• BCS (1/1) Jan 28 2009 http://dobbscodetalk.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1015&...
• Walter Bright (3/4) Jan 28 2009 On reddit:
• John Reimer (3/6) Jan 28 2009 This is extremely good news. I may (finally) have to get a mac. :)
• Michel Fortin (7/13) Jan 29 2009 I wonder what's that way of doing it.
• Jacob Carlborg (3/17) Jan 29 2009 I think that mac can do this using function calls, but I can't find the
• Jacob Carlborg (3/21) Jan 29 2009 Perhaps this:
• Sean Kelly (5/23) Jan 29 2009 There are pthread calls for TLS which are implemented for OSX. But
• Walter Bright (5/8) Jan 29 2009 It won't be as efficient. But that really doesn't matter at this point -...
• Fawzi Mohamed (14/24) Jan 31 2009 I don't agree so much with this, TLS can be useful is some occasions
• Walter Bright (4/6) Jan 31 2009 If decent support for TLS is not there, then programmers will use
• Walter Bright (2/7) Jan 29 2009 I plan on doing a brief writeup on it in a future blog if it works.
• Jacob Carlborg (1/1) Jan 29 2009 I would have been really nice to have that ppc support that got lost now...
• Benji Smith (6/8) Feb 03 2009 Very exciting! Thanks, Walter!
• Walter Bright (2/3) Feb 03 2009 Both.
• Benji Smith (3/7) Feb 04 2009 Sweet. You da man.

BCS <none anon.com> writes:

http://dobbscodetalk.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1015&Itemid=

Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> writes:

BCS wrote:
 http://dobbscodetalk.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=
iew&id=1015&Itemid= 

On reddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/d_language/comments/7t0tm/porting_d_to_the_mac/

John Reimer <terminal.node gmail.com> writes:

Hello BCS,

 http://dobbscodetalk.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=101
 5&Itemid=
 


This is extremely good news.  I may (finally) have to get a mac. :)


-JJR

Michel Fortin <michel.fortin michelf.com> writes:

On 2009-01-28 13:02:22 -0500, BCS <none anon.com> said:

 
 http://dobbscodetalk.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1015&Itemid=

Interesting. From the last comment from Walter at the bottom:

 But the Mach-O has no such special sections.
 
 I think I've found a way to do it, but it would be better if the mac 
 was fixed to handle that like other systems do.

I wonder what's that way of doing it.

-- 
Michel Fortin
michel.fortin michelf.com
http://michelf.com/

Jacob Carlborg <doobnet gmail.com> writes:

Michel Fortin wrote:
 On 2009-01-28 13:02:22 -0500, BCS <none anon.com> said:
 
 http://dobbscodetalk.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=
iew&id=1015&Itemid= 

 
 Interesting. From the last comment from Walter at the bottom:
 
 But the Mach-O has no such special sections.

 I think I've found a way to do it, but it would be better if the mac 
 was fixed to handle that like other systems do.

 
 I wonder what's that way of doing it.

I think that mac can do this using function calls, but I can't find the 
man page right now.

Jacob Carlborg <doobnet gmail.com> writes:

Jacob Carlborg wrote:
 Michel Fortin wrote:
 On 2009-01-28 13:02:22 -0500, BCS <none anon.com> said:

 http://dobbscodetalk.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=
iew&id=1015&Itemid= 

 Interesting. From the last comment from Walter at the bottom:

 But the Mach-O has no such special sections.

 I think I've found a way to do it, but it would be better if the mac 
 was fixed to handle that like other systems do.

 I wonder what's that way of doing it.

 
 I think that mac can do this using function calls, but I can't find the 
 man page right now.

Perhaps this: 
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man3/Thread.3pm.html

Sean Kelly <sean invisibleduck.org> writes:

Jacob Carlborg wrote:
 Michel Fortin wrote:
 On 2009-01-28 13:02:22 -0500, BCS <none anon.com> said:

 http://dobbscodetalk.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=
iew&id=1015&Itemid= 

 Interesting. From the last comment from Walter at the bottom:

 But the Mach-O has no such special sections.

 I think I've found a way to do it, but it would be better if the mac 
 was fixed to handle that like other systems do.

 I wonder what's that way of doing it.

 
 I think that mac can do this using function calls, but I can't find the 
 man page right now.

There are pthread calls for TLS which are implemented for OSX.  But 
however it works (I haven't looked into it), it likely isn't as 
efficient or easy to deal with as the __thread storage class on other OSes.


Sean

Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> writes:

Sean Kelly wrote:
 There are pthread calls for TLS which are implemented for OSX.  But 
 however it works (I haven't looked into it), it likely isn't as 
 efficient or easy to deal with as the __thread storage class on other OSes.

It won't be as efficient. But that really doesn't matter at this point - 
accessing global variables in a tight loop is a bad idea anyway. TLS 
just has to work. It can be optimized later as OSX improves (which it 
must, as TLS is going to be a bigger and bigger deal as time goes on).

Fawzi Mohamed <fmohamed mac.com> writes:

On 2009-01-29 23:19:25 +0100, Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> said:

 Sean Kelly wrote:
 There are pthread calls for TLS which are implemented for OSX.  But 
 however it works (I haven't looked into it), it likely isn't as 
 efficient or easy to deal with as the __thread storage class on other 
 OSes.

 
 It won't be as efficient. But that really doesn't matter at this point 
 - accessing global variables in a tight loop is a bad idea anyway. TLS 
 just has to work. It can be optimized later as OSX improves (which it 
 must, as TLS is going to be a bigger and bigger deal as time goes on).

I don't agree so much with this, TLS can be useful is some occasions 
but should be used very sparingly in my opinion, it should be used 
mostly for the infrastructure, not by the end user.

TSL is an evolution of global variables and still has many of their 
drawbacks, if possible one should pass the variables explicitly, often 
with some care, and maybe grouping them into structure it turns out to 
be easier than one thinks, and the effort costs little typing.

There are things where TSL can be very useful, and I use it for example 
to make the scheduling interface nicer, but I think that with good 
design those cases are few...

Encouraging wide use of TSL is bad in my opinion (not that you are 
doing it, but one might interpret it like that).

Fawzi

Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> writes:

Fawzi Mohamed wrote:
 Encouraging wide use of TSL is bad in my opinion (not that you are doing 
 it, but one might interpret it like that).

If decent support for TLS is not there, then programmers will use 
regular global data instead, which comes with a whole raft of threading 
problems.

Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> writes:

Michel Fortin wrote:
 I think I've found a way to do it, but it would be better if the mac 
 was fixed to handle that like other systems do.

 
 I wonder what's that way of doing it.
 

I plan on doing a brief writeup on it in a future blog if it works.

Jacob Carlborg <doob me.com> writes:

I would have been really nice to have that ppc support that got lost now.

Benji Smith <dlanguage benjismith.net> writes:

BCS wrote:
 
 http://dobbscodetalk.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=
iew&id=1015&Itemid= 

Very exciting! Thanks, Walter!

Do you know whether OSX releases will be produced for D1, or just D2?

I've had my fingers crossed that you were working on this, and I'm very 
happy to see that the progress is so swift :o)

--benji

Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> writes:

Benji Smith wrote:
 Do you know whether OSX releases will be produced for D1, or just D2?

Both.

Benji Smith <dlanguage benjismith.net> writes:

Walter Bright wrote:
 Benji Smith wrote:
 Do you know whether OSX releases will be produced for D1, or just D2?

 
 Both.

Sweet. You da man.

--b