• Walter Bright (3/3) Nov 11 2018 As:
• Andrej Mitrovic (2/5) Nov 11 2018 Congrats to everyone!
• Mike Franklin (8/11) Nov 11 2018 This is a significant milestone. Congratulations, Walter!
• Walter Bright (11/17) Nov 11 2018 tk.c
• Jacob Carlborg (10/23) Nov 12 2018 dmd/root/ctfloat.d depends on the "strtold_dm" function defined in
• rikki cattermole (3/32) Nov 12 2018 That module needs a right rethink for dmd-fe as a library purposes.
• Temtaime (4/21) Nov 13 2018 No, as phobos is dependent on C libraries such as a zlib for
• Joakim (4/34) Nov 13 2018 It's possible to reimplement the subset of libc functions that
• Codifies (5/8) Nov 11 2018 by this, does it mean that D is entirely self hosted ?, ie given
• bauss (2/5) Nov 12 2018 This makes me happy.
• Jacob Carlborg (4/7) Nov 12 2018 BTW, this is great news :)

Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:

As:

https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/8946

removes the header files for the old C++ code!

Andrej Mitrovic <andrej.mitrovich gmail.com> writes:

On Sunday, 11 November 2018 at 23:40:16 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 As:

 https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/8946

 removes the header files for the old C++ code!

Congrats to everyone!

Mike Franklin <slavo5150 yahoo.com> writes:

On Sunday, 11 November 2018 at 23:40:16 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 As:

 https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/8946

 removes the header files for the old C++ code!

This is a significant milestone.  Congratulations, Walter!

There are still a few .c files in 
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/tree/master/src/dmd/backend, so 
what's the significance of those?

Will there ever be a day when we no longer need a C/C++ compiler 
to build DMD?  Has that day arrived?

Mike

Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:

On 11/11/2018 3:58 PM, Mike Franklin wrote:
 This is a significant milestone.  Congratulations, Walter!

Many people helped out with this, too.

 There are still a few .c files in 
 https://github.com/dlang/dmd/tree/master/src/dmd/backend, so what's the 
 significance of those?

tk.c
fp.c
os.c
strtold.c
tk/mem.c

These could be converted too, but are independent from everything else and 
hardly seem worth the bother. Sebastian has a PR for os.cd.


 Will there ever be a day when we no longer need a C/C++ compiler to build DMD?

Sure.


 Has that day arrived?

Pragmatically, yes. Technically, no.

Jacob Carlborg <doob me.com> writes:

On 2018-11-12 03:37, Walter Bright wrote:
 On 11/11/2018 3:58 PM, Mike Franklin wrote:
 This is a significant milestone.  Congratulations, Walter!

 Many people helped out with this, too.

 There are still a few .c files in
 https://github.com/dlang/dmd/tree/master/src/dmd/backend, so what's
 the significance of those?

 tk.c
 fp.c
 os.c
 strtold.c
 tk/mem.c

 These could be converted too, but are independent from everything else
 and hardly seem worth the bother. Sebastian has a PR for os.cd.

dmd/root/ctfloat.d depends on the "strtold_dm" function defined in 
strtold.c [2] when compiling using Visual Studio. That means that the 
Dub package cannot be compile using Visual Studio without this file.

[1] 
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/blob/4df5d6a6e8775754148939beb6de827fe4b0b9ab/src/dmd/root/ctfloat.d#L167-L170

[2] 
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/blob/4df5d6a6e8775754148939beb6de827fe4b0b9ab/src/dmd/backend/strtold.c#L138

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg

rikki cattermole <rikki cattermole.co.nz> writes:

On 13/11/2018 12:12 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
 On 2018-11-12 03:37, Walter Bright wrote:
 On 11/11/2018 3:58 PM, Mike Franklin wrote:
 This is a significant milestone.  Congratulations, Walter!

 Many people helped out with this, too.

 There are still a few .c files in
 https://github.com/dlang/dmd/tree/master/src/dmd/backend, so what's
 the significance of those?

 tk.c
 fp.c
 os.c
 strtold.c
 tk/mem.c

 These could be converted too, but are independent from everything else
 and hardly seem worth the bother. Sebastian has a PR for os.cd.

 
 dmd/root/ctfloat.d depends on the "strtold_dm" function defined in 
 strtold.c [2] when compiling using Visual Studio. That means that the 
 Dub package cannot be compile using Visual Studio without this file.
 
 [1] 
 https://github.com/dlang/dmd/blob/4df5d6a6e8775754148939beb6de827fe4b0b9ab/src/dmd/root
ctfloat.d#L167-L170 
 
 
 [2] 
 https://github.com/dlang/dmd/blob/4df5d6a6e8775754148939beb6de827fe4b0b9ab/src/dmd/ba
kend/strtold.c#L138 

That module needs a right rethink for dmd-fe as a library purposes.

https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18810

Temtaime <temtaime gmail.com> writes:

On Monday, 12 November 2018 at 02:37:54 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 On 11/11/2018 3:58 PM, Mike Franklin wrote:
 This is a significant milestone.  Congratulations, Walter!

 Many people helped out with this, too.

 There are still a few .c files in 
 https://github.com/dlang/dmd/tree/master/src/dmd/backend, so 
 what's the significance of those?

 tk.c
 fp.c
 os.c
 strtold.c
 tk/mem.c

 These could be converted too, but are independent from 
 everything else and hardly seem worth the bother. Sebastian has 
 a PR for os.cd.


 Will there ever be a day when we no longer need a C/C++ 
 compiler to build DMD?

 Sure.

No, as phobos is dependent on C libraries such as a zlib for 
example.
Also D is dependent on libc.

Joakim <dlang joakim.fea.st> writes:

On Tuesday, 13 November 2018 at 20:42:00 UTC, Temtaime wrote:
 On Monday, 12 November 2018 at 02:37:54 UTC, Walter Bright 
 wrote:
 On 11/11/2018 3:58 PM, Mike Franklin wrote:
 This is a significant milestone.  Congratulations, Walter!

 Many people helped out with this, too.

 There are still a few .c files in 
 https://github.com/dlang/dmd/tree/master/src/dmd/backend, so 
 what's the significance of those?

 tk.c
 fp.c
 os.c
 strtold.c
 tk/mem.c

 These could be converted too, but are independent from 
 everything else and hardly seem worth the bother. Sebastian 
 has a PR for os.cd.


 Will there ever be a day when we no longer need a C/C++ 
 compiler to build DMD?

 Sure.

 No, as phobos is dependent on C libraries such as a zlib for 
 example.

DMD doesn't use Phobos.

 Also D is dependent on libc.

It's possible to reimplement the subset of libc functions that 
DMD depends on in D.

Codifies <a b.com> writes:

On Sunday, 11 November 2018 at 23:40:16 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 As:

 https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/8946

 removes the header files for the old C++ code!

by this, does it mean that D is entirely self hosted ?, ie given 
some slightly out of date version of dmd is that all thats needed 
to build dmd in its entirety ?

If so congrats on version one ! :p

bauss <jj_1337 live.dk> writes:

On Sunday, 11 November 2018 at 23:40:16 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 As:

 https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/8946

 removes the header files for the old C++ code!

This makes me happy.

Jacob Carlborg <doob me.com> writes:

On 2018-11-12 00:40, Walter Bright wrote:
 As:

 https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/8946

 removes the header files for the old C++ code!

BTW, this is great news :)

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg