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digitalmars.D.announce - Release D 2.078.2

reply Martin Nowak <code+news.digitalmars dawg.eu> writes:
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Glad to announce D 2.078.2.

http://dlang.org/download.html

This point release fixes a few issues over 2.078.2, see the changelog
for more details.

http://dlang.org/changelog/2.078.2.html

This point release also ships with dub 1.7.2 which further improves
reliability.
https://github.com/dlang/dub/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md#v172---2018-02-07

- -Martin
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Feb 09 2018
parent reply Thomas Mader <thomas.mader gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 09:20:14 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:

 This point release also ships with dub 1.7.2 which further 
 improves reliability. 
 https://github.com/dlang/dub/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md#v172---2018-02-07

 - -Martin


https://github.com/dlang/dub/releases/latest doesn't point to 
1.7.2.
Feb 10 2018
next sibling parent Seb <seb wilzba.ch> writes:
On Saturday, 10 February 2018 at 08:17:27 UTC, Thomas Mader wrote:

 On Friday, 9 February 2018 at 09:20:14 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:

 This point release also ships with dub 1.7.2 which further 
 improves reliability. 
 https://github.com/dlang/dub/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md#v172---2018-02-07

 - -Martin


 https://github.com/dlang/dub/releases/latest doesn't point to 
 1.7.2.


https://github.com/dlang/dub/issues/1367
Feb 10 2018
prev sibling parent reply Martin Nowak <code+news.digitalmars dawg.eu> writes:
On 02/10/2018 09:17 AM, Thomas Mader wrote:

 https://github.com/dlang/dub/releases/latest doesn't point to 1.7.2.


Out of curiosity, do you have a strong use-case to install/update dub
separately of the compiler?
Feb 16 2018
next sibling parent reply Eugene Wissner <belka caraus.de> writes:
On Friday, 16 February 2018 at 11:25:42 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:

 On 02/10/2018 09:17 AM, Thomas Mader wrote:

 https://github.com/dlang/dub/releases/latest doesn't point to 
 1.7.2.


 Out of curiosity, do you have a strong use-case to 
 install/update dub separately of the compiler?


I'm shipping dub (as a part of d-tools package) separately from 
the compiler for Slackware Linux. This way it can be built with 
the compiler of choice: dmd, gdc or ldc. It doesn't always make 
sense to ship dub with every compiler since you can use 
--compiler option. And the compiler dub is built with, is the 
default compiler to build dub projects.
Feb 16 2018
parent reply Martin Nowak <code+news.digitalmars dawg.eu> writes:
On 02/17/2018 06:52 AM, Eugene Wissner wrote:

 On Friday, 16 February 2018 at 11:25:42 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:

 On 02/10/2018 09:17 AM, Thomas Mader wrote:

 https://github.com/dlang/dub/releases/latest doesn't point to 1.7.2.


 Out of curiosity, do you have a strong use-case to install/update dub
 separately of the compiler?


 
 I'm shipping dub (as a part of d-tools package) separately from the
 compiler for Slackware Linux. This way it can be built with the compiler
 of choice: dmd, gdc or ldc. It doesn't always make sense to ship dub
 with every compiler since you can use --compiler option. And the
 compiler dub is built with, is the default compiler to build dub projects.


You have any idea for a more sensible default compiler? IIRC dub now
supports any compiler out of the box, but indeed the search order
depends on it's host compiler.

The main goal of shipping dub with the compiler was to simplify
distribution and increase it's usage. Would you say this goal is met, or
should we consider to release dub binaries separately but in sync with
dlang releases.
Feb 19 2018
parent reply Eugene Wissner <belka caraus.de> writes:
On Monday, 19 February 2018 at 10:08:37 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:

 On 02/17/2018 06:52 AM, Eugene Wissner wrote:

 On Friday, 16 February 2018 at 11:25:42 UTC, Martin Nowak 
 wrote:

 On 02/10/2018 09:17 AM, Thomas Mader wrote:

 https://github.com/dlang/dub/releases/latest doesn't point 
 to 1.7.2.


 Out of curiosity, do you have a strong use-case to 
 install/update dub separately of the compiler?


 
 I'm shipping dub (as a part of d-tools package) separately 
 from the
 compiler for Slackware Linux. This way it can be built with 
 the compiler
 of choice: dmd, gdc or ldc. It doesn't always make sense to 
 ship dub
 with every compiler since you can use --compiler option. And 
 the
 compiler dub is built with, is the default compiler to build 
 dub projects.


