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digitalmars.D.announce - Summer cleanup on https://issues.dlang.org

reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
I just made a pass through https://issues.dlang.org for a cleanup. It 
used to have many small projects that were of low traffic yet enjoyed 
the same visibility as the main ones. So I took the following actions:

* Consolidated all small tools (obj2asm, optlink, etc) under "tools".

* Consolidated all D2.x versions under D2.

* Consolidated D1 & D2 issues under D2.

* Retired D1. It's closed for new submissions.

* Kept the following projects: dlang.org, dmd, druntime, installer, 
phobos, tools, and visuald. The respective github page is linked in each 
project description.

The intent of these changes should simplify and defragment navigating 
the issues list and entering issues.


Enjoy!

Andrei
Jun 08 2015
next sibling parent reply Stewart Gordon <smjg_1998 yahoo.com> writes:
On 09/06/2015 06:33, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
<snip>

 * Consolidated D1 & D2 issues under D2.


It appears that you've changed everything to D2 indiscriminately, including
issues that 
have nothing to do with the D language or compiler, let alone D2 (e.g. issues
with the 
Bugzilla installation, and issues with Dstress, which IIRC was never updated to
D2).

If we effectively aren't using the Version field anymore, we ought to do away
with it. 
I'm guessing there's a way to remove this field from the interface, but I don't
know.  If 
we're keeping it, we really should have either some kind of 'N/A' option for
issues that 
aren't about the D language or compiler, or versions in the list for these
other tools as 
well.


 * Retired D1. It's closed for new submissions.


<snip>

What has happened to those bugs that were applicable to D1 only - either
specific to D1 in 
the first place or fixed in D2 but not in D1?

Stewart.

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Jun 09 2015
parent Mathias Lang via Digitalmars-d-announce writes:
2015-06-09 13:20 GMT+02:00 Stewart Gordon via Digitalmars-d-announce <
digitalmars-d-announce puremagic.com>:


  * Retired D1. It's closed for new submissions.


 <snip>

 What has happened to those bugs that were applicable to D1 only - either
 specific to D1 in the first place or fixed in D2 but not in D1?

 Stewart.

 --
 My email address is valid but not my primary mailbox and not checked
 regularly.  Please keep replies on the 'group where everybody may benefit.


They are still here, but apparently you can tag any new D1 issue, see for
example: https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12634 (they also still
show up in the search).



 Jun 09 2015



prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Vladimir Panteleev" <vladimir thecybershadow.net>  writes:


On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 05:33:24 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

 * Consolidated all small tools (obj2asm, optlink, etc) under 
 "tools".


I'm not sure about this change. I think there should be a 
separate component for the tools in our tools/ repo, and for the 
DigitalMars tools which only Walter Bright can effectively fix 
(OPTLINK, obj2asm, implib, coffimplib, etc.). It also doesn't 
align with:


 The respective github page is linked in each project 
 description.





 Jun 09 2015



  parent reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org>  writes:


On 6/9/15 5:39 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:

 On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 05:33:24 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 * Consolidated all small tools (obj2asm, optlink, etc) under "tools".


 I'm not sure about this change. I think there should be a separate
 component for the tools in our tools/ repo, and for the DigitalMars
 tools which only Walter Bright can effectively fix (OPTLINK, obj2asm,
 implib, coffimplib, etc.). It also doesn't align with:


 The respective github page is linked in each project description.




The decision stands. Too many obscure choices presented with equal 
importance is just a bad user experience. Right now people can choose 
quickly and easily from seven categories. I've actually considered 
folding visuald into tools, but I'll leave it alone for now. -- Andrei



 Jun 09 2015



 next sibling parent  "Vladimir Panteleev" <vladimir thecybershadow.net>  writes:


On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 19:15:41 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

 The decision stands. Too many obscure choices presented with 
 equal importance is just a bad user experience. Right now 
 people can choose quickly and easily from seven categories. 
 I've actually considered folding visuald into tools, but I'll 
 leave it alone for now. -- Andrei


OK, please update the description of the tools component in that 
case to mention that it also includes the DM tools.



 Jun 09 2015



prev sibling  parent reply "Vladimir Panteleev" <vladimir thecybershadow.net>  writes:


On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 19:15:41 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

 The decision stands. Too many obscure choices presented with 
 equal importance is just a bad user experience.


There is more to this than just user experience.

If you go to file a bug in a large mature project, for example 
KDE or Firefox, you'll see that their Bugzilla instances have 
myriads of projects, components and subcomponents. There is 
actually an important reason for this: each component can have a 
maintainer, who will be notified and automatically assigned to 
the bug. If a maintainer resigns, his components can be divided 
among others.

I have long thought that we should encourage "ownership" of parts 
of Phobos (and the project as a whole). For example, I'm 
interested in receiving bug reports and reviewing PRs concerning 
std.file and std.process (but not e.g. std.algorithm). Bugzilla 
has the capability of automatically choosing an assignee for the 
respective component, we would just need to configure it.

Getting past contributors involved is one way we can fight lack 
of PR reviews. The new subscription feature of forum.dlang.org is 
another step towards this, but I have a few more things planned 
to bring this idea in full force.



 Jun 09 2015



  parent  Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org>  writes:


On 6/9/15 12:33 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:

 On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 19:15:41 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 The decision stands. Too many obscure choices presented with equal
 importance is just a bad user experience.


 There is more to this than just user experience.

