POn linux, sure. That'd be a good idea. That doesn't help with the usage problems on the other platforms though and GPG is kind of useless without the website certificate to serve the files and public keys.
Nov 22 2015
On Monday, 23 November 2015 at 04:37:18 UTC, Dicebot wrote:And how about GPG signing of releases which comes free and actually helps? :PWhen you hover over any of the download links on http://dlang.org/download.html, a corresponding .sig link will appear. Is this not what you're referring to?
Nov 23 2015
On Monday, 23 November 2015 at 08:33:10 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:On Monday, 23 November 2015 at 04:37:18 UTC, Dicebot wrote:Whoa, this must be pretty new. Though subkey used seems to be almost 1 year old now. sub rsa4096/12BB1939 2015-02-27 That is very cool, though decision to put the mention of .sig into hover hint is weird :) I'll sign the key in that case, should start building some trust web.And how about GPG signing of releases which comes free and actually helps? :PWhen you hover over any of the download links on http://dlang.org/download.html, a corresponding .sig link will appear. Is this not what you're referring to?
Nov 23 2015
On Monday, 23 November 2015 at 12:35:35 UTC, Dicebot wrote:Whoa, this must be pretty new. Though subkey used seems to be almost 1 year old now. sub rsa4096/12BB1939 2015-02-27Why should I renew the subkey w/o cause? Then everybody would need to redownload my public keys. In any case I'd be in favor if more people sign my key, though we could do that next time we meet in person ;).
Nov 27 2015
On Saturday, 28 November 2015 at 04:27:51 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:On Monday, 23 November 2015 at 12:35:35 UTC, Dicebot wrote:You shouldn't, sorry for confusion - it was simply line of thought "haven't noticed before, must be new - but key is relatively old, must be blind" :)Whoa, this must be pretty new. Though subkey used seems to be almost 1 year old now. sub rsa4096/12BB1939 2015-02-27Why should I renew the subkey w/o cause? Then everybody would need to redownload my public keys. In any case I'd be in favor if more people sign my key, though we could do that next time we meet in person ;).
Nov 27 2015
On 2015-11-22 22:45, Brad Anderson wrote:Apple isn't as important because I don't believe it does the Untrusted Developer warning for opening .dmg files nor does it do it for running command line applications.It does for installers. -- /Jacob Carlborg
Nov 23 2015
On Sunday, 22 November 2015 at 21:45:06 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote:1. SSL certificate for dlang.org (optionally getting an EV certificate would be a good way to advertise the Foundation in the address bar).With https://letsencrypt.org/ launching very soon, it might not be necessary to pay for a SSL certificate. BTW, Certum also offers very cheap (~$20 last I checked) personal Windows code-signing certificates for open source projects. The publisher will say "FirstName LastName, Open Source Developer", so probably not applicable to D.
Nov 23 2015