• Mike Parker (13/13) Jul 30 2018 I've updated the SAoC page to reflect the decision to accept
• Joakim (3/5) Jul 30 2018 Great! I think this will open up the pool of applicants
• bachmeier (3/6) Jul 31 2018 That seems risky - an employer may claim ownership of those
• Mike Parker (7/13) Jul 31 2018 That's precisely why I mention it. We expect that applicants to
• 12345swordy (4/19) Jul 31 2018 Would it be easier to submit a approved conflict of interest
• Mike Parker (7/9) Jul 31 2018 All I'm saying is that each applicant is responsible for making

Mike Parker <aldacron gmail.com> writes:

I've updated the SAoC page to reflect the decision to accept 
applications from non-university students. I want to make two 
things very clear.

First, preference will be given to university students who can 
provide proof of enrollment. That's not to say that their 
applications will automatically be accepted, but if it comes down 
to a student and a non-student, each with a strong application, 
to fill the final slot, the student will be given preference.

Second, it is incumbent upon non-student applicants who are 
currently employed by a software development firm to ensure there 
are no contractual barriers to participating.

We're also still looking for potential mentors, so if you are 
willing to work in that role, please let me know!

Joakim <dlang joakim.fea.st> writes:

On Tuesday, 31 July 2018 at 03:23:41 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
 I've updated the SAoC page to reflect the decision to accept 
 applications from non-university students.

Great! I think this will open up the pool of applicants 
considerably.

bachmeier <no spam.net> writes:

On Tuesday, 31 July 2018 at 03:23:41 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:

 Second, it is incumbent upon non-student applicants who are 
 currently employed by a software development firm to ensure 
 there are no contractual barriers to participating.

That seems risky - an employer may claim ownership of those 
contributions.

Mike Parker <aldacron gmail.com> writes:

On Tuesday, 31 July 2018 at 13:36:13 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
 On Tuesday, 31 July 2018 at 03:23:41 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:

 Second, it is incumbent upon non-student applicants who are 
 currently employed by a software development firm to ensure 
 there are no contractual barriers to participating.

 That seems risky - an employer may claim ownership of those 
 contributions.

That's precisely why I mention it. We expect that applicants to 
take the necessary steps to verify there are no issues *before* 
applying. If, during the application process, it is discovered 
that there are potential issues, that's grounds for an automatic 
rejection. We do have access to a legal team, so there will be a 
certain level of due diligence where required.

12345swordy <alexanderheistermann gmail.com> writes:

On Tuesday, 31 July 2018 at 13:50:52 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
 On Tuesday, 31 July 2018 at 13:36:13 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
 On Tuesday, 31 July 2018 at 03:23:41 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:

 Second, it is incumbent upon non-student applicants who are 
 currently employed by a software development firm to ensure 
 there are no contractual barriers to participating.

 That seems risky - an employer may claim ownership of those 
 contributions.

 That's precisely why I mention it. We expect that applicants to 
 take the necessary steps to verify there are no issues *before* 
 applying. If, during the application process, it is discovered 
 that there are potential issues, that's grounds for an 
 automatic rejection. We do have access to a legal team, so 
 there will be a certain level of due diligence where required.

Would it be easier to submit a approved conflict of interest 
paper with the application?

-Alexander

Mike Parker <aldacron gmail.com> writes:

On Tuesday, 31 July 2018 at 20:05:28 UTC, 12345swordy wrote:

 Would it be easier to submit a approved conflict of interest 
 paper with the application?

All I'm saying is that each applicant is responsible for making 
sure they are free and clear to participate. If you have an 
employment contract that makes participation problematic, then 
yes, obtaining permission from your employer and including a 
document to that effect with your application would be fulfilling 
that responsibility.