digitalmars.D.announce - SHOO's time code
- Steven Schveighoffer (4/22) May 13 2010 FYI, John Chapman is no longer a blocker for this path.
- Moritz Warning (3/29) May 13 2010 I have asked Kris Bell and Matti Niemenmaa.
- superdan (2/31) May 17 2010 what'd lars douche say? he's da lord o' the flies over there.
- Moritz Warning (3/34) May 18 2010 Lars isn't listed as an author for the time code in Tango.
- Steven Schveighoffer (5/7) May 18 2010 People have mentioned that there are 5 authors. Does anyone know who th...
- superdan (2/9) May 18 2010 i know who dat is. it's da mythical man-month.
- superdan (9/43) May 18 2010 lotta shit came down just coz ppl couldn't imagine shit was comin' down....
- Steven Schveighoffer (6/8) May 18 2010 Having written most of the API for tango.time, I sorta like it :) I
- superdan (7/15) May 18 2010 i feel ya bro. i once sorta liked a hoe with herpes.
- Moritz Warning (8/26) May 18 2010 Wut?
- Steven Schveighoffer (11/37) May 19 2010 Let's make it a bit clearer. Person A *used* the code from person B, an...
- Moritz Warning (9/52) May 25 2010 at the
- Moritz Warning (2/53) May 25 2010 I have to correct that line, it's more like *no comment*. :/
- Matti Niemenmaa (6/8) May 25 2010 Since this evidently needs confirming: I'm fine with relicensing any of
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:55:51 -0400, Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:07:06 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:FYI, John Chapman is no longer a blocker for this path. -SteveOn Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:02:32 -0400, Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:Well, then let's point this out (we need to contact JC, that's the problem at heart). All the blaming doesn't help anyone.have you thought about just asking the authors of the Tango code in question? I would imagine they would say that they only see a minor resemblance in the api and asking wouldn't even be necessary from their point of view.One of the major authors of the Tango time module, John Chapman, cannot be located so until he is and agrees the proposed Phobos time module cannot be accepted." -Steve
May 13 2010
On Thu, 13 May 2010 16:45:45 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:55:51 -0400, Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:I have asked Kris Bell and Matti Niemenmaa. No Problem at all.On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:07:06 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:FYI, John Chapman is no longer a blocker for this path. -SteveOn Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:02:32 -0400, Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:Well, then let's point this out (we need to contact JC, that's the problem at heart). All the blaming doesn't help anyone.have you thought about just asking the authors of the Tango code in question? I would imagine they would say that they only see a minor resemblance in the api and asking wouldn't even be necessary from their point of view.One of the major authors of the Tango time module, John Chapman, cannot be located so until he is and agrees the proposed Phobos time module cannot be accepted." -Steve
May 13 2010
== Quote from Moritz Warning (moritzwarning web.de)'s articleOn Thu, 13 May 2010 16:45:45 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:what'd lars douche say? he's da lord o' the flies over there.On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:55:51 -0400, Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:I have asked Kris Bell and Matti Niemenmaa. No Problem at all.On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:07:06 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:FYI, John Chapman is no longer a blocker for this path. -SteveOn Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:02:32 -0400, Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:Well, then let's point this out (we need to contact JC, that's the problem at heart). All the blaming doesn't help anyone.have you thought about just asking the authors of the Tango code in question? I would imagine they would say that they only see a minor resemblance in the api and asking wouldn't even be necessary from their point of view.One of the major authors of the Tango time module, John Chapman, cannot be located so until he is and agrees the proposed Phobos time module cannot be accepted." -Steve
May 17 2010
