• Andrei Alexandrescu (4/4) Aug 24 2012 This good paper seems to be ignored on reddit. I think it's worth a look...
• bearophile (18/21) Aug 24 2012 Some people on Lambda the Ultimate have criticized the quality of
• Adam D. Ruppe (4/4) Aug 24 2012 It isn't surprising, but is still bizarre to me how many people
• Nick Sabalausky (4/9) Aug 24 2012 I agree. C++ and Java have damaged many minds.
• Kagamin (1/3) Aug 24 2012 Python/JS script kiddies?
• Nick Sabalausky (3/7) Aug 24 2012 And PHP monkeys.

Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:

This good paper seems to be ignored on reddit. I think it's worth a look 
particularly for us in a non-mainstream language community.

http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/yon3i/social_influences_on_language_adoption_pdf/


Andrei

"bearophile" <bearophileHUGS lycos.com> writes:

Andrei Alexandrescu:

 http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/yon3i/social_influences_on_language_adoption_pdf/

Some people on Lambda the Ultimate have criticized the quality of 
the sources of the data, but despite those sources not looking 
the best, I think the data is acceptable:
http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4593

One of the things said by the paper is:

Result 8. Curriculum matters more than college major in 
predicting which sorts of languages programmers know.

This result implies that adherents of a particular language 
family, such as functional or logic programming, should emphasize 
introducing developers to these concepts and languages while they 
are still in school. While developers may be willing to learn new 
languages throughout their career, they do not appear nearly so 
inclined to learn new paradigms.<

At the university closest to me I see many various CS teachers 
pushing hard for functional languages (but some courses require 
languages like C or even assembly). So maybe future students will 
be less willing to use imperative/OOP languages.

Bye,
bearophile

"Adam D. Ruppe" <destructionator gmail.com> writes:

It isn't surprising, but is still bizarre to me how many people 
correlated static types with some negative things like 
expressivity and enjoyment.

Static types rok so much in every way.

Nick Sabalausky <SeeWebsiteToContactMe semitwist.com> writes:

On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 18:19:23 +0200
"Adam D. Ruppe" <destructionator gmail.com> wrote:

 It isn't surprising, but is still bizarre to me how many people 
 correlated static types with some negative things like 
 expressivity and enjoyment.
 

I agree. C++ and Java have damaged many minds.

 Static types rok so much in every way.

Hellz yea.

"Kagamin" <spam here.lot> writes:

Still other of our results contradict common beliefs: we find 
significant developer unease with static type systems.

Python/JS script kiddies?

Nick Sabalausky <SeeWebsiteToContactMe semitwist.com> writes:

On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 22:43:24 +0200
"Kagamin" <spam here.lot> wrote:

Still other of our results contradict common beliefs: we find 
significant developer unease with static type systems.

 
 Python/JS script kiddies?

And PHP monkeys.