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digitalmars.D.announce - LDC 1.1.0-beta2 has been released!

reply Kai Nacke <kai redstar.de> writes:
Hi everyone,

LDC 1.1.0-beta2, the LLVM-based D compiler, is available for 
download!
This BETA release is based on the 2.071.1 frontend and standard 
library and supports LLVM 3.5-3.9.

We provide binaries for Linux, OX X, FreeBSD, Win32 & Win64, 
Linux/ARM (armv7hf), now bundled with DUB. :-)

As usual, you can find links to the changelog and the binary 
packages over at digitalmars.D.ldc:
http://forum.dlang.org/post/nskepdckljprrxsjbjyh forum.dlang.org

Regards,
Kai
Aug 03 2016
next sibling parent reply Joakim <dlang joakim.fea.st> writes:
On Wednesday, 3 August 2016 at 20:12:59 UTC, Kai Nacke wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 LDC 1.1.0-beta2, the LLVM-based D compiler, is available for 
 download!
 This BETA release is based on the 2.071.1 frontend and standard 
 library and supports LLVM 3.5-3.9.

 We provide binaries for Linux, OX X, FreeBSD, Win32 & Win64, 
 Linux/ARM (armv7hf), now bundled with DUB. :-)

 As usual, you can find links to the changelog and the binary 
 packages over at digitalmars.D.ldc:
 http://forum.dlang.org/post/nskepdckljprrxsjbjyh forum.dlang.org

 Regards,
 Kai


Great to see ldc catching up with dmd. :)
Aug 03 2016
parent Kai Nacke <kai redstar.de> writes:
On Thursday, 4 August 2016 at 00:27:03 UTC, Joakim wrote:

 Great to see ldc catching up with dmd. :)


The thanks goes to the whole team! Without you this would not be 
possible...
Aug 05 2016
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Emre Temelkuran <etemelkuran gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 3 August 2016 at 20:12:59 UTC, Kai Nacke wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 LDC 1.1.0-beta2, the LLVM-based D compiler, is available for 
 download!
 This BETA release is based on the 2.071.1 frontend and standard 
 library and supports LLVM 3.5-3.9.

 We provide binaries for Linux, OX X, FreeBSD, Win32 & Win64, 
 Linux/ARM (armv7hf), now bundled with DUB. :-)

 As usual, you can find links to the changelog and the binary 
 packages over at digitalmars.D.ldc:
 http://forum.dlang.org/post/nskepdckljprrxsjbjyh forum.dlang.org

 Regards,
 Kai


It should definitely be the reference compiler. Why they're 
wasting power with parallel compilers. :(
Aug 04 2016
next sibling parent reply Rory McGuire via Digitalmars-d-announce writes:
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 3:28 AM, Emre Temelkuran via Digitalmars-d-announce <
digitalmars-d-announce puremagic.com> wrote:


 On Wednesday, 3 August 2016 at 20:12:59 UTC, Kai Nacke wrote:


 Hi everyone,

 LDC 1.1.0-beta2, the LLVM-based D compiler, is available for download!
 This BETA release is based on the 2.071.1 frontend and standard library
 and supports LLVM 3.5-3.9.

 We provide binaries for Linux, OX X, FreeBSD, Win32 & Win64, Linux/ARM
 (armv7hf), now bundled with DUB. :-)

 As usual, you can find links to the changelog and the binary packages
 over at digitalmars.D.ldc:
 http://forum.dlang.org/post/nskepdckljprrxsjbjyh forum.dlang.org

 Regards,
 Kai


 It should definitely be the reference compiler. Why they're wasting power
 with parallel compilers. :(


Its not wasting, diversity is important. The fact that the three "real" D
compilers have pretty much the same language implementation is an important
message to the world about our language. GDC is lagging because of
man-power yes, but that does not mean we're wasting, it just means Ian
could do with some more help :).

R
Aug 04 2016
parent reply Temtaime <temtaime gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 5 August 2016 at 06:13:54 UTC, Rory McGuire wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 3:28 AM, Emre Temelkuran via 
 Digitalmars-d-announce < digitalmars-d-announce puremagic.com> 
 wrote:


 On Wednesday, 3 August 2016 at 20:12:59 UTC, Kai Nacke wrote:


 Hi everyone,

 LDC 1.1.0-beta2, the LLVM-based D compiler, is available for 
 download! This BETA release is based on the 2.071.1 frontend 
 and standard library and supports LLVM 3.5-3.9.