On Tue, 18 May 2010 03:21:25 +0000, superdan wrote:== Quote from Moritz Warning (moritzwarning web.de)'s articleLars isn't listed as an author for the time code in Tango. But anyway, I can't imagine that he would mind.On Thu, 13 May 2010 16:45:45 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:what'd lars douche say? he's da lord o' the flies over there.On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:55:51 -0400, Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:I have asked Kris Bell and Matti Niemenmaa. No Problem at all.On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:07:06 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:FYI, John Chapman is no longer a blocker for this path. -SteveOn Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:02:32 -0400, Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:Well, then let's point this out (we need to contact JC, that's the problem at heart). All the blaming doesn't help anyone.have you thought about just asking the authors of the Tango code in question? I would imagine they would say that they only see a minor resemblance in the api and asking wouldn't even be necessary from their point of view.One of the major authors of the Tango time module, John Chapman, cannot be located so until he is and agrees the proposed Phobos time module cannot be accepted." -Steve
May 18 2010
On Tue, 18 May 2010 06:30:35 -0400, Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:Lars isn't listed as an author for the time code in Tango. But anyway, I can't imagine that he would mind.People have mentioned that there are 5 authors. Does anyone know who the 5th author is? He/she is not listed as an author in the source. -Steve
May 18 2010
== Quote from Steven Schveighoffer (schveiguy yahoo.com)'s articleOn Tue, 18 May 2010 06:30:35 -0400, Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:i know who dat is. it's da mythical man-month.Lars isn't listed as an author for the time code in Tango. But anyway, I can't imagine that he would mind.People have mentioned that there are 5 authors. Does anyone know who the 5th author is? He/she is not listed as an author in the source. -Steve
May 18 2010
== Quote from Moritz Warning (moritzwarning web.de)'s articleOn Tue, 18 May 2010 03:21:25 +0000, superdan wrote:lotta shit came down just coz ppl couldn't imagine shit was comin' down. ask lars douche & get jack bauer to work on da fifth motherfucker. wut a fucked project dis tango shit is. cocksuckers. all da mistery n shit. the motherfuckers won't post shit but bully walt on da phone. wut the fuck is their problem with some fucking date n fucking time fucking calculations. u dunno whom to ask whos responsible for shit. this is fucking cambodia under fucking pol fucking pot. guys go with boost and std.gregorian n shit. sorry shoo. tango is a fucking boat anchor for d. shit.== Quote from Moritz Warning (moritzwarning web.de)'s articleLars isn't listed as an author for the time code in Tango. But anyway, I can't imagine that he would mind.On Thu, 13 May 2010 16:45:45 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:what'd lars douche say? he's da lord o' the flies over there.On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:55:51 -0400, Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:I have asked Kris Bell and Matti Niemenmaa. No Problem at all.On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:07:06 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:FYI, John Chapman is no longer a blocker for this path. -SteveOn Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:02:32 -0400, Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:Well, then let's point this out (we need to contact JC, that's the problem at heart). All the blaming doesn't help anyone.have you thought about just asking the authors of the Tango code in question? I would imagine they would say that they only see a minor resemblance in the api and asking wouldn't even be necessary from their point of view.One of the major authors of the Tango time module, John Chapman, cannot be located so until he is and agrees the proposed Phobos time module cannot be accepted." -Steve
May 18 2010
On Tue, 18 May 2010 09:39:12 -0400, superdan <super dan.org> wrote:guys go with boost and std.gregorian n shit. sorry shoo. tango is a fucking boat anchor for d. shit.Having written most of the API for tango.time, I sorta like it :) I really like the API that SHOO came up with based on it. If there's any way to get SHOO's code into Phobos, I want to pursue that first. If this fails, we can go with boost. -Steve
May 18 2010
