digitalmars.D - Bug fix week
- Andrei Alexandrescu (8/8) May 23 2010 We've had a tremendous infusion of talent and energy in Phobos, and
- Don (6/18) May 24 2010 IMHO, one of the most important bugs to fix is actually a spec bug:
- Andrei Alexandrescu (4/22) May 24 2010 I agree that's bad, but somewhat ironically it's not as bad for TDPL's
- Jacob Carlborg (15/40) May 25 2010 I would say that's even worse, let me explain. In D if you run into a
- dennis luehring (3/4) May 24 2010 why don't remove this feature? it isn't syntactic sugar just an
- Andrei Alexandrescu (3/7) May 24 2010 FWIW I swear by it.
- Adam Ruppe (5/6) May 24 2010 Me too. I was opposed to it in the beginning as being unnecessary, but
- bearophile (4/6) May 24 2010 This is true for me too.
- Pelle (3/9) May 24 2010 map!foo(data);
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Stewart Gordon
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May 27 2010
- Don (6/14) May 27 2010 Because it's a feature that is used in almost every non-trivial D2
- Masahiro Nakagawa (5/13) May 26 2010 I think we need improvement of DDoc.
- Brad Roberts (7/26) May 26 2010 Fixes are generated at the rate Walter plus several other volunteers
- Masahiro Nakagawa (5/35) May 26 2010 Yes. I would like to fix dmd bugs.
- Bruno Medeiros (4/23) May 28 2010 I very much agree with this.
- SHOO (13/35) May 28 2010 I agree too.
We've had a tremendous infusion of talent and energy in Phobos, and lately work has picked up in unprecedented ways, both in terms of new features and bug fixes. I can't say how happy I am about that! At the end of this starting week, on Friday May 28, TDPL will be out on trucks to bookstores. Let's make this week a bug fixing week for both dmd and Phobos, and issue a release on Monday. We're going public! Andrei
May 23 2010
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:We've had a tremendous infusion of talent and energy in Phobos, and lately work has picked up in unprecedented ways, both in terms of new features and bug fixes. I can't say how happy I am about that! At the end of this starting week, on Friday May 28, TDPL will be out on trucks to bookstores. Let's make this week a bug fixing week for both dmd and Phobos, and issue a release on Monday. We're going public! AndreiIMHO, one of the most important bugs to fix is actually a spec bug: 4056 Template instantiation with bare parameter not documented The foo!int syntax as a shortcut for foo!(int) isn't documented anywhere in the spec!! This is an embarrassing omission and should be fixed ASAP. Anyone could submit a patch with suggested wording for this one.
May 24 2010
On 05/24/2010 09:08 AM, Don wrote:Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:I agree that's bad, but somewhat ironically it's not as bad for TDPL's timeline. The syntax _is_ documented in TDPL. AndreiWe've had a tremendous infusion of talent and energy in Phobos, and lately work has picked up in unprecedented ways, both in terms of new features and bug fixes. I can't say how happy I am about that! At the end of this starting week, on Friday May 28, TDPL will be out on trucks to bookstores. Let's make this week a bug fixing week for both dmd and Phobos, and issue a release on Monday. We're going public! AndreiIMHO, one of the most important bugs to fix is actually a spec bug: 4056 Template instantiation with bare parameter not documented The foo!int syntax as a shortcut for foo!(int) isn't documented anywhere in the spec!! This is an embarrassing omission and should be fixed ASAP. Anyone could submit a patch with suggested wording for this one.
May 24 2010
Jacob Carlborg <doob me.com> On 2010-05-24 16.17, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:On 05/24/2010 09:08 AM, Don wrote:I would say that's even worse, let me explain. In D if you run into a problem/bug with the compiler you never now where the problem is. * Is it the spec that is correct and the compiler doesn't follow the spec? * Is it the spec that is incorrect and the compiler behaves correctly? * Perhaps the spec is correct and the compiler follows the spec but a feature is not implemented correctly? * Perhaps the spec is correct but the compiler doesn't implement the feature yet. Now when TDPL comes into the picture there is yet another layer to all this. Now you can have the behavior when TDPL is correct but the compiler and the spec is incorrect or any other combination of the now three parties. -- /Jacob CarlborgAndrei Alexandrescu wrote:I agree that's bad, but somewhat ironically it's not as bad for TDPL's timeline. The syntax _is_ documented in TDPL. AndreiWe've had a tremendous infusion of talent and energy in Phobos, and lately work has picked up in unprecedented ways, both in terms of new features and bug fixes. I can't say how happy I am about that! At the end of this starting week, on Friday May 28, TDPL will be out on trucks to bookstores. Let's make this week a bug fixing week for both dmd and Phobos, and issue a release on Monday. We're going public! AndreiIMHO, one of the most important bugs to fix is actually a spec bug: 4056 Template instantiation with bare parameter not documented The foo!int syntax as a shortcut for foo!(int) isn't documented anywhere in the spec!! This is an embarrassing omission and should be fixed ASAP. Anyone could submit a patch with suggested wording for this one.
May 25 2010
Am 24.05.2010 16:08, schrieb Don:4056 Template instantiation with bare parameter not documentedwhy don't remove this feature? it isn't syntactic sugar just an "alternative" syntax (how many other alternative syntaxes needed?)
May 24 2010
On 05/24/2010 11:53 AM, dennis luehring wrote:Am 24.05.2010 16:08, schrieb Don: > 4056 Template instantiation with bare parameter not documented why don't remove this feature? it isn't syntactic sugar just an "alternative" syntax (how many other alternative syntaxes needed?)FWIW I swear by it. Andrei
May 24 2010
On 5/24/10, Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:FWIW I swear by it.Me too. I was opposed to it in the beginning as being unnecessary, but it is really nice now that I use it. auto a = to!int(whatever); Just flows really nicely. to!(int)(whatever) isn't quite the same.