 We provide binaries for Linux, OX X, FreeBSD, Win32 & Win64, 
 Linux/ARM
 (armv7hf), now bundled with DUB. :-)

 As usual, you can find links to the changelog and the binary 
 packages over at digitalmars.D.ldc: 
 http://forum.dlang.org/post/nskepdckljprrxsjbjyh forum.dlang.org

 Regards,
 Kai


 It should definitely be the reference compiler. Why they're 
 wasting power with parallel compilers. :(


 Its not wasting, diversity is important. The fact that the 
 three "real" D compilers have pretty much the same language 
 implementation is an important message to the world about our 
 language. GDC is lagging because of man-power yes, but that 
 does not mean we're wasting, it just means Ian could do with 
 some more help :).

 R


Definitely wasting. Have Rust and Go multiple compilers ?
Aug 05 2016
next sibling parent Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d-announce writes:
On 5 August 2016 at 11:36, Temtaime via Digitalmars-d-announce
<digitalmars-d-announce puremagic.com> wrote:

 On Friday, 5 August 2016 at 06:13:54 UTC, Rory McGuire wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 3:28 AM, Emre Temelkuran via Digitalmars-d-announce
 < digitalmars-d-announce puremagic.com> wrote:


 On Wednesday, 3 August 2016 at 20:12:59 UTC, Kai Nacke wrote:


 Hi everyone,

 LDC 1.1.0-beta2, the LLVM-based D compiler, is available for download!
 This BETA release is based on the 2.071.1 frontend and standard library and
 supports LLVM 3.5-3.9.

 We provide binaries for Linux, OX X, FreeBSD, Win32 & Win64, Linux/ARM
 (armv7hf), now bundled with DUB. :-)

 As usual, you can find links to the changelog and the binary packages
 over at digitalmars.D.ldc:
 http://forum.dlang.org/post/nskepdckljprrxsjbjyh forum.dlang.org

 Regards,
 Kai


 It should definitely be the reference compiler. Why they're wasting power
 with parallel compilers. :(


 Its not wasting, diversity is important. The fact that the three "real" D
 compilers have pretty much the same language implementation is an important
 message to the world about our language. GDC is lagging because of man-power
 yes, but that does not mean we're wasting, it just means Ian could do with
 some more help :).

 R



 Definitely wasting. Have Rust and Go multiple compilers ?


Yes, they do.
Aug 05 2016
prev sibling next sibling parent Rory McGuire via Digitalmars-d-announce writes:
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Temtaime via Digitalmars-d-announce <
digitalmars-d-announce puremagic.com> wrote:


 On Friday, 5 August 2016 at 06:13:54 UTC, Rory McGuire wrote:


 On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 3:28 AM, Emre Temelkuran via
 Digitalmars-d-announce < digitalmars-d-announce puremagic.com> wrote:

 On Wednesday, 3 August 2016 at 20:12:59 UTC, Kai Nacke wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 LDC 1.1.0-beta2, the LLVM-based D compiler, is available for download!
 This BETA release is based on the 2.071.1 frontend and standard library and
 supports LLVM 3.5-3.9.

 We provide binaries for Linux, OX X, FreeBSD, Win32 & Win64, Linux/ARM
 (armv7hf), now bundled with DUB. :-)

 As usual, you can find links to the changelog and the binary packages
 over at digitalmars.D.ldc: http://forum.dlang.org/post/ns
 kepdckljprrxsjbjyh forum.dlang.org

 Regards,
 Kai


 It should definitely be the reference compiler. Why they're wasting
 power with parallel compilers. :(


 Its not wasting, diversity is important. The fact that the three "real" D
 compilers have pretty much the same language implementation is an important
 message to the world about our language. GDC is lagging because of
 man-power yes, but that does not mean we're wasting, it just means Ian
 could do with some more help :).

 R


 Definitely wasting. Have Rust and Go multiple compilers ?


I disagree that it is wasting, however if I'm wrong then wasting is
important. Freedom to disagree and fork and the knowledge that there are
many LLVM developers, and many GCC developers etc, creates a sense of
stability and diversity in licensing and creativity.
Right now, you could go find some obscure gcc backend and start working on
getting gdc working with it. Or you could get LDC to work with some obscure
LLVM backend.

This creates opportunities for student thesis  (plural?)  and personal
experimentation. They all have different implementations with different
concepts and ideologies underlying them. Not everyone thinks the same way
or processes information the same.

Programming is an art, having only one paint brush or one paint brush
supplier would be weird for painters. The same goes for compilers and
software devs.