 You have any idea for a more sensible default compiler? IIRC 
 dub now supports any compiler out of the box, but indeed the 
 search order depends on it's host compiler.

 The main goal of shipping dub with the compiler was to simplify 
 distribution and increase it's usage. Would you say this goal 
 is met, or should we consider to release dub binaries 
 separately but in sync with dlang releases.


It would be great if dub had some global configuration file 
/etc/dub.conf (or dub.json) for example, where the defaults can 
be set (I don't know if something like this already exists), or 
maybe /etc/d/ where dub.conf and dmd.conf can be put - it seems a 
bit cleaner to me.

I think that shipping dub and dmd together is generally a good 
thing. I'm using Ubuntu at work and I'm pretty happy that I can 
just download one package and get the main d tools installed 
together. One of the things I hate about the most deb/rpm based 
distributions, is that the most programs are split in a lot of 
small packages. As for Slackware I want to switch to building dmd 
from source anyway, so I think it doesn't matter a lot for 
maintainers that binary packages have dub as well. And for normal 
people it's just simpler to install everything together as you 
said.
Feb 19 2018
parent rikki cattermole <rikki cattermole.co.nz> writes:
On 19/02/2018 7:43 PM, Eugene Wissner wrote:

 On Monday, 19 February 2018 at 10:08:37 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:

 On 02/17/2018 06:52 AM, Eugene Wissner wrote:

 On Friday, 16 February 2018 at 11:25:42 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:

 On 02/10/2018 09:17 AM, Thomas Mader wrote:

 https://github.com/dlang/dub/releases/latest doesn't point to 1.7.2.


 Out of curiosity, do you have a strong use-case to install/update 
 dub separately of the compiler?


 I'm shipping dub (as a part of d-tools package) separately from the
 compiler for Slackware Linux. This way it can be built with the compiler
 of choice: dmd, gdc or ldc. It doesn't always make sense to ship dub
 with every compiler since you can use --compiler option. And the
 compiler dub is built with, is the default compiler to build dub 
 projects.


 You have any idea for a more sensible default compiler? IIRC dub now 
 supports any compiler out of the box, but indeed the search order 
 depends on it's host compiler.

 The main goal of shipping dub with the compiler was to simplify 
 distribution and increase it's usage. Would you say this goal is met, 
 or should we consider to release dub binaries separately but in sync 
 with dlang releases.


 
 It would be great if dub had some global configuration file 
 /etc/dub.conf (or dub.json) for example, where the defaults can be set 
 (I don't know if something like this already exists), or maybe /etc/d/ 
 where dub.conf and dmd.conf can be put - it seems a bit cleaner to me.


https://github.com/dlang/dub/blob/master/source/dub/dub.d#L218
https://github.com/dlang/dub/blob/master/source/dub/dub.d#L1608
Feb 19 2018
prev sibling parent reply Thomas Mader <thomas.mader gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 16 February 2018 at 11:25:42 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:

 On 02/10/2018 09:17 AM, Thomas Mader wrote:

 https://github.com/dlang/dub/releases/latest doesn't point to 
 1.7.2.


 Out of curiosity, do you have a strong use-case to 
 install/update dub separately of the compiler?


I don't even use or need latest as of yet. I need to download the 
exact same version in my scripts nevertheless.
I just saw that it was not updated and wanted to let you know.

But I package dub and the tools as a separate package from dmd.
Archlinux is doing the same and I find it reasonable. dub and the 
tools should be buildable with other compilers too and one day I 
might switch to ldc as the default compiler for the distribution 
because of speed.
Feb 17 2018
parent Martin Nowak <code+news.digitalmars dawg.eu> writes:
On 02/17/2018 10:35 AM, Thomas Mader wrote:

 But I package dub and the tools as a separate package from dmd.
 Archlinux is doing the same and I find it reasonable. dub and the tools
 should be buildable with other compilers too and one day I might switch
 to ldc as the default compiler for the distribution because of speed.


Dub hardly is CPU bound, and using different binaries (build settings)
on other systems might cause harder to reproduce bugs.
I think we'll transition to gdc or ldc for dmd releases at some point,
if I or someone else find enough time for that.
Feb 19 2018