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reply Chris Piker <chris hoopjump.com> writes:
Hi DlangScience

I've setup D prototypes for the CDF (Common Data Format) file 
reading/writing library.  Since it's mostly just basic D 
prototypes for a C library the module's name is deimos.cdf and 
can be found here: https://github.com/das-developers/deimos.cdf

I'm attempting to get the repository hosted within a github 
organization run by the Goddard Space Physics Data facility.  If 
the SPDF declines to host the repo, could it find a home in the 
DlangScience organization?  I'd be happy to sign up to maintain 
it.  I didn't know that your group existed when I wrote the 
module or would have contacted you before work began.

Instead of responding to this message, please use the Discussion 
section for deimos.cdf, at least temporarily anyway.

Thanks,

(cross posted from https://gitter.im/DlangScience/public since 
that site looks unused)
Mar 26 2021
next sibling parent reply James Blachly <james.blachly gmail.com> writes:
On 3/26/21 5:55 PM, Chris Piker wrote:

 Hi DlangScience
 
 I've setup D prototypes for the CDF (Common Data Format) file 
 reading/writing library.  Since it's mostly just basic D prototypes for 
 a C library the module's name is deimos.cdf and can be found here: 
 https://github.com/das-developers/deimos.cdf
 
 I'm attempting to get the repository hosted within a github organization 
 run by the Goddard Space Physics Data facility.  If the SPDF declines to 
 host the repo, could it find a home in the DlangScience organization?  
 I'd be happy to sign up to maintain it.  I didn't know that your group 
 existed when I wrote the module or would have contacted you before work 
 began.
 
 Instead of responding to this message, please use the Discussion section 
 for deimos.cdf, at least temporarily anyway.
 
 Thanks,
 
 (cross posted from https://gitter.im/DlangScience/public since that site 
 looks unused)
 


Good luck!

Interestingly Github flags this repo as a "C" repo , with the balance of 
code tilting slightly (>51%) in favor of C (perhaps headers), compared 

repos on Github?
Mar 27 2021
parent reply russhy <russhy gmail.com> writes:
 Interestingly Github flags this repo as a "C" repo , with the 
 balance of code tilting slightly (>51%) in favor of C (perhaps 
 headers), compared to D. I wonder to what degree this affects 



this can be "fixed" using a .gitattribute file with the following 
content:

```
*.h linguist-detectable=false
*.c linguist-detectable=false
```

There must be an easier way, if anyone know a cleaner way for 
doing that, please let me know!
Mar 28 2021
parent Chris Piker <chris hoopjump.com> writes:
On Sunday, 28 March 2021 at 22:25:03 UTC, russhy wrote:

 Interestingly Github flags this repo as a "C" repo , with the 
 balance of code tilting slightly (>51%) in favor of C (perhaps 
 headers), compared to D. I wonder to what degree this affects 



 this can be "fixed" using a .gitattribute file with the 
 following content:

 ```
 *.h linguist-detectable=false
 *.c linguist-detectable=false
 ```

 There must be an easier way, if anyone know a cleaner way for 
 doing that, please let me know!


Russy, thanks for the tip.  I've added a .gitattributes file.  
Seems appropriate here since the .h files are just included for 
documentation and reproducibility.
Mar 28 2021
prev sibling parent reply mw <mingwu gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 26 March 2021 at 21:55:18 UTC, Chris Piker wrote:

 Hi DlangScience

 I've setup D prototypes for the CDF (Common Data Format) file 
 reading/writing library.  Since it's mostly just basic D 
 prototypes for a C library the module's name is deimos.cdf and 
 can be found here: https://github.com/das-developers/deimos.cdf

 I'm attempting to get the repository hosted within a github 
 organization run by the Goddard Space Physics Data facility.  
 If the SPDF declines to host the repo, could it find a home in 
 the DlangScience organization?  I'd be happy to sign up to 
 maintain it.  I didn't know that your group existed when I 
 wrote the module or would have contacted you before work began.

 Instead of responding to this message, please use the 
 Discussion section for deimos.cdf, at least temporarily anyway.

