• janderson (3/3) Sep 08 2007 Now 13 (percentage up slightly)
• Vladimir Panteleev (5/7) Sep 08 2007 IIRC, D has been ahead of Delphi for quite some time now?
• janderson (2/10) Sep 08 2007 I think your right. My mistake.
• Manfred Nowak (5/6) Sep 08 2007 IMO the community can push D all the way up to 1 by simply providing a
• janderson (3/12) Sep 09 2007 You are probably right however that it itself may increase the
• renoX (4/13) Sep 09 2007 IMHO doing an action only to increase Tiobe rating is cheating, which is...
• Manfred Nowak (8/10) Sep 09 2007 Every index based on buzz is vulnerable to spam.
• janderson (8/23) Sep 10 2007 If you look at the list, although subject to error, the languages you
• Walter Bright (4/6) Sep 10 2007 The Tiobe index is also deliberately skewed towards the last 12 months.
• Manfred Nowak (12/13) Sep 10 2007 At the very most its a fuzzy indication, but it isn't even presented as
• Bill Baxter (4/8) Oct 10 2007 If you consider just the compiled languages on that list, that makes D

janderson <askme me.com> writes:

Now 13 (percentage up slightly)

http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm
http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm

"Vladimir Panteleev" <thecybershadow gmail.com> writes:

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 09:41:31 +0200, janderson <askme me.com> wrote:

 Now 13 (percentage up slightly)

 http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm

IIRC, D has been ahead of Delphi for quite some time now?

-- 
Best regards,
  Vladimir                          mailto:thecybershadow gmail.com

janderson <askme me.com> writes:

Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
 On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 09:41:31 +0200, janderson <askme me.com> wrote:
 
 Now 13 (percentage up slightly)

 http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm

 
 IIRC, D has been ahead of Delphi for quite some time now?
 

I think your right.  My mistake.

Manfred Nowak <svv1999 hotmail.com> writes:

janderson wrote

 Now 13 (percentage up slightly)

IMO the community can push D all the way up to 1 by simply providing a 
html-interface to this newsgroups on several servers, and have google 
display their advertisings on the pages of that html-interfaces.

-manfred

janderson <askme me.com> writes:

Manfred Nowak wrote:
 janderson wrote
 
 Now 13 (percentage up slightly)

 
 IMO the community can push D all the way up to 1 by simply providing a 
 html-interface to this newsgroups on several servers, and have google 
 display their advertisings on the pages of that html-interfaces.
 
 -manfred

You are probably right however that it itself may increase the 
popularity of D.

renoX <renosky free.fr> writes:

Manfred Nowak a écrit :
 janderson wrote
 
 Now 13 (percentage up slightly)

 
 IMO the community can push D all the way up to 1 by simply providing a 
 html-interface to this newsgroups on several servers, and have google 
 display their advertisings on the pages of that html-interfaces.


IMHO doing an action only to increase Tiobe rating is cheating, which is 
ridiculous.

renoX


 
 -manfred

Manfred Nowak <svv1999 hotmail.com> writes:

renoX wrote

 IMHO doing an action only to increase Tiobe rating is cheating,
 which is ridiculous.

Every index based on buzz is vulnerable to spam.

After Google noticed such spam in 2004 and cancelled it out, Tiobe 
reintroduced that spam by including it from MSN and Yahoo. Despite of 
this, Tiobe considers the index as based on "strategic data".

If you cannot falsify that those "strategic data" sets are built up by 
cheating, as you say, then what is the value of that index?

-manfred

janderson <askme me.com> writes:

Manfred Nowak wrote:
 renoX wrote
 
 IMHO doing an action only to increase Tiobe rating is cheating,
 which is ridiculous.

 
 Every index based on buzz is vulnerable to spam.
 
 After Google noticed such spam in 2004 and cancelled it out, Tiobe 
 reintroduced that spam by including it from MSN and Yahoo. Despite of 
 this, Tiobe considers the index as based on "strategic data".
 
 If you cannot falsify that those "strategic data" sets are built up by 
 cheating, as you say, then what is the value of that index?
 
 -manfred

If you look at the list, although subject to error, the languages you 
would expect are at the top.  At the very least its a fuzzy indication 
of where some languages are compared to others at least in terms of 
search ability/presents on the web.

I have a feeling that D should be much lower on the list as many of the 
other languages have been used in more commercial applications then D.

-Joel

Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> writes:

janderson wrote:
 I have a feeling that D should be much lower on the list as many of the 
 other languages have been used in more commercial applications then D.

The Tiobe index is also deliberately skewed towards the last 12 months. 
So it will tend to measure what the current 'buzz' is on a language, not 
how heavily used it was 10 years ago.

Manfred Nowak <svv1999 hotmail.com> writes:

janderson wrote

 its a fuzzy indication

At the very most its a fuzzy indication, but it isn't even presented as 
such.

Would you give a dime for an index of 50 different web servers, where 
someone pinged them once a month, declares those ping values to be 
"strategic data" and presents some diagrams showing how the ping values 
are changing over the years?

Obviously one can produce a similar argument, that such an index must 
be at least (put eupehemistic words here), because as expected those 
servers located more closely have indeed a better index than those 
located further away.

-manfred    

Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> writes:

janderson wrote:
 Now 13 (percentage up slightly)
 
 http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm
 http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm

If you consider just the compiled languages on that list, that makes D 


--bb