May 24 2010
Adam Ruppe:I was opposed to it in the beginning as being unnecessary, but it is really nice now that I use it.This is true for me too. Bye, bearophile
May 24 2010
On 05/24/2010 07:04 PM, Adam Ruppe wrote:On 5/24/10, Andrei Alexandrescu<SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:map!foo(data); So awesome.FWIW I swear by it.Me too. I was opposed to it in the beginning as being unnecessary, but it is really nice now that I use it. auto a = to!int(whatever); Just flows really nicely. to!(int)(whatever) isn't quite the same.
May 24 2010
Don wrote: <snip>IMHO, one of the most important bugs to fix is actually a spec bug: 4056 Template instantiation with bare parameter not documented<snip> Why single out that one? This is the one that needs fixing most of all: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=677 Stewart.
May 27 2010
Stewart Gordon wrote:Don wrote: <snip>Because it's a feature that is used in almost every non-trivial D2 program, and the spec gives no hint that it even exists. Without it, you can't even make sense of many of the Phobos docs. It's an absolute disaster for anyone taking a first look at the language -- something which we expect to happen frequently in the next few weeks.IMHO, one of the most important bugs to fix is actually a spec bug: 4056 Template instantiation with bare parameter not documented<snip> Why single out that one?
May 27 2010
On Sun, 23 May 2010 22:50:14 +0900, Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:We've had a tremendous infusion of talent and energy in Phobos, and lately work has picked up in unprecedented ways, both in terms of new features and bug fixes. I can't say how happy I am about that! At the end of this starting week, on Friday May 28, TDPL will be out on trucks to bookstores. Let's make this week a bug fixing week for both dmd and Phobos, and issue a release on Monday. We're going public! AndreiI think we need improvement of DDoc. Current DDoc doesn't keep up with D Spec(e.g. ignore attribute, pure, etc...).
May 26 2010
On Thu, 27 May 2010, Masahiro Nakagawa wrote:On Sun, 23 May 2010 22:50:14 +0900, Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:Fixes are generated at the rate Walter plus several other volunteers generate them. Care to add yourself to that set of volunteers? The source is fully available.. Bugzilla has a lot of issues to choose your favorite(s) from... Later, BradWe've had a tremendous infusion of talent and energy in Phobos, and lately work has picked up in unprecedented ways, both in terms of new features and bug fixes. I can't say how happy I am about that! At the end of this starting week, on Friday May 28, TDPL will be out on trucks to bookstores. Let's make this week a bug fixing week for both dmd and Phobos, and issue a release on Monday. We're going public! AndreiI think we need improvement of DDoc. Current DDoc doesn't keep up with D Spec(e.g. ignore attribute, pure, etc...).
May 26 2010
On Thu, 27 May 2010 05:47:50 +0900, Brad Roberts <braddr slice-2.puremagic.com> wrote:On Thu, 27 May 2010, Masahiro Nakagawa wrote:Yes. I would like to fix dmd bugs. But, I don't understand dmd internal now :( Give me a more time.On Sun, 23 May 2010 22:50:14 +0900, Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:Fixes are generated at the rate Walter plus several other volunteers generate them. Care to add yourself to that set of volunteers? The source is fully available.. Bugzilla has a lot of issues to choose your favorite(s) from... Later, BradWe've had a tremendous infusion of talent and energy in Phobos, andlatelywork has picked up in unprecedented ways, both in terms of newfeatures andbug fixes. I can't say how happy I am about that! At the end of this starting week, on Friday May 28, TDPL will be outontrucks to bookstores. Let's make this week a bug fixing week for both dmd and Phobos, andissue arelease on Monday. We're going public! AndreiI think we need improvement of DDoc. Current DDoc doesn't keep up with D Spec(e.g. ignore attribute, pure, etc...).
May 26 2010
On 26/05/2010 21:14, Masahiro Nakagawa wrote:On Sun, 23 May 2010 22:50:14 +0900, Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:I very much agree with this. -- Bruno Medeiros - Software EngineerWe've had a tremendous infusion of talent and energy in Phobos, and lately work has picked up in unprecedented ways, both in terms of new features and bug fixes. I can't say how happy I am about that! At the end of this starting week, on Friday May 28, TDPL will be out on trucks to bookstores. Let's make this week a bug fixing week for both dmd and Phobos, and issue a release on Monday. We're going public! AndreiI think we need improvement of DDoc. Current DDoc doesn't keep up with D Spec(e.g. ignore attribute, pure, etc...).
May 28 2010
Bruno Medeiros さんは書きました:On 26/05/2010 21:14, Masahiro Nakagawa wrote:I agree too. DDoc really lacks details of D2's key features. And those features are not used even in Phobos. Therefore, the features that does not understand how to use. In particular, I paid attention to shared, but I could not have any good idea. Please make key features clear, and describe documentation. Otherwise, no one will bring even one problem up. I let Phobos support safe, and I enumerated some problems last time. See also: http://lists.puremagic.com/pipermail/phobos/2010-May/000488.html Following this, shared, Range, pure, nothrow, etc... should be used in fact, too, and should be evaluated.On Sun, 23 May 2010 22:50:14 +0900, Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:I very much agree with this.We've had a tremendous infusion of talent and energy in Phobos, and lately work has picked up in unprecedented ways, both in terms of new features and bug fixes. I can't say how happy I am about that! At the end of this starting week, on Friday May 28, TDPL will be out on trucks to bookstores. Let's make this week a bug fixing week for both dmd and Phobos, and issue a release on Monday. We're going public! AndreiI think we need improvement of DDoc. Current DDoc doesn't keep up with D Spec(e.g. ignore attribute, pure, etc...).
May 28 2010