 Thanks,

 (cross posted from https://gitter.im/DlangScience/public since 
 that site looks unused)


Let's discuss it here:

https://github.com/orgs/dlang-community/teams/science/discussions

 wilzbach is the maintainer of the group.
Mar 27 2021
parent reply Chris Piker <chris hoopjump.com> writes:
On Sunday, 28 March 2021 at 04:06:57 UTC, mw wrote:

 On Friday, 26 March 2021 at 21:55:18 UTC, Chris Piker wrote:

 Let's discuss it here:

 https://github.com/orgs/dlang-community/teams/science/discussions

  wilzbach is the maintainer of the group.


Sounds good to me, but the link above returns a 404, could be a 
temporary error.  Maybe I'm supposed to join a team first?
Mar 28 2021
parent reply rikki cattermole <rikki cattermole.co.nz> writes:
On 29/03/2021 12:16 PM, Chris Piker wrote:

 On Sunday, 28 March 2021 at 04:06:57 UTC, mw wrote:

 On Friday, 26 March 2021 at 21:55:18 UTC, Chris Piker wrote:

 Let's discuss it here:

 https://github.com/orgs/dlang-community/teams/science/discussions

  wilzbach is the maintainer of the group.


 
 Sounds good to me, but the link above returns a 404, could be a 
 temporary error.  Maybe I'm supposed to join a team first?


"A visible team can be seen and  mentioned by every member of this 
organization."
Mar 28 2021
next sibling parent Chris Piker <chris hoopjump.com> writes:
On Monday, 29 March 2021 at 00:58:46 UTC, rikki cattermole wrote:

 On 29/03/2021 12:16 PM, Chris Piker wrote:

 On Sunday, 28 March 2021 at 04:06:57 UTC, mw wrote:

 On Friday, 26 March 2021 at 21:55:18 UTC, Chris Piker wrote:

 Let's discuss it here:

 https://github.com/orgs/dlang-community/teams/science/discussions

  wilzbach is the maintainer of the group.


 
 Sounds good to me, but the link above returns a 404, could be 
 a temporary error.  Maybe I'm supposed to join a team first?


 "A visible team can be seen and  mentioned by every member of 
 this organization."


That explains the 404.  I'm not a member of the D community hub 
and am not yet competent enough in the language to belong to such 
an organization.
Mar 28 2021
prev sibling parent reply James Blachly <james.blachly gmail.com> writes:
On 3/28/21 8:58 PM, rikki cattermole wrote:

 On 29/03/2021 12:16 PM, Chris Piker wrote:

 On Sunday, 28 March 2021 at 04:06:57 UTC, mw wrote:

 On Friday, 26 March 2021 at 21:55:18 UTC, Chris Piker wrote:

 Let's discuss it here:

 https://github.com/orgs/dlang-community/teams/science/discussions

  wilzbach is the maintainer of the group.


 Sounds good to me, but the link above returns a 404, could be a 
 temporary error.  Maybe I'm supposed to join a team first?


 
 "A visible team can be seen and  mentioned by every member of this 
 organization."


Does this [hiding to non org members] really help D's visibility and 
adoption? What sorts of things are discussed that do not benefit from 
openness? For example, I am a bona fide scientist using Dlang, but had 
no idea dlang-science was even an active group (I was aware of the org, 
and repos, but assumed it was not very active)
Mar 29 2021
next sibling parent reply rikki cattermole <rikki cattermole.co.nz> writes:
On 30/03/2021 3:55 PM, James Blachly wrote:

 Does this [hiding to non org members] really help D's visibility and 
 adoption? What sorts of things are discussed that do not benefit from 
 openness? For example, I am a bona fide scientist using Dlang, but had 
 no idea dlang-science was even an active group (I was aware of the org, 
 and repos, but assumed it was not very active)


As far as I know its not actively used. Both teams and the discussion 
feature Github offers them.

And yes I did try to make it public, that wasn't an option.
Mar 29 2021
parent Chris Piker <chris hoopjump.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 30 March 2021 at 04:34:48 UTC, rikki cattermole wrote:

 As far as I know its not actively used. Both teams and the 
 discussion feature Github offers them.

 And yes I did try to make it public, that wasn't an option.


Hi Rikki

Thank you for trying to make it public, it's appreciated.

--
Chris
Mar 30 2021
prev sibling parent reply Chris Piker <chris hoopjump.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 30 March 2021 at 02:55:27 UTC, James Blachly wrote:

 "A visible team can be seen and  mentioned by every member of 
 this organization."


