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digitalmars.D.announce - Ruby declared Tiobe language of 2006

reply sclytrack <sclytrack pi.be> writes:
TIOBE Programming Community Index for January 2007
Ruby is now in the top 10. D is at position 14 and still climbing.


Now let us make D the language of 2007.
Jan 07 2007
next sibling parent reply Kyle Furlong <kylefurlong gmail.com> writes:
sclytrack wrote:

 TIOBE Programming Community Index for January 2007
 Ruby is now in the top 10. D is at position 14 and still climbing.
 
 
 Now let us make D the language of 2007.


Hear hear, this is our year!
Jan 07 2007
parent Charlie <charlie.fats gmail.com> writes:
Kyle Furlong wrote:

 sclytrack wrote:

 TIOBE Programming Community Index for January 2007
 Ruby is now in the top 10. D is at position 14 and still climbing.


 Now let us make D the language of 2007.


 
 Hear hear, this is our year!


Hip Hip!
Jan 07 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent reply janderson <askme me.com> writes:
sclytrack wrote:

 TIOBE Programming Community Index for January 2007
 Ruby is now in the top 10. D is at position 14 and still climbing.
 
 
 Now let us make D the language of 2007.


If you take Tiobe as the amount of people who use the language (of 
course it doesn't but let use assume so), D would need grow 7x larger to 
move 11 places up the chain (assuming that of course other factors 
remain constant).  Also D would need to double its population size to 
just to overtake Ruby.

I think Tiobe may be a good tool for forming a battle/marketing plan for 
D.

For instance, Python shares many similarities to D, most importantly its 
funding is limited and it was developed by one guy.  Perhaps some covert 
surveys could be done in these programming languages forums to try to 
figure out why people jumped on the band wagon.  My questions in working 
are:

How long have you been using language X?
Why did you originally start using X?
What features do you like about X?
How do you think X could be improved?

Another thing Tiobe points out is that Java seems to have the biggest 
slice of the pie.  Meaning that you don't need to shake as many apples 
from that tree to increase size of D's apple pie.

Of course you need to demonstrate D as a better alternative to Java. 
Maybe that means finding the most annoying Java traits and demonstrating 
how D is better or improving D along those lines.

I would like to know what other data could be mined from Tiobe 
(http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm).

-Joel
Jan 07 2007
parent reply Ant <duitoolkit yahoo.ca> writes:
janderson wrote:

 sclytrack wrote:

 TIOBE Programming Community Index for January 2007
 Ruby is now in the top 10. D is at position 14 and still climbing.


 Now let us make D the language of 2007.


 
 I think Tiobe may be a good tool for forming a battle/marketing plan for D.
 


Allow me to submit a different idea.

Tiobe ranking for D is crap:
there is no way D should be before lisp, ada, cobol, pascal, hell, even 
rpg on "skilled engineers, courses and third party vendors.", no way!

Who believes that is completely alienated from reality.
(I was gonna say idiot but that's not true - people might just be ignorant)

So Tiobe as a marketing tool will just bring us at best ignorant people.

this is the second time I say this, some others agree with me on the 
first time.
I have to say this because nobody else will.

I have no doubt that D the population size will more than double.

Long live D!

Ant
Jan 07 2007
next sibling parent janderson <askme me.com> writes:
Ant wrote:

 janderson wrote:

 sclytrack wrote:

 TIOBE Programming Community Index for January 2007
 Ruby is now in the top 10. D is at position 14 and still climbing.


 Now let us make D the language of 2007.


 I think Tiobe may be a good tool for forming a battle/marketing plan 
 for D.


 
 Allow me to submit a different idea.
 
 Tiobe ranking for D is crap:
 there is no way D should be before lisp, ada, cobol, pascal, hell, even 
 rpg on "skilled engineers, courses and third party vendors.", no way!


I agree that Tiobe ranking is not accurate (and have never said 
otherwise), however it appears to a least present a picture of D's 
presents or hype on the web which is the best marketing tool D has. 
Also the languages that you would expect are at the top.

I think a language like ADA for instance has less presents on the web 
because they are used in military and NASA type places.  How many 
Military programmers do you know who post stuff up on the web?