 If you go to file a bug in a large mature project, for example KDE or
 Firefox, you'll see that their Bugzilla instances have myriads of
 projects, components and subcomponents. There is actually an important
 reason for this: each component can have a maintainer, who will be
 notified and automatically assigned to the bug. If a maintainer resigns,
 his components can be divided among others.


A good point to keep in mind for the future. Until now we had a 
fragmentation that served nobody and was a net negative. Culling that is 
an improvement.


 I have long thought that we should encourage "ownership" of parts of
 Phobos (and the project as a whole). For example, I'm interested in
 receiving bug reports and reviewing PRs concerning std.file and
 std.process (but not e.g. std.algorithm). Bugzilla has the capability of
 automatically choosing an assignee for the respective component, we
 would just need to configure it.


I think that's awesome. I'd say let's chunk Phobos into subcomponents 
once we have, say, five folks who want to chip in. For now we just need 
an ombudsman to dispatch all Phobos issues to... well, to the up to four 
folks who will sign up until that :o).


Andrei



 Jun 09 2015



prev sibling  parent reply "Vladimir Panteleev" <vladimir thecybershadow.net>  writes:


On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 05:33:24 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

 I just made a pass through https://issues.dlang.org for a 
 cleanup.


Next time we do something like this, we need to find a way to do 
this without sending thousands of emails to damn near everyone 
who's ever reported a bug :P

http://forum.dlang.org/post/hatvzzpgmsbtgkfbwlxj forum.dlang.org

[vladde] Could someone explain to me why DFeed is spamming that 
Andrei has replied to something, but the links only go to issues 
filed 7 to 5 years ago?
[vladde] This is getting quite annoying actually

[Dr_Jakob] Wtf have they done with the bugs?

[ladyfriday] I unchecked all the boxes on bugzilla for email, and 
I'm still getting all these bloody notifications emailed to me 
every couple of minutes >.>
[ladyfriday] got woken up by them, and they've been going all day
[ladyfriday] can't even unsubscribe



 Jun 09 2015



 next sibling parent reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org>  writes:


On 6/9/15 1:54 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:

 On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 05:33:24 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I just made a pass through https://issues.dlang.org for a cleanup.


 Next time we do something like this, we need to find a way to do this
 without sending thousands of emails to damn near everyone who's ever
 reported a bug :P

 http://forum.dlang.org/post/hatvzzpgmsbtgkfbwlxj forum.dlang.org

 [vladde] Could someone explain to me why DFeed is spamming that Andrei
 has replied to something, but the links only go to issues filed 7 to 5
 years ago?
 [vladde] This is getting quite annoying actually

 [Dr_Jakob] Wtf have they done with the bugs?

 [ladyfriday] I unchecked all the boxes on bugzilla for email, and I'm
 still getting all these bloody notifications emailed to me every couple
 of minutes >.>
 [ladyfriday] got woken up by them, and they've been going all day
 [ladyfriday] can't even unsubscribe


That's pretty messed up of bugzilla, apologies to whomever is seeing 
this. I've used "change several issues at once", which I implicitly 
assumed would entail grouping email just the same.


Andrei



 Jun 09 2015



  parent  Bill Baxter via Digitalmars-d-announce  writes:


On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu via
Digitalmars-d-announce <digitalmars-d-announce puremagic.com> wrote:


 On 6/9/15 1:54 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:


 On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 05:33:24 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:


 I just made a pass through https://issues.dlang.org for a cleanup.


 Next time we do something like this, we need to find a way to do this
 without sending thousands of emails to damn near everyone who's ever
 reported a bug :P

 http://forum.dlang.org/post/hatvzzpgmsbtgkfbwlxj forum.dlang.org

 [vladde] Could someone explain to me why DFeed is spamming that Andrei
 has replied to something, but the links only go to issues filed 7 to 5
 years ago?
 [vladde] This is getting quite annoying actually

 [Dr_Jakob] Wtf have they done with the bugs?

 [ladyfriday] I unchecked all the boxes on bugzilla for email, and I'm
 still getting all these bloody notifications emailed to me every couple
 of minutes >.>
 [ladyfriday] got woken up by them, and they've been going all day
 [ladyfriday] can't even unsubscribe


 That's pretty messed up of bugzilla, apologies to whomever is seeing this.
 I've used "change several issues at once", which I implicitly assumed would
 entail grouping email just the same.


No prob.  I enjoyed the trip down memory lane.  :-)

--bb



 Jun 09 2015



prev sibling  parent  Nick Sabalausky <SeeWebsiteToContactMe semitwist.com>  writes:


On 06/09/2015 04:54 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:

 On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 at 05:33:24 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 I just made a pass through https://issues.dlang.org for a cleanup.


 Next time we do something like this, we need to find a way to do this
 without sending thousands of emails to damn near everyone who's ever
 reported a bug :P

 http://forum.dlang.org/post/hatvzzpgmsbtgkfbwlxj forum.dlang.org

 [vladde] Could someone explain to me why DFeed is spamming that Andrei
 has replied to something, but the links only go to issues filed 7 to 5
 years ago?
 [vladde] This is getting quite annoying actually

 [Dr_Jakob] Wtf have they done with the bugs?

 [ladyfriday] I unchecked all the boxes on bugzilla for email, and I'm
 still getting all these bloody notifications emailed to me every couple
 of minutes >.>
 [ladyfriday] got woken up by them, and they've been going all day
 [ladyfriday] can't even unsubscribe


http://memegenerator.net/instance2/175337



 Jun 09 2015