 Does this [hiding to non org members] really help D's 
 visibility and adoption? What sorts of things are discussed 
 that do not benefit from openness? For example, I am a bona 
 fide scientist using Dlang, but had no idea dlang-science was 
 even an active group (I was aware of the org, and repos, but 
 assumed it was not very active)


Hi James

I'll second your sentiment.  I'm a mission support programmer on 
various space missions and would like to see what's discussed in 
dlang-science.  It appears that D has a lot to offer programmers 
in my field.  Like everyone else our data volumes are insane (ex: 
2.4 TB for a 6 hour ground radio astronomy observation).  D's 
performance combined with it's garbage collector are valuable in 
my line of work since everyone's python/matlab/idl code is 
grinding to a relative halt.

I could switch to Java and JNI since it would mesh well with 
other tools we support, but for now I'm trying out D, and would 
like to stay and gain competence in this elegant language.

Other than rudely posting an issue   
https://github.com/DlangScience/NetCDF-D, does anyone know the 
right way to start a conversation with DlangScience?  I'm trying 
to blend in and learn this community's norms.

--
Chris
Mar 30 2021
parent reply mw <mingwu gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 30 March 2021 at 07:51:17 UTC, Chris Piker wrote:

 Other than rudely posting an issue   
 https://github.com/DlangScience/NetCDF-D, does anyone know the 
 right way to start a conversation with DlangScience?  I'm 
 trying to blend in and learn this community's norms.


try also:

https://github.com/dlang-community/discussions/issues

But there is not much going on in DlangScience, right now there 
is no real package maintained. The dlang-community intention is 
to maintain *orphaned* but useful packages.

E.g. one of the most popular package libmir is not in 
DlangScience at all:

https://github.com/libmir/mir-algorithm
https://github.com/libmir


So https://code.dlang.org/ is the main place for packages, 
science or not.
Mar 30 2021
parent reply Chris Piker <chris hoopjump.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 30 March 2021 at 17:40:15 UTC, mw wrote:

 On Tuesday, 30 March 2021 at 07:51:17 UTC, Chris Piker wrote:
 https://github.com/dlang-community/discussions/issues

 But there is not much going on in DlangScience, right now there 
 is no real package maintained. The dlang-community intention is 
 to maintain *orphaned* but useful packages.


Good to know you're out there providing continuity.

Since I'm not orphaning packages soon and since physical science 
packages have a relatively small user base, it sounds like 
interaction with the dlang-community group is not recommended at 
this time.


 E.g. one of the most popular package libmir is not in 
 DlangScience at all:

 https://github.com/libmir/mir-algorithm
 https://github.com/libmir


Good point. Though as a D core library I wouldn't expect it find 
it among a run-of-the-mill science repository collection.


 So https://code.dlang.org/ is the main place for packages, 
 science or not.


Okay, got it. Repositories are scattered, and that's okay, 
because packages are centralized.
Mar 30 2021
parent reply rikki cattermole <rikki cattermole.co.nz> writes:
On 31/03/2021 7:28 AM, Chris Piker wrote:

 Since I'm not orphaning packages soon and since physical science 
 packages have a relatively small user base, it sounds like interaction 
 with the dlang-community group is not recommended at this time.


It is neither not recommended, nor recommended.

Get something solid that people want to use, then it doesn't matter 
about how many people are available to maintain it.

Dlang-Community exists primarily as a backup in case of the original 
owners disappear (doesn't matter why, could just by life and only be 
gone for a year or two).

See: https://github.com/dlang-community/discussions
Mar 30 2021
parent Chris Piker <chris hoopjump.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 31 March 2021 at 03:24:37 UTC, rikki cattermole 
wrote:

 On 31/03/2021 7:28 AM, Chris Piker wrote:
 Get something solid that people want to use, then it doesn't 
 matter about how many people are available to maintain it.


This is good advice.  I'm probably too used to organizations and 
not reputations.  Will worry about the code first.

By the way for anyone who has been following along, the 
repository itself has been moved to my personal account.  I see 
no reason to move it again soon.

https://github.com/cpiker/deimos.cdf
Apr 01 2021