<snip>

 
 Ant
Jan 08 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent "Andrey Khropov" <andkhropov_nosp m_mtu-net.ru> writes:
Ant wrote:


 Tiobe ranking for D is crap:
 there is no way D should be before lisp, ada, cobol, pascal, hell, even rpg
 on "skilled engineers, courses and third party vendors.", no way!
 
 Who believes that is completely alienated from reality.
 (I was gonna say idiot but that's not true - people might just be ignorant)
 
 So Tiobe as a marketing tool will just bring us at best ignorant people.
 
 this is the second time I say this, some others agree with me on the first
 time.  I have to say this because nobody else will.
 
 I have no doubt that D the population size will more than double.
 
 Long live D!
 
 Ant


100% agree.

--
Jan 08 2007
prev sibling parent John Reimer <terminal.node gmail.com> writes:
On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 02:51:22 -0500, Ant wrote:


 janderson wrote:

 sclytrack wrote:

 TIOBE Programming Community Index for January 2007
 Ruby is now in the top 10. D is at position 14 and still climbing.


 Now let us make D the language of 2007.


 
 I think Tiobe may be a good tool for forming a battle/marketing plan for D.
 


 
 Allow me to submit a different idea.
 
 Tiobe ranking for D is crap:
 there is no way D should be before lisp, ada, cobol, pascal, hell, even 
 rpg on "skilled engineers, courses and third party vendors.", no way!
 
 Who believes that is completely alienated from reality.
 (I was gonna say idiot but that's not true - people might just be ignorant)
 
 So Tiobe as a marketing tool will just bring us at best ignorant people.
 
 this is the second time I say this, some others agree with me on the 
 first time.
 I have to say this because nobody else will.
 
 I have no doubt that D the population size will more than double.
 
 Long live D!
 
 Ant



I agree with you, Ant.  But you aren't the only one that has mentioned
this. ;)

-JJR
Jan 08 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent janderson <askme me.com> writes:
sclytrack wrote:

 TIOBE Programming Community Index for January 2007
 Ruby is now in the top 10. D is at position 14 and still climbing.
 
 
 Now let us make D the language of 2007.



It looks like D would be second if they had a second place.

-Joel
Jan 08 2007
prev sibling parent reply BLS <Killing_Zoe web.de> writes:
sclytrack schrieb:

 TIOBE Programming Community Index for January 2007
 Ruby is now in the top 10. D is at position 14 and still climbing.
 
 
 Now let us make D the language of 2007.


Well, having a look at the Ruby on Rails Hype, and IMO the may be most 
imortant point, available libraries/bindings ... Then we simply have to 
hope that a working Java2D translator will be available asap. Otherwise 
the goal of making D a mainstream language is absolutely unrealistic.
Means further : Without having a VERY solid lib. framework D will die 
within the next 2-3 years.
Bjoern
Jan 08 2007
parent reply Alexander Panek <a.panek brainsware.org> writes:
BLS wrote:

 sclytrack schrieb:

 TIOBE Programming Community Index for January 2007
 Ruby is now in the top 10. D is at position 14 and still climbing.


 Now let us make D the language of 2007.


 
 Well, having a look at the Ruby on Rails Hype, and IMO the may be most 
 imortant point, available libraries/bindings ... Then we simply have to 
 hope that a working Java2D translator will be available asap. Otherwise 
 the goal of making D a mainstream language is absolutely unrealistic.
 Means further : Without having a VERY solid lib. framework D will die 
 within the next 2-3 years.
 Bjoern


I think Tango will do good as a rock-solid library for now. Apart from 
that, D 1.0 is not even 2 weeks old. So, uh, just relax - carpe Diem.
Jan 08 2007
parent BLS <Killing_Zoe web.de> writes:
Alexander Panek schrieb:


 I think Tango will do good as a rock-solid library for now. Apart from 
 that, D 1.0 is not even 2 weeks old. So, uh, just relax - carpe Diem.


So what : Relax OR Carpe Diem ? :-)

You are right I am too impatient; what I have heared so far about Tango 
sounds pretty good.
Jan 09 2007