R
Aug 05 2016
prev sibling parent reply ketmar <ketmar ketmar.no-ip.org> writes:
On Friday, 5 August 2016 at 09:36:54 UTC, Temtaime wrote:

 Definitely wasting. Have Rust and Go multiple compilers ?


my K00l Ultimate Language has no compiler at all. so *ANY* 
compiler is "wasting". thanks for your perfect logic, this was 
what i missed in my arguments against writing compilers.
Aug 05 2016
parent H.Loom <loom grossnet.az> writes:
On Friday, 5 August 2016 at 11:18:22 UTC, ketmar wrote:

 On Friday, 5 August 2016 at 09:36:54 UTC, Temtaime wrote:

 Definitely wasting. Have Rust and Go multiple compilers ?


 my K00l Ultimate Language has no compiler at all. so *ANY* 
 compiler is "wasting". thanks for your perfect logic, this was 
 what i missed in my arguments against writing compilers.


Yes but without this detail it would not work as expected.
Aug 05 2016
prev sibling parent reply Kagamin <spam here.lot> writes:
On Friday, 5 August 2016 at 01:28:39 UTC, Emre Temelkuran wrote:

 It should definitely be the reference compiler. Why they're 
 wasting power with parallel compilers. :(


LLVM lags in windows support, and GDC can generate faster code 
and supports more architectures.
Aug 05 2016
parent kinke <noone nowhere.com> writes:
On Friday, 5 August 2016 at 12:22:05 UTC, Kagamin wrote:

 On Friday, 5 August 2016 at 01:28:39 UTC, Emre Temelkuran wrote:

 It should definitely be the reference compiler. Why they're 
 wasting power with parallel compilers. :(


 LLVM lags in windows support, and GDC can generate faster code 
 and supports more architectures.


I *seriously* doubt GDC's Windows support is better than LDC's. 
;) And comparing GDC/LDC to DMD is comparing apples to oranges 
due to the immense difference in backend/optimizer complexity and 
supported architectures.

The only missing biggie in LLVM for Windows right now is .pdb 
support (debuginfos), which is under active development. Apart 
from that, LLVM's Windows support is close to ideal, fitting 
nicely into the native MSVC toolchain (true for both clang and 
LDC).

I'd also argue that LDC can also generate faster code than GDC 
for some inputs. ;) I'd expect their performance to be more or 
less on par on average.
Aug 05 2016
prev sibling parent reply Lodovico Giaretta <lodovico giaretart.net> writes:
On Wednesday, 3 August 2016 at 20:12:59 UTC, Kai Nacke wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 LDC 1.1.0-beta2, the LLVM-based D compiler, is available for 
 download!
 This BETA release is based on the 2.071.1 frontend and standard 
 library and supports LLVM 3.5-3.9.

 We provide binaries for Linux, OX X, FreeBSD, Win32 & Win64, 
 Linux/ARM (armv7hf), now bundled with DUB. :-)

 As usual, you can find links to the changelog and the binary 
 packages over at digitalmars.D.ldc:
 http://forum.dlang.org/post/nskepdckljprrxsjbjyh forum.dlang.org

 Regards,
 Kai


Is this beta available on Travis, or will it be?
On [1] the last reported version is 1.1.0-alpha1.

Thank you very much for your work.

[1] http://semitwist.com/travis-d-compilers
Aug 08 2016
parent reply David Nadlinger <code klickverbot.at> writes:
On Monday, 8 August 2016 at 16:01:29 UTC, Lodovico Giaretta wrote:

 Is this beta available on Travis, or will it be?


The beta is available from https://dlang.org/install.sh as 
"ldc-1.1.0-beta2", so it should also be accessible on Travis.


 On [1] the last reported version is 1.1.0-alpha1.


This might be due to LDC's LATEST file having been accidentally 
set to alpha 1 before the actual release – IIRC, that page just 
periodically scrapes the output of building with "ldc" on Travis. 
(Users wouldn't usually expect "ldc" to give them an 
alpha-quality compiler, although it seems we were lucky and the 
alpha was already stable enough for nobody to really notice.)

  — David
Aug 08 2016
parent Lodovico Giaretta <lodovico giaretart.net> writes:
On Monday, 8 August 2016 at 16:14:44 UTC, David Nadlinger wrote:

 On Monday, 8 August 2016 at 16:01:29 UTC, Lodovico Giaretta 
 wrote:

 Is this beta available on Travis, or will it be?


 The beta is available from https://dlang.org/install.sh as 
 "ldc-1.1.0-beta2", so it should also be accessible on Travis.


 On [1] the last reported version is 1.1.0-alpha1.


 This might be due to LDC's LATEST file having been accidentally 
 set to alpha 1 before the actual release – IIRC, that page just 
 periodically scrapes the output of building with "ldc" on 
 Travis. (Users wouldn't usually expect "ldc" to give them an 
 alpha-quality compiler, although it seems we were lucky and the 
 alpha was already stable enough for nobody to really notice.)

  — David


Thank you very much. I will try it as soon as possible.
Aug 08 2016