== Quote from Steven Schveighoffer (schveiguy yahoo.com)'s articleOn Tue, 18 May 2010 09:39:12 -0400, superdan <super dan.org> wrote:i feel ya bro. i once sorta liked a hoe with herpes. way i c it is simple. it's fucking dates and fucking times. wut the fuck. ain't a fucking operating system. no matter how u dress a pig u still call it a fucking pig. if u have da datetime functionality it don't matter to be cute. we is wasting time sucking lars douche's cock 2 give us permission 2 his fucking shit. fuck that shit. dis must be da least amount of power that got to some idiot's head.guys go with boost and std.gregorian n shit. sorry shoo. tango is a fucking boat anchor for d. shit.Having written most of the API for tango.time, I sorta like it :) I really like the API that SHOO came up with based on it. If there's any way to get SHOO's code into Phobos, I want to pursue that first. If this fails, we can go with boost. -Steve
May 18 2010
On Tue, 18 May 2010 14:24:40 +0000, superdan wrote:== Quote from Steven Schveighoffer (schveiguy yahoo.com)'s articleWut? Person A wrote some code and had a look at code from person B. Now person C says that A need to get permission from B so that C can use the code from A. The reason is because the license of the code written by B isn't quite compatible with the license recently chosen by C. And now you are calling B an idiot/douche for that reason?On Tue, 18 May 2010 09:39:12 -0400, superdan <super dan.org> wrote:i feel ya bro. i once sorta liked a hoe with herpes. way i c it is simple. it's fucking dates and fucking times. wut the fuck. ain't a fucking operating system. no matter how u dress a pig u still call it a fucking pig. if u have da datetime functionality it don't matter to be cute. we is wasting time sucking lars douche's cock 2 give us permission 2 his fucking shit. fuck that shit. dis must be da least amount of power that got to some idiot's head.guys go with boost and std.gregorian n shit. sorry shoo. tango is a fucking boat anchor for d. shit.Having written most of the API for tango.time, I sorta like it :) I really like the API that SHOO came up with based on it. If there's any way to get SHOO's code into Phobos, I want to pursue that first. If this fails, we can go with boost. -Steve
May 18 2010
On Tue, 18 May 2010 14:10:05 -0400, Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:On Tue, 18 May 2010 14:24:40 +0000, superdan wrote:Let's make it a bit clearer. Person A *used* the code from person B, and used the *documentation* of said code to write his own similar library. Person A has not claimed that he looked at the source. Person B claims that it is impossible to do so without actually looking at the source, but has not yet cited any specific copying. Person C doesn't want any trouble, and just is being extra careful. I don't really like the situation, but if this is the way it has to be, then let's get it done and move on. -Steve== Quote from Steven Schveighoffer (schveiguy yahoo.com)'s articleWut? Person A wrote some code and had a look at code from person B. Now person C says that A need to get permission from B so that C can use the code from A. The reason is because the license of the code written by B isn't quite compatible with the license recently chosen by C. And now you are calling B an idiot/douche for that reason?On Tue, 18 May 2010 09:39:12 -0400, superdan <super dan.org> wrote:i feel ya bro. i once sorta liked a hoe with herpes. way i c it is simple. it's fucking dates and fucking times. wut the fuck. ain't a fucking operating system. no matter how u dress a pig u still call it a fucking pig. if u have da datetime functionality it don't matter to be cute. we is wasting time sucking lars douche's cock 2 give us permission 2 his fucking shit. fuck that shit. dis must be da least amount of power that got to some idiot's head.guys go with boost and std.gregorian n shit. sorry shoo. tango is a fucking boat anchor for d. shit.Having written most of the API for tango.time, I sorta like it :) I really like the API that SHOO came up with based on it. If there's any way to get SHOO's code into Phobos, I want to pursue that first. If this fails, we can go with boost. -Steve
May 19 2010
On Wed, 19 May 2010 06:45:42 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:On Tue, 18 May 2010 14:10:05 -0400, Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:I agree, that's more accurate.On Tue, 18 May 2010 14:24:40 +0000, superdan wrote:Let's make it a bit clearer. Person A *used* the code from person B, and used the *documentation* of said code to write his own similar library. Person A has not claimed that he looked at the source.== Quote from Steven Schveighoffer (schveiguy yahoo.com)'s articleWut? Person A wrote some code and had a look at code from person B. Now person C says that A need to get permission from B so that C can use the code from A. The reason is because the license of the code written by B isn't quite compatible with the license recently chosen by C. And now you are calling B an idiot/douche for that reason?On Tue, 18 May 2010 09:39:12 -0400, superdan <super dan.org> wrote:i feel ya bro. i once sorta liked a hoe with herpes. way i c it is simple. it's fucking dates and fucking times. wut the fuck. ain't a fucking operating system. no matter how u dress a pig u still call it a fucking pig. if u have da datetime functionality it don't matter to be cute. we is wasting time sucking lars douche's cock 2 give us permission 2 his fucking shit. fuck that shit. dis must be da least amount of power that got to some idiot's head.guys go with boost and std.gregorian n shit. sorry shoo. tango is a fucking boat anchor for d. shit.Having written most of the API for tango.time, I sorta like it :) I really like the API that SHOO came up with based on it. If there's any way to get SHOO's code into Phobos, I want to pursue that first. If this fails, we can go with boost. -StevePerson B claims that it is impossible to do so without actually lookingat thesource, but has not yet cited any specific copying. Person C doesn't want any trouble, and just is being extra careful.Afaik, Person B haven't looked at the source in question but relied on what others said. I think it was a move forward in anticipation to Person Cs license sensibility. Anyway, Person B haven't hesitated when asked to give permission himself.I don't really like the situation, but if this is the way it has to be, then let's get it done and move on.right :)-Steve
May 25 2010
On Tue, 25 May 2010 13:12:14 +0000, Moritz Warning wrote:On Wed, 19 May 2010 06:45:42 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:I have to correct that line, it's more like *no comment*. :/On Tue, 18 May 2010 14:10:05 -0400, Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:I agree, that's more accurate.On Tue, 18 May 2010 14:24:40 +0000, superdan wrote:Let's make it a bit clearer. Person A *used* the code from person B, and used the *documentation* of said code to write his own similar library. Person A has not claimed that he looked at the source.== Quote from Steven Schveighoffer (schveiguy yahoo.com)'s articleWut? Person A wrote some code and had a look at code from person B. Now person C says that A need to get permission from B so that C can use the code from A. The reason is because the license of the code written by B isn't quite compatible with the license recently chosen by C. And now you are calling B an idiot/douche for that reason?On Tue, 18 May 2010 09:39:12 -0400, superdan <super dan.org> wrote:i feel ya bro. i once sorta liked a hoe with herpes. way i c it is simple. it's fucking dates and fucking times. wut the fuck. ain't a fucking operating system. no matter how u dress a pig u still call it a fucking pig. if u have da datetime functionality it don't matter to be cute. we is wasting time sucking lars douche's cock 2 give us permission 2 his fucking shit. fuck that shit. dis must be da least amount of power that got to some idiot's head.guys go with boost and std.gregorian n shit. sorry shoo. tango is a fucking boat anchor for d. shit.Having written most of the API for tango.time, I sorta like it :) I really like the API that SHOO came up with based on it. If there's any way to get SHOO's code into Phobos, I want to pursue that first. If this fails, we can go with boost. -StevePerson B claims that it is impossible to do so without actually lookingat thesource, but has not yet cited any specific copying. Person C doesn't want any trouble, and just is being extra careful.Afaik, Person B haven't looked at the source in question but relied on what others said. I think it was a move forward in anticipation to Person Cs license sensibility. Anyway, Person B haven't hesitated when asked to give permission himself.
May 25 2010
On 2010-05-14 00:52, Moritz Warning wrote:I have asked Kris Bell and Matti Niemenmaa. No Problem at all.Since this evidently needs confirming: I'm fine with relicensing any of my contributions to the tango.time modules under the Boost Software License, Version 1.0. -- E-mail address: matti.niemenmaa+news, domain is iki (DOT) fi
May 25 2010