• Lars Ivar Igesund (14/14) Dec 21 2007 Tango made a huge leap towards Phobos compatibility in the 0.99.4 releas...
• Bill Baxter (5/9) Dec 21 2007 Two great steps!
• Kris (25/34) Dec 21 2007 The announcement post did not note this explicitly, but the 0.99.4 relea...
• BLS (4/17) Dec 22 2007 Good morning Bill,
• Bill Baxter (13/32) Dec 22 2007 I don't think it should be necessary. Because std2 only relies on plain...
• Sean Kelly (4/9) Dec 24 2007 Yup. Nearly every module is identical to Phobos but for an import of
• Walter Bright (2/4) Feb 09 2008 Thanks for doing this change. I appreciate it.

Lars Ivar Igesund <larsivar igesund.net> writes:

Tango made a huge leap towards Phobos compatibility in the 0.99.4 release
when changing back to toString from toUtf8. To further simplify use of
Phobos modules with the Tango runtime, Tangobos has been updated, and is
also available as a library bundled with the DMD packages of Tango. 

Any feedback on Tangobos' usage and stability will be appreciated.

The Tangobos homepage can be found at
http://www.dsource.org/projects/tangobos

Downloads:
http://www.dsource.org/projects/tango/wiki/DmdDownloads

Contact:
http://www.dsource.org/projects/tango/wiki/Contact

Signed,

The Tango Team

http://www.dsource.org/projects/tango/wiki/Contributors

Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> writes:

Lars Ivar Igesund wrote:
 Tango made a huge leap towards Phobos compatibility in the 0.99.4 release
 when changing back to toString from toUtf8. To further simplify use of
 Phobos modules with the Tango runtime, Tangobos has been updated, and is
 also available as a library bundled with the DMD packages of Tango. 

Two great steps!

So that means any tango code using toUtf8 will break instantly upon 
upgrading?  Or has toUtf8 just been deprecated?


--bb

"Kris" <foo bar.com> writes:

"Bill Baxter" <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> wrote ...
 Lars Ivar Igesund wrote:
 Tango made a huge leap towards Phobos compatibility in the 0.99.4 release
 when changing back to toString from toUtf8. To further simplify use of
 Phobos modules with the Tango runtime, Tangobos has been updated, and is
 also available as a library bundled with the DMD packages of Tango.

 Two great steps!

 So that means any tango code using toUtf8 will break instantly upon 
 upgrading?  Or has toUtf8 just been deprecated?


 --bb


The announcement post did not note this explicitly, but the 0.99.4 release 
has breaking changes in it. This was likely omitted simply because we've 
been discussing it on IRC for so long that it's now "old news" to those who 
use Tango on a regular basis. Sorry about that. There's a list of all the 
0.99.4 changes on the front page of the Tango site, which has been updated 
regularly since 0.99.3 was released. For the toUtf8() change, you can most 
likely do a simple mechanical change from toUtf8 => toString. At least, 
that's generally what people have been doing.

Anyway, the upshot is that Tango now happily runs ~95% of unchanged (D1) 
Phobos code, via the Tangobos plugin. We made some adjustments in the 0.99.4 
release in order to make this more convenient; the most significant being 
the adoption of toString(). Major kudos to Gregor Richards for creating and 
maintaining Tangobos!
A note on Installation:

Tangobos is nicely bundled for Win32 so that it installs cleanly over an 
existing bundled Tango installation. Specifically, Phobos imports are placed 
into import/tangobos as a sibling of import/tango, a .lib library is placed 
into the usual spot, and sc.ini is replaced with a pre-configured version.

Please let us know about any adjustments you'd like, over at the Tango 
forums or the irc channels.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Tangobos Win32 release is available with the other Tango release files. 
Here is a direct link:

http://downloads.dsource.org/projects/tango/0.99.4/tangobos-0.99.4-bin-win32-dmd.1.024.zip

BLS <nanali nospam-wanadoo.fr> writes:

Bill Baxter schrieb:
 Lars Ivar Igesund wrote:
 Tango made a huge leap towards Phobos compatibility in the 0.99.4 release
 when changing back to toString from toUtf8. To further simplify use of
 Phobos modules with the Tango runtime, Tangobos has been updated, and is
 also available as a library bundled with the DMD packages of Tango. 

 
 Two great steps!
 
 So that means any tango code using toUtf8 will break instantly upon 
 upgrading?  Or has toUtf8 just been deprecated?
 
 
 --bb

Good morning Bill,
Would it make sense to merge your std2 work into Tangobos ?

Bjoern

Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> writes:

BLS wrote:
 Bill Baxter schrieb:
 Lars Ivar Igesund wrote:
 Tango made a huge leap towards Phobos compatibility in the 0.99.4 
 release
 when changing back to toString from toUtf8. To further simplify use of
 Phobos modules with the Tango runtime, Tangobos has been updated, and is
 also available as a library bundled with the DMD packages of Tango. 

 Two great steps!

 So that means any tango code using toUtf8 will break instantly upon 
 upgrading?  Or has toUtf8 just been deprecated?


 --bb

 Good morning Bill,
 Would it make sense to merge your std2 work into Tangobos ?
 
 Bjoern

I don't think it should be necessary.  Because std2 only relies on plain 
D1 phobos, and D1 phobos is what Tangobos is supposed to replace.  So I 
think std2 should just ride fine on top of Tangobos like any other 
phobos-using code.

Put another way, the reason Tangobos has to exist is to paste over the 
low-level differences in phobos and tango.  So even inside Tangobos I 
suspect most of the modules are practically unchanged from the original 
phobos source.

As to whether it would be useful to have it be part of a standard 
Phobos/Tangobos install, I dunno.  Someone using those things regularly 
would be in a better position to answer that.

--bb

Sean Kelly <sean f4.ca> writes:

Bill Baxter wrote:
 
 Put another way, the reason Tangobos has to exist is to paste over the 
 low-level differences in phobos and tango.  So even inside Tangobos I 
 suspect most of the modules are practically unchanged from the original 
 phobos source.

Yup.  Nearly every module is identical to Phobos but for an import of 
std.compat to handle the differences in object.d.


Sean

Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> writes:

Lars Ivar Igesund wrote:
 Tango made a huge leap towards Phobos compatibility in the 0.99.4 release
 when changing back to toString from toUtf8.

Thanks for doing this change. I